Yes, Rob, her bf at the time, was cleared. Her ex was across the street drinking.
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The drinking and nearby ex-boyfriend REALY sounds important to the investigation.
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Thinking of beautiful Jennifer and her family on this Christmas Day.
Am I crazy or is this our first insight to the unveiling of who "Ben" the maintenance manager at the Mosiac who was with Chino really is? Mataele Penisimani? This document is from the website : www.justiceforchandra.com :: View topic - Jennifer Kesse Disappearance Discussion
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There has been some really good discussion and information posted through the years but I haven't followed as closely as the good posters analyzing this information. So I'm glad it's out there (and on my site) but I've already posted my opinions of a lot of the more recent info coming from a former OPD and others unnamed and quite frankly unbelievable, such as a much too convenient photo that matched up with my findings of analyzing the POI images. Still, if there's a decent chance at knowing source of information, all the information is helpful.
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Thanks. You and Nancy are amazing.
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thanks flgrl. What would be even more amazing would be to be provided access to the information that is being withheld so progress on Jennifer's disappearance could be made.
The video of the pool gate where those stills were taken from. Any other people seen would give indications of the contortion of the image and discoloration of clothes. Also the test video of themselves the OPD made.
The make and model of the surveilance cameras and the recording deck used. The settings of the equipment so that the recording could be reenacted and compared.
The list of times and locations of contact with cell towers from Jennifer's phone and the friends work phone (a Nextel), as much as was provided by the phone companies to give an indication for example when contact picked up from a quiet period, and when it stopped, and everything in between.
All of this information has been sought since the beginning. There is a definite lack of interest in technical analysis from those that have had it. And Jennifer's disappearance gets colder because of it.
Amen to that.
This police document talks about her cell usage.
My money would be on you two solving it if y’all got the files.
I recently went by the hog for the first time as well as drove around the area. I’ve noticed there were several people walking when I have looked at google street view over the years, but I was still amazed at all the people walking around close by. This guy wouldn’t have stood out. There was even people riding bikes on Oak Ridge, and I thought of you. Two people were sitting outside in the hog parking lot in baseball chairs. Time was around 1:30 pm when we were there. There was alot of traffic and we sat at a couple of lights a good while. It is nearly 16 years later though. It would be nice to see other images the camera captured plus have the details you’ve always wanted. Especially the footage of the opd since we know what they were wearing. It would give people like you more reference points to look at for sure. I was looking at my security camera at home one day and noticed my sons clothes were white like the poi’s. He was wearing a white tshirt and blue & white plaid fleece pj pants. Up until I read Bo’s handlers comments on the police report, I always thought the poi walked back to the Mosaic. Now, I don’t think he did.
I would also love to know the cell phone data from the opd’s files. It would tell us so much and set in stone important details. I do believe in the ping study that has been referenced for years, and I do believe her phone wasn’t on past 10:40 pm. There’s been too much smoke. I don’t believe the technical info will change. I think she was in trouble before 10:40 pm on January 23rd. It would also be quite telling to look at the call/text records and technical info in the weeks leading up to her disappearance too.
The cell phone data and the video are some of the most important info we have in this case and will always be. It should not be dismissed. I imagine opd has a pretty good grasp on what her cell phone was doing. They were saying early on they thought she went out Monday night.
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It was so nice to finally have it confirmed that she spoke to Rob on her cell that night, the call ended at 9:56 pm, and that was the last time her cell was used. I think it’s possible she was already out when she spoke with Rob.
rd_jfc
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BrittyB, I took a look at that attachment. For me, that's first official info I've seen that she also had a landline, for many years it wasn't clear but later became clearer in posts. But... it was my understanding from many posts that the last phone call, ending just before 10 pm, was on her landline. The wording of that police report is talking about her Verizon cell phone and talks about a range of time of calls ending with 21:56. Then it goes on to mention the landline.
What is the consensus? That last call was actually on her cell phone? That police report is ambiguous, mixing together range of time from both cell phone and landline? That police report got it wrong? The landline is mentioned, but nothing about a call on it from that extracted page of police report that I saw.
Along those lines, has been unclear or I just haven't understood what calls were on cell phone and which were on landline. The cell phone calls would be on that ping report, and what little I've seen only showed times starting after 10 pm. There was also said to be poor cell phone reception in Jennifer's condo.
Maybe has been explained before and I didn't see it.
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rd_jfc
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flgrl, also same questions to you. Did I misunderstand several posts through last few years saying last phone call ending around 10 pm was on landline? I wonder which is true and where that came from?
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rd_jfc
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It was never clear to me what usage of her cell phone was made before 10 pm, but as I've noted a few times over many years, the same variance of cell tower contacts should be seen before 10 pm as after 10 pm. Any change in pattern of cell tower contacts from before 10 pm is an indication the cell phone was moving away from Jennifer's condo. It was always clear that that would be the case, but not something that has been accepted and talked about by those that have the information.
