GA - Marietta, WhtFem 624UFGA, 25-30, at construction site near I-75, Jun'93

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  1. ctaylor

    ctaylor New Member

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    Could not find a thread on this case, but found a recent article so thought I would post..

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/624ufga.html

    Unidentified White Female

    The victim was discovered on June 25, 1993 in Marietta, Cobb County, Georgia
    Skeletal Remains

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 31-36 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'3-5'6"; 100-120 lbs.
    Dentals: Available. Dental work present.
    Clothing: A white, halter top; sleeveless, tan jacket and light weight, blousy, elastic, waistband slacks. The victim also wore a 24 inch long strand of white beads, with imprinted, blue flowers, separated by gold colored, metal beads and multi colored, bead earrings.

    Case History
    The victim was located at a construction site at Shufflegrit Road, in Marietta, GA.


    http://acworth.11alive.com/news/news/110875-bones-found-1993-not-cherokee-woman

     
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  3. mamashawn

    mamashawn New Member

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    Such an oddly specific age range.
     
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    dsntslp New Member

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    "Suspicions link 
3 unsolved cases
    Women missing or dead were all involved with same man"

    METRO ATLANTA / STATE NEWS 5:00 a.m. Wednesday, November 9, 2011
    http://www.ajc.com/news/suspicions-link-3-unsolved-1218453.html

    Me: So now it may be four or this current UID did not know Creasman.
    Rita Creasman, Twyla Mickey and Belinda Norred all knew Creasman when they disappeared.
    Rita was married to him when she disappeared and Twyla lived with him at the time of her disappearance.
    Creasman "stayed at" Belinda's home a lot when Belinda disappeared.

    Alrighty then...who else did Creasman date that could be this UID.

    Although Gary Hilton lived not too awful far from there, as well.
    It is not his MO to bury anybody though, right?
    Although...that man switched it up a lot! He even bragged about switching it up to confuse LE.
    I'll look tomorrow and see where he was back then.

    G'night all.
     
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    dsntslp New Member

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    dsntslp New Member

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    Chamblee, GA to Allgood Rd, Marietta, GA - Google Maps

    ...19.9 miles from Chamblee - where Hilton lived at his boss' house.

    I must have mapped this before for Belinda Norred, seems awfully familiar.
    Guess I better figure out where Hilton was in 1993 before I pursue that line any further...tomorrow.

    Geez, so where was he in 1993? From July 1987 until 1997 = no entries for his whereabouts.
    GMH Timeline-No Discussion-Scroll Down For Updates - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    LOL. See, I told ya'! Tomorrow!! I will research this, enough for one night already. G'night :)
     
  7. dsntslp

    dsntslp New Member

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    OT (kinda): I could not find a Doe Network page for Belinda Norred so I sent them a note.

    Did anybody else find one?
     
  8. Wanting2Help

    Wanting2Help New Member

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    sniped for space...
    The article above says:
    I wonder if that is a result of the DNA testing? Hopefully they will update the profiles with the new age range...
     
  9. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Age cannot be determined via DNA testing.
     
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    How do they determine it then? I know that they look at certain bones and growth plates, but there are many times I have heard that they changed the approximate age after testing. Are they just looking at them again and not actually running tests??

    TIA
     
  11. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Just as you said - they look at certain bones and growth plates. But they may get different readings from looking at different bones. They may just decide that all of the readings evaluated collectively support a different estimate than initially stated.

    But as for DNA, our DNA remains the same throughout our lives, so you wouldn't be able to determine age from DNA.
     
  12. ctaylor

    ctaylor New Member

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    I found a page on NAMUS for Belinda Norred - https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/12599

    MISSING PERSON
    Belinda Frances Norred
    MISSING SINCE: August 06, 1992
    LAST SEEN: Acworth, Georgia
    HEIGHT: 65.0 in SEX: Female
    WEIGHT: 120.0 lbs EYES: Blue
    HAIR: Blond/Strawberry
    SCARS/MARKS: Scar on neck from surgery
    Contact Cherokee County Sheriff's Office at 770-928-0239 with information.
    Case #: 92-08-32980 NamUs MP #: 12599

    More info at the link above..
     
