FL - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 40 counts, classified documents and obstruction of justice, June 2023, Trial May 2024 #2

[AzPistonsGirl]

Trump entered not-guilty today in Florida for the additional charges added to this case. Waived his appearance. If anyone has a direct link to the doc, please share. Otherwise there is this as a source:

https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn
Darren Samuelsohn
@dsamuelsohn
"Trump's signed waiver indicting he planned to plead not guilty & would waive his appearance at today's arraignment just got entered into the public court docket record in South Florida."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689742702508654593

LOL

indicted vs indicated.

words matter.

jmo.

ETA: not aimed at you @Inthedetails - just a typo but we find levity where we can

 

[Inthedetails]

LOL

indicted vs indicated.

words matter.

jmo.

ETA: not aimed at you @Inthedetails - just a typo but we find levity where we can

I had to read it a few times to find the typo, even after you pointed it out!

 

[Stunned]

Wow, he went from serving Diet Coke to serving classified information! He was a good server!

 

[Niner]

So - going to "assume" next hearing for Trump & Nauta are on 8/25/23 - motions hearing on Sec. 3. And DeOliveira arraignment on 8/15/23.

Correct? TIA!

 

[sds71]

How an obscure law about government secrets known as CIPA could shape the Trump documents trial

The Classified Information Procedures Act aims to balance the defendant's constitutional right to a fair trial with the government's interest in protecting its secrets.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Inthedetails]

How an obscure law about government secrets known as CIPA could shape the Trump documents trial

The Classified Information Procedures Act aims to balance the defendant's constitutional right to a fair trial with the government's interest in protecting its secrets.

www.cbsnews.com

Interesting article. The classified status of evidence is going to make this a complicated case.

From the article:
"Congress enacted CIPA in 1980 to limit the practice of 'graymail,' in which defendants threatened to disclose classified information at trial in an effort to get prosecutors to drop charges rather than risk the disclosure of government secrets. The bill was introduced by then-Sen. Joe Biden, who sat on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The statute governs the litigation process between the government and defendant to determine how and if classified information can be used in criminal trials without being 'unnecessarily' disclosed. It lays out a number of steps to help the government and defense narrow the classified information that will be used in court."

Link is the same as the post quoted.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Ivana Trump's grave has become overgrown with grass and is barely visible exclusive Dailymail.com pictures reveal.

The grave of former president Donald Trump's first wife was also cordoned off preventing well-wishers from approaching the area to pay their respects on Friday.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, August 15th:
*Arraignment Hearing (for De Oliveria only) (@ 10am ET) - FL – *Donald John Trump (76/now 77) indicted (6/8/23), charged & arraigned (6/13/23) with 31 counts of willful retention of classified documents, 1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice, 1 count of withholding a document or record, 1 count of corruptly concealing a document or record, 1 count of concealing a document in a federal investigation, 1 count of scheme to conceal & 2 counts of making false statements & representations. Plead not guilty.
Additional indicted & charged (7/27/23) & arraigned (8/4/23) with 1 count of willful retention of defense information & 2 counts of obstruction. Plead not guilty in filing of waiver of non appearance.
Count 1-31: Willful retention of National Defense info, Count 32: Conspiracy to obstruct justice, Count 33: Withholding a document or record, Count 34: Corruptly concealing a document or record, Count 35: Concealing a document in a Federal investigation, Count 36: Scheme to conceal & Count 37: False statements & representations.
Southern District of Florida (Miami) Federal Court
Co-Conspirator *Waltine Nauta () indicted (6/8/23) & charged (6/13/23) on 6 charges stemming from special counsel Jack Smith’s classified documents probe, including conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly concealing a document or record, concealing a document in a federal investigation, scheming to conceal & making false statements to federal agents.

