France - 5 shot, 4 dead in French Alps, may have int'l ramifications, 2012 #2

There is no hope "in the near future" of solving the murders of an Iraqi-born British citizen and his family in the French Alps, a chief prosecutor says.

Eric Maillaud said the inquiry into the shootings in Annecy in early September was a "long task".

Saad al-Hilli, 50, from Surrey, was found dead in his car, along with his wife and her 74-year-old mother.

Daughter Zainab, seven, was found shot but alive and her sister, Zeena, four, was found hiding under bodies.

A French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, 45, was also shot dead.

The family - including Mr al-Hilli's dentist wife Iqbal, 47, and her mother, were murdered in their car while on holiday near Chevaline, close to the tourist destination of Lake Annecy.

French and British police have formed a joint task force comprising Surrey police, French police and French magistrates, with the aim of speeding up the flow of information between the two countries.

Officers have been investigating Mr al-Hilli's work as an engineer, his family connections and possible links in Iraq, where he was born.

Mr Maillaud said: "We're investigating everything but it all takes a lot of time, trying to piece together the lives of all the people who have died, trying to perhaps understand a real motive, the real reasons for these killings.

"Perhaps if we can understand why they were killed we can work out who killed them, but at the moment there are many questions.

"I think the investigation will take a very, very long time, unless we discover something that will suddenly enable us to understand everything.

"There are lines of inquiry but each raises so many questions and nothing suggests there will be a quick solution."

He also said it was too early to determine whether officers would need to travel to Iraq as part of the inquiry.

Link from BBC Surrey
 
Mail a bloodhound is left in the Haute-Savoie, in late September, to return empty-handed. "I have rarely seen a story of this magnitude disappear as quickly radars media" surprised Henry Samuel in the Daily Telegraph. "We used all the tracks and there is no filter. There is the assumption villainous in Iraq, but it will be complicated. We hung the testimony of small Zainab. But will she just say something? "Absence of any new, breasts Kate Middleton or runaway Bordeaux have monopolized more columns of the tabloids and broad sheets these days. "But given the importance of this history and diversity of assumptions that may go back to state services, the slightest spark, it will leave," said Samuel.

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While the investigation stalled, an element has come to shed new light on the killing of Horses. This week, the police showed the villagers of photos taken by the al-Hilli few minutes before the tragedy and found in the family car, to see if the witnesses could have seen.

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It keeps getting more and more curious, he certainly was frightened of something, a taser in the house, changing the locks.
This case has so many twists and turns.
Still wonder why the Prosecutor was so negative about solving the case, so early on.
 
It was reported in the French media yesterday that two wills connected with the estate of Hilli's father were also found in the family home. Some car numberplates were also reportedly recovered.
Swiss authorities said last week that they had seized an account in a private Geneva bank that “could be linked” to the murders. Maillaud said the account had been opened by Hilli's father
Maillaud would not comment on reports that it was credited with a little over $1.2 million and that Hilli himself may have deposited money in Geneva, less than two hours' drive from Annecy, shortly before the murders.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-gun-in-his-home/story-e6frg6so-1226490094020

Wow, where would SAH have gotten 1.2 million if true.
 
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/350549/Alps-victim-changed-locks-in-family-feud

N engineer shot dead during a quadruple murder in the Alps had changed the locks of his family home to stop his estranged brother getting in, police have revealed.

bbm

A published legal document shows Saad had attempted to stop the terms of his father’s will being carried out. The family is said to be worth many millions, with reports of properties in Spain, France and Iraq, as well as Surrey.
 
http://news.sky.com/story/993994/alps-shootings-swiss-bank-account-seized

Detectives are also said to have found colour photographs that show the victims moments before the gunman struck.

They show the family from Claygate, Surrey, in the countryside near Lake Annecy on September 5.

All were taken in front of a picturesque house covered in flowers outside Doussard, a town close to the village of Chevaline.

The pictures show the family looking relaxed and happy after parking their car for a few holiday snaps.

Witnesses who saw them reportedly said the family were "certainly unaware of the doom that awaited them".
 
I am wondering why after there being no new information for quite some time there is now a slow drip feed of new information being released,

we now know of the secret swiss bank account, the lock changing, the illegal taser, the wills in the house etc

if all these facts are true then it appears that Mr Al Hilli was afraid of something in the weeks leading up to his death
 
They wrote a story about finding a stun gun in the victim's home? Why?

I would think that finding an illegal stun gun in his house would be very interesting to the police. Why did he have it ,where did he get it from?

Was it for defence or had he been involved in any previous criminal activity.
 
Along with the recently changed locks, the stun gun (particularly one held illegally) might speak to the fact that Saad felt the family were in danger.
 
The trip to France must have been essential for some reason.
One would think he would have felt safer in his house with changed locks and a taser, then in a caravan in France, but it seems not.
If it was a meeting or a visit to the bank why not just fly in.
This must be the most baffling murder in a long time.
I change my theory daily but going by the only facts we have, the only person we know he was in dispute with was his brother. This certainly wouldn't be the first killing caused by a dispute over a will.
 
Here in the UK a stun gun is looked upon as seriously as a firearm by law..
 
Here in the UK a stun gun is looked upon as seriously as a firearm by law..

Really, a stun gun is no match for a semi automatic considering it needs close proximity to the attacker. Especially if more than one attacker. A taser is better but still no match for a real gun. Besides, he could have owned it for years. Hard to believe, he obtained it to keep his brother away.
And on changing the locks, may be he or someone in his family lost their keys.
I have changed my locks already for that reason.
Besides, their house is no fort. If somebody experienced really wants to get in, they get in one way or another. The tall hedges in front will nicely obscure any burglar attempt.
 
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/bre...-still-a-mystery/story-e6frg13l-1226489568056

The investigators have been building up a detailed profile of the assets of the late father of Saad al-Hilli, following suggestions early in the inquiry that a disputed inheritance could be linked to the murder.

The investigators contacted satellite operators who may have registered images of the scene, without success, and are still examining the Hillis' car to ensure they have extracted every last fragment of bullet and established as much information as possible about its movement in the lead-up to the killings.
 
http://www.brecorder.com/world/europe/83979.html

Swiss authorities have seized money in a Geneva bank account linked to a British couple of Iraqi origin killed last month in the French Alps, a Swiss daily reported Friday.

Swiss public broadcaster RTS meanwhile reported Friday that the bank account seized in Geneva had belonged to Hilli's recently deceased father and that it contained "well under" the six million Swiss francs (five million euros) evoked by British media.

In addition to the reported Swiss bank account link to the crime, French investigators have said they were looking into whether the killer may have fled across the nearby Swiss border after the murders.

Looking at a map its about a 45 minute drive from the campsite to geneva, I wonder if someone saw him get money out and followed him to rob, I also wonder if his brother knew about the account.
 

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