From the next page (25) of the report.
There was misinformation about the call to Rob being on her landline. I’m not sure of the source. I’ll have to see if I can find some quotes.
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That's interesting. The landline wasn't mentioned for years, then there was this stuff about such poor signal in Jennifer's condo that she would go to balcony to use her cell phone? And was unclear about evening's phone calls on cell phone or landline, but police report listed a range of time in the evening that calls were on cell phone.The couldn't use her cell phone in her condo appears to be misinformation as well, came along with that landline info?
That changes things quite a bit. Cell towers handled that phone call ending just before 10 pm. There is at least an indication that unusual cell tower locations were in contact with the Verizon and/or Nextel cell phones shortly after 10 pm. ("Can't be in two places at once" from Drew).
Quite frankly, coming off a phone call, the Verizon cell phone wouldn't be looking for a new contact tower unless it was moving out of range of the tower that transmitted the last call. You wouldn't have ping activity like that unless looking for a replacement tower contact due to moving out of range.
How can such fundamental information be ignored because of desire to make Jennifer's abduction at her car in the morning going to work?
The cell phone not working in her condo and her having to use it on the balcony came from her parents. Rob has always said that she said she was in bed when they spoke. I’m not sure where the landline info came from. It would have either came from the parents or the internet could have made an assumption due to the other statements. Maybe someone else knows. It may be in my notes, but I’m not at home at the moment.
Now they’re dismissing the pings as junk entirely and saying they don’t know when the phone was turned off (go fund me) . I definitely believe that the previous info they put out about the phone points to her being out and about that night and her being gone by 10:40 pm (attached photo from guestbook). I know back then you got more of a general area the phone was in vs a gps location like you do today. Maybe that’s the confusion? Im not a techy, but I’m not sure how there could be any debate if the phones were on or off. I believe the phone evidence is some of the most important info they have regarding her location and the timeline whatever the heck it may be. I’d love to know when the last communication that the cell phones had with the towers. I’ve never heard any info to lead me to believe that either were pinging past 10:40 pm, 1/23/2006.
From go fund me:
“Q. I would like to know exactly when Jenn and Travis’s cell phones were turned off.
A. Me Too! Long and short of the ping study is, it was so unreliable because of the infancy of the technology, that the pings made no sense as to time, location, and cell towers. THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE TIME EITHER PHONE WAS TURNED. That came from a Verizon specialists mouth not mine. Now, to set the record straight, I myself made the statement that I believed I was told the last ping was at 10:20 pm on 1/23/06. That information was a figment of my imagination. It was never said to me in the meeting of my recollection as there were many people there and none heard what I thought I heard, so for many years. I myself have provided false information when it comes to the ping study. And that hurts me deeply inside.”
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He is leaving out the up to 10:40 pm part of the posts in simplifying what he posted to a misunderstanding. The post was quite technical in nature (clearly info from a technician) and fairly involved. Not something that can be brushed off with I misheard. In addition, the source of the analysis, the ping records, are being withheld.
Not to get technical, but "location" has always been confusing because people misconstrue as a location of the cell phone at the time. And yes, determination of location of the cell phone has undergone technical advances since 2006.
However, location refers to location of the cell towers where the pings were recorded. There is nothing ambiguous or technically evolving about location of a cell tower. The phone company(s) generated a report of recorded contacts of the ID of Jennifer's cell phone. Nothing could be simpler, and there is zero ambiguity about it. I believe the Nextel ID contact info was also sought and should be in that printout.
That's all it is. A printout, as anyone who ever printed a report has done. List entries where cellphone ID was recorded at certain cell towers on 1/23/2006. Nothing could be simpler to understand. There are just some people that don't like what's in the report.
Not to get technical, but "location" has always been confusing because people misconstrue as a location of the cell phone at the time. And yes, determination of location of the cell phone has undergone technical advances since 2006.
However, location refers to location of the cell towers where the pings were recorded. There is nothing ambiguous or technically evolving about location of a cell tower. The phone company(s) generated a report of recorded contacts of the ID of Jennifer's cell phone. Nothing could be simpler, and there is zero ambiguity about it. I believe the Nextel ID contact info was also sought and should be in that printout.
That's all it is. A printout, as anyone who ever printed a report has done. List entries where cellphone ID was recorded at certain cell towers on 1/23/2006. Nothing could be simpler to understand. There are just some people that don't like what's in the report.
I was watching some thing on investigation discovery on another case and they said in this day and age today (not 2006) they can locate a phone and know where it is within a radius of 3 to 5 feet and if it’s on a first, second, third floor, etc. Amazing how quickly technology has progressed.
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