Additional indicted & charged (7/27/23) & arraigned (8/4/23) with 2 counts of obstruction of justice. Plead not guilty.
Count 32: Conspiracy to obstruct justice, Count 33: Withholding a document or record, Count 34: Corruptly concealing a document or record, Count 35: Concealing a document in a Federal investigation, Count 36: Scheme to conceal & Count 38: False statements & representations. Trump: Plead not guilty & released on his own recognizance with no monetary bond (Personal Surety Bond) & no travel restrictions. Nauta: No plea entered & released on his own recognizance with no monetary bond (Person Surety Bond). Southern District of Florida (Miami) Federal Court
Co-Conspirator *Carlos de Oliveira (56) has also been indicted & charged (7/27/23) with with 1 count each of obstruction of justice, concealing records & documents & making false statements to FBI. He is alleged to have asked what could be done to delete the footage. $100K Surety bond-out on bond. Judge ruled that, in the meantime, De Oliveira must hand in his expired U.S. passport within 48 hours.
Mr. Nauta & Mr. de Oliveira conspired to delete footage from security cameras after the Dept. of Justice issued a subpoena asking for surveillance footage of the basement where it said confidential documents were held. In the court documents, Mr. de Oliveira is claimed to have texted another employee who was the director of information technology that "the boss" wanted the server deleted. The documents allege that Mr. de Oliveira later met with the employee in a small IT room, told him their conversation should remain private, then pressured the man into obliging his request after the employee told Mr. de Oliveira that he did not have the authority. Southern District of Florida (Miami) Federal Court Indictment: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf
U.S. District Judge Aileen Mercedes Cannon. In addition to Cannon, Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart's name also appeared on the summons sent to Trump on Thursday, 6/8/23.
Waltine Nauta will be represented by Stanley Woodward. Trump’s lawyers are Todd Blanche & the former Florida solicitor general Chris Kise & maybe Lindsey Halligan.
Jury selection to begin on 5/14/24.
Trial set to begin on 5/20/24. (expected to take 2 weeks).
Case & court info from 4/2/23 thru 8/9/23 reference post #33 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...tice-june-2023-trial-may-2024-2.686530/page-2
8/9/23 Update: For all: Motions hearing on Section 3 on 8/25/23 & status hearing on 9/14/23. Motions hearing on 4/11/24 & 4/17/23. Jury selection begin on 5/14/24 & trial set to begin on 5/20/24. Initial production of classified discovery by 9/7/23. Joint Discovery Status report on 9/14/23. Government's CIPA Section 10 Notice by 9/14/23. Government's CIPA Section 4 Motion (ex parte) by 10/10/23. Any defense challenge to Section 4 (ex Parte) filing by 10/10/23. Deadline for the filing of any Motions in Limine & any motion to introduce evidence under Fed. R. Evid. 404(b) by 3/20/24. Government's CIPA Section 6(c) Motion if necessary on 4/11/24. Hearing on Motions in Limine on 4/17/24. Defense response to CIPA Section 6(c) Motion by 4/25/24. Government's reply to CIPA Section 6(c) Motion by 5/2/24.
8/9/23 Update: Nauta: Opposition to Motion for Protective Order filed by Stanley E. Woodward, Jr. 8/10/23 Update: DeOliveira was NOT arraigned this morning. He does not have local counsel yet. It has been continued to next week Tuesday, 8/15/23 at 10am.

 

[sds71]

@alaynatreene


Carlos de Oliveira, the Mar-a-Lago property manager indicted in the special counsel's classified documents case, pleaded not guilty to multiple obstruction-related offenses De Oliveira asked for a trial by jury

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I wonder how many people who crossed paths with Mr Trump have been affected in a negative way.

Must be in the thousands, I'd say.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Prosecutors raise another possible attorney representation issue in Trump documents case | CNN Politics

Prosecutors from the special counsel’s office have raised ethical questions about the attorney representing one of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago documents criminal case, marking the second time they’ve raised potential issues about lawyers representing multiple people who’ve...

amp.cnn.com

The prosecutors told Judge Aileen Cannon in a filing on Wednesday that John Irving, the lawyer for Mar-a-Lago property manager and Trump co-defendant Carlos De Oliveira, also represents three possible witnesses who could be called to testify against him at trial.

Prosecutors previously raised a similar issue about Trump’s other co-defendant in the case, his personal aide Walt Nauta, being represented by Stanley Woodward – a lawyer who, like Irving, has taken on a handful of clients in the federal investigation who are still backed by Trump. Both lawyers have received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Trump’s Save America PAC for their legal work.

In the filing Wednesday, prosecutors say Irving represents a receptionist, a Trump aide and a Mar-a-Lago maintenance worker, in addition to De Oliveira, who also handled maintenance tasks at the Florida club and is accused of trying to get surveillance footage of the movement of boxes with documents in them deleted and lying to investigators.

 

[Niner]

So.... since I have NO access to the court site - I have as the next Motions hearing re Section 3 for ALL OF THEM on 8/25/23.

OR - did that change since Trump has to surrender in Georgia for his crimes there on 8/25... ??

 

[Inthedetails]

So.... since I have NO access to the court site - I have as the next Motions hearing re Section 3 for ALL OF THEM on 8/25/23.

OR - did that change since Trump has to surrender in Georgia for his crimes there on 8/25... ??

