France - 5 shot, 4 dead in French Alps, may have int'l ramifications, 2012 #2

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Tuerie de Chevaline: les enquêteurs sur les traces de l'arme du quadruple meurtre


Ten years after the quadruple homicide, the "cold case" unit in Nanterre is aiming to find the perpetrator by focusing on the semi-automatic pistol that was used.

New impetus in the investigation into the Chevaline massacre. The Nanterre unit dedicated to serial and unsolved crimes (nicknamed the "cold case" unit) has been working since September on one of the most emblematic unsolved French cases of recent years.

And to try to advance the investigations, the investigating judge Sabine Khéris is calling on the investigators to focus on the weapon of the crimes, an old semi-automatic pistol, according to information from Le Parisien.

In a document obtained by our colleagues, Sabine Khéris instructs all police services in France to "report to the investigativer section of Chambéry any discovery or destruction of a P06 handgun (Luger type) of 7.65mm parabellum calibre as well as any discovery of ammunition of this calibre".

If the investigating judge is so interested in the weapon used by the perpetrator, it is because it is the only known element in the file that would make it possible to get hold of a suspect. It was precisely with an old Luger semi-automatic pistol that three members of the British family of Iraqi origin al-Hilli and a cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, were shot dead on 5 September 2012 in the village of Chevaline in Savoie.

In addition, as the perpetrator used the butt of a pistol on one of the two little girls who survived the attack, a fragment of the weapon was found at the scene of the crime, making it possible to target a certain range of the weapon in question.

According to Le Parisien, the courts had already been able to reduce the number of weapons to be examined to 3,000 thanks to this clue. However, so far, the searches have yielded nothing, hence the judge's call to remain vigilant and to report any discovery, even when they have been used for burglaries or suicides.


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Another detail of the fragment of the weapon that was found:

Le pôle « cold case » relance la piste de l’arme dans l’affaire Chevaline


According to experts, the shooting on 5 September 2012 lasted a maximum of 90 seconds. Twenty-one shells from the same weapon were found at the scene. The perpetrator shot the victims seventeen times. He also hit the shoulder of the family's eldest daughter, who was 7 years old at the time, and struck her on the head with the butt of the pistol. It was at this point that a piece of the butt plate came off the gun, which allowed to tighten the range of the P06 Luger to be recovered.


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Tuerie de Chevaline: les enquêteurs sur les traces de l'arme du quadruple meurtre


Ten years after the quadruple homicide, the "cold case" unit in Nanterre is aiming to find the perpetrator by focusing on the semi-automatic pistol that was used.

New impetus in the investigation into the Chevaline massacre. The Nanterre unit dedicated to serial and unsolved crimes (nicknamed the "cold case" unit) has been working since September on one of the most emblematic unsolved French cases of recent years.

And to try to advance the investigations, the investigating judge Sabine Khéris is calling on the investigators to focus on the weapon of the crimes, an old semi-automatic pistol, according to information from Le Parisien.

In a document obtained by our colleagues, Sabine Khéris instructs all police services in France to "report to the investigativer section of Chambéry any discovery or destruction of a P06 handgun (Luger type) of 7.65mm parabellum calibre as well as any discovery of ammunition of this calibre".

If the investigating judge is so interested in the weapon used by the perpetrator, it is because it is the only known element in the file that would make it possible to get hold of a suspect. It was precisely with an old Luger semi-automatic pistol that three members of the British family of Iraqi origin al-Hilli and a cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, were shot dead on 5 September 2012 in the village of Chevaline in Savoie.

In addition, as the perpetrator used the butt of a pistol on one of the two little girls who survived the attack, a fragment of the weapon was found at the scene of the crime, making it possible to target a certain range of the weapon in question.

According to Le Parisien, the courts had already been able to reduce the number of weapons to be examined to 3,000 thanks to this clue. However, so far, the searches have yielded nothing, hence the judge's call to remain vigilant and to report any discovery, even when they have been used for burglaries or suicides.


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It seems that Frederic Vaglio and his group may hold the answers IMO
 

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Another edition of RTL’s ‘L’Heure du Crime’ on Chevaline today - should come up in the replay section at some point later today or tomorrow:

 

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It’s largely a fairly standard recap of the known facts, with a couple of variations (eg the idea that Mollier was dragged by the open door of the car rather than run over and dragged under the front bumper) - I hadn’t realised (or had forgotten) that the campsite altercation occurred at the Europa rather than Solitaire du Lac and that the caravan was apparently smashed up inside as a result.

There’s also a couple of points with which I disagree in Rizet’s latest version - he suggests that Pierre C (the Lyon motorcyclist) owned a GPA helmet, despite the man himself denying ever having owned one and no evidence that he did being found during the searches of his home and business - IMO this is a red herring invented by the gendarmerie in an attempt to explain how Pierre C was seen by the two ONF rangers wearing an open face helmet, but the Brett Martin motorcyclist’s helmet was full face. The fact that Pierre C’s helmet was black, but the Brett Martin motorcyclist’s helmet was white/silver seems to have slipped by them.

Also, the idea that Mollier was shot first (suggesting he was the intended target) persists, with an additional suggestion that Zainab was shot last, the killer then running out of ammunition. IMO Mollier, Zainab and Saad were all hit in the initial volley of four shots - Mollier and Zainab hit in the back as they ran close together towards the rear of the car, Saad hit in the lower back as he got into the driving seat.

Also, Rizet again mentions the dark coloured BMW - IMO this was a misidentification of the al Hilli’s BMW in the shade of the tree cover by the other ONF ranger as they passed each other at speed. Afaik, the presence of this ‘ghost’ car has also been excluded by investigators.
 

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