  13. ctaylor

    ctaylor New Member

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    What do you guys think about Twyla Mickey? She was last seen in November 1989 in Doraville which according to Google Maps is only about 30 minutes from Marietta. She was 30 when she went missing and was around 5'6

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8506/72/

    I'm assuming though that as Cobb County police is the contact given on her NAMUS page that they might have already looked into this and ruled out?
     
  14. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Here's a photo of Belinda Norred (i.e., the woman just ruled out against this UID)

    [​IMG]

    There aren't any photos of her elsewhere (except in the article linked above), so I am posting it here. I also forwarded it to Meaghan at Charley Project and hopefully she can do a casefile on her.

    I still can't find any photos of Twyla Mickey. She is listed in Ancestry with with a birth-year of 1958 and most recent address in Villa Rica, GA
     
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    [Edit] cripes..I see that this article was already linked by dsntslp in the third post...I'll just take my lack of reading comprehension and hide over here --->
    http://www.ajc.com/news/suspicions-link-3-unsolved-1218453.html

     
  16. mamashawn

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    Do we have an estimated death date? I haven't seen one...

    I searched NAMUS and found 3 possibles.

    Kathleen Randall

    Becky Minish

    Nancy Williams

    All three are missing from GA. Their LKA dates range from '82 to '88. The last one is a long shot. She's from GA, but evidently was LKA in Ohio, as the Ohio police are handling the case.
     
  17. dsntslp

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    OT: LOL! Jubble you IS fuuuny! :)
     
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    This is first submitting a "maybe," so please be kind! :)

    What about Bridget Clodfelter? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/clodfelter_bridget.html
    She was LKA on September 5, 1992. The place she was last seen is about nine miles from where the remains were found. There are other similarities:

    Weight: 100 - 120 lbs - Bridget is 110 pounds.
    Height: 5' 3" - 5' 6" - Bridget is 5'3.
    Sex: Female
    Birth Range: 1957 - 1962. This contradicts a more recent article here: http://acworth.11alive.com/news/news/110875-bones-found-1993-not-cherokee-woman, which lists the age as 25-30, Bridget was 27 in 1992.

    Here are some cons:
    I feel like this potential match has probably already been investigated. It is SO CLOSE to where Bridget was last seen. I can't find this UID in NAMUS, so I can't tell if she's been ruled out.

    The clothes do not match what Bridget was reportedly last wearing.

    Could remains be skeletonized after nine months? I am not an expert in decomposition.

    Honestly, she doesn't really look like the UID, but it's hard to tell because Bridget's hair is dyed and she is wearing heavy eyeliner in the picture. But I can see some similarities in the mouth area.
     
  19. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    One would think due to the proximity and timeframe that she would have been looked at. But you never know.

    My gut impression (primarily from the clothing) is that this is probably not Bridget. But don't take my word for it.

    I wouldn't put too much reliance on the resemblance (or lack thereof) to the recon sculpture. This artist creates nice-looking sculptures, but for at least a couple of cases where the UID has ultimately been identified, the resemblance is way off. I know of one that was pretty close, but I know of a couple others that were not close at all.

    Close:
    http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=17926

    Not So Close:
    http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=18174
    http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?showtopic=17931

    And BTW, none of DoeNet's four UID's from Cobb County GA are in NamUs:
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/623ufga.html
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/95umga.html
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/624ufga.html
    http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase291.html
     
  20. FiveFelines

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    Revisiting this one. What do you think of Deborah Jean McNeeley?

    UID: 5'3-5'6"; 100-120 lbs
    DJM: 5'5"; 155 lbs

    UID: 25-37 depending on source
    DJM: 39

    DJM went missing on January 29, 1991 from Rockdale County, GA, and her car was found in Decatur. That's less than an hour away from Marietta. The weight is off and she's a little over the age range but the location is good. I found an article from a few months ago stating that her case is being reopened; sounds like her ex is the prime suspect. Thoughts?

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mckneely_deborah.html
     
  21. MrsTigglesworth

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    EDIT: this was in response to the Bridget Clodfelter posts...

    I was just looking at these cases today. The unidentified woman's file reports unknown eye and hair color... I wonder what that recon would look like with Bridget's coloring?? The age is just a little off, but the other stats match as well as the fact that they were both wearing somewhat "stylish" clothing (IMO)

    If nobody has called to check out this possibility, I will !
     

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