Niner, your work for the next year is cut out for you.

So appreciate that you keep us up-to-date. I really don't know how you manage it!

 

[Niner]

Niner, your work for the next year is cut out for you.

So appreciate that you keep us up-to-date. I really don't know how you manage it!

Yea - going a bit crazy TRYING to keep ALL these dates & hearings separated!!
LOL!

 

[Inthedetails]

Prosecutors raise another possible attorney representation issue in Trump documents case | CNN Politics

Prosecutors from the special counsel’s office have raised ethical questions about the attorney representing one of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago documents criminal case, marking the second time they’ve raised potential issues about lawyers representing multiple people who’ve...

amp.cnn.com

The prosecutors told Judge Aileen Cannon in a filing on Wednesday that John Irving, the lawyer for Mar-a-Lago property manager and Trump co-defendant Carlos De Oliveira, also represents three possible witnesses who could be called to testify against him at trial.

Prosecutors previously raised a similar issue about Trump’s other co-defendant in the case, his personal aide Walt Nauta, being represented by Stanley Woodward – a lawyer who, like Irving, has taken on a handful of clients in the federal investigation who are still backed by Trump. Both lawyers have received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Trump’s Save America PAC for their legal work.

In the filing Wednesday, prosecutors say Irving represents a receptionist, a Trump aide and a Mar-a-Lago maintenance worker, in addition to De Oliveira, who also handled maintenance tasks at the Florida club and is accused of trying to get surveillance footage of the movement of boxes with documents in them deleted and lying to investigators.

So bizarre. They picked one lawyer to represent the defendant and witnesses against the defendant at the very same case?

Come on.

Note to the defendant and the witnesses: stand out of the way of the Trump bus. It's running you over. imo

jmo

 

[sds71]

FL judge in Trump classified docs case will hold a sealed hearing, date/location not announced, to discuss issues re: the handling of classified evidence -- one of the key points of contention has been where Trump can discuss sensitive material w/ lawyers https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-09/trump-argues-for-mar-a-lago-room-to-review-classified-evidence-in-criminal-case

@Niner

Cannon cancels 8/25 hearing.

 

[Inthedetails]

FL judge in Trump classified docs case will hold a sealed hearing, date/location not announced, to discuss issues re: the handling of classified evidence -- one of the key points of contention has been where Trump can discuss sensitive material w/ lawyers https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-09/trump-argues-for-mar-a-lago-room-to-review-classified-evidence-in-criminal-case

@Niner

Cannon cancels 8/25 hearing.

Do we know why? Anything to do with having to be in Georgia? IDK.

jmo

 

[Vern]

Wait, what?

Defense states, "Of note, for years Mr. Nauta was permitted access to classified information..." (bottom of page 3 of doc linked above)

This seems like a concern. ?

jmo

As military members we are subject to the revisiting of our Security Clearances on a regular basis to determine "we still meet the requirements" (ie: crime free etc). As retired persons, we are not subject to those intensive screenings for obtaining/maintaining our clerances any more. Stuff that I could access/review/action at one place of work were not available to me at my new next place of work (still as a uniformed member) as I "no longer had a need to see/know" even while "still a military member'.

 

[Inthedetails]

As military members we are subject to the revisiting of our Security Clearances on a regular basis to determine "we still meet the requirements" (ie: crime free etc). As retired persons, we are not subject to those intensive screenings for obtaining/maintaining our clerances any more. Stuff that I could access/review/action at one place of work were not available to me at the next place of work as I "no longer had a need to see/know" even while "still a military member'.

Interesting info, thanks.

Not sure why he ever would have access to classified documents.

Nauta was a cook with the Navy (so was my uncle so not dissing military cooks).

"Navy records show Nauta enlisted in 2001 and achieved the rank of senior chief culinary specialist in 2021. He was serving in the White House cafeteria when Trump elevated him to serve as his military aide. Nauta retired from the Navy when Trump left the White House, according to the BBC, and joined the former president as his personal aide at Mar-a-Lago."

Navy veteran Walt Nauta charged in Trump classified documents case

Walt Nauta was in the Navy and served as a White House military valet to former President Donald Trump, according to the BBC.

www.navytimes.com

 

[sds71]

kyledcheney

UPDATE: Trump team is now complaining to Judge Cannon that special counsel has proposed jury selection in Washington D.C. on Dec. 11, the same day as one of Cannon's pretrial hearings. They are asking her to take "appropriate action," whatever that means. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23917680/trumpcannon.pdf