GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam Co, 2 May 2014 - #13

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  1. worm

    worm Well-Known Member

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    I just seen this case on HLN and was so surprised when I found out it was unsolved. I watched the entire show thinking I would see justice before it ended but...
    I came straight here and was glad to find so much interest from members after so long. Needless to say, I have a lot of catch up reading to do. Cold cases are so frustrating.
     
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  2. ilovewings

    ilovewings Well-Known Member

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    You are right: cold cases are frustrating, but my belief is that often (though not always) cases go cold because they were not properly and thoroughly investigated. I cannot even count the times I have watched cases that have gone cold for decades and years later when other detectives review the file they find out that a witness wasn't followed up with or some piece of evidence was ignored. It happens so often it is shocking.
     
  3. worm

    worm Well-Known Member

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    This is so true. Technology also plays a roll with old cases a lot of the time. I know little so far about the sheriff in this case but I do think he is spot on about something and that’s the possibility of somebody telling it at some point. Tho it isn’t impossible, I’m not thinking that this was a single person who done this. At least I hope not since the chances are better if there is more than one. Speaking of tech, I’m amazed that cameras weren’t more helpful even tho it’s been a while back. I have hope in your suggestion too that other eyes may spark a lead.
     
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  4. MizStery

    MizStery Missing Pregnant Lacy P. brought me here in 2005

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    Hi everyone.

    Just like worm I just watched the HLN program.

    I remembered back in May 14,2014 I posted a partial timeline. The original Eatonville Messenger Link is broken.

    Websleuths member Suba99 posted May 14,2o14
    ‘I thanked and posted back to Suba99 May14,2014

    ‘I apologize my ‘copy and paste’ post is displaying with odd ‘ editor html’ thrown in.I have attempted to clean it up.

    For posters who hopefully might remember ‘does it seem like way back in 2014 there was reporting on some ‘conflict’ among extended family or business partners relating to the lucrative restaurant franchises.I remember Mr Drummond owned numerous restaurants ?

    just My Opinion
    MOO
     
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  5. MizStery

    MizStery Missing Pregnant Lacy P. brought me here in 2005

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    I have looked for the investigative articles or video’s discussing the very lucrative history of the Dermond’s franchises and any fallout from their sale. Of course this all transpired prior to their retirement to Georgia.

    This resentment could even have happened after Mr Dermond’s retirement. . Perhaps his extended family using profits leveraged this advantage into acquiring distressed businesses. Gosh I just do not remember? (Since I am asking for help I will say this is my theory only)

    I remember reading disturbing reporting on this topic in 2014. Reporters clearly alluded to possible outside hostility toward his business associates or individuals in his extended family.This is a haunting mystery that I would love to see solved.If any one else remembers the journalists or has links(unfortunately by 2021 most are broken or by subscription only) that would be awesome.

    Just My Opinion/Theory based on faulty memory
     
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    worm Well-Known Member

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    Just my thoughts gathered from the HLN show but I thought LE looked pretty deep into the victims business interests and their son?
     
  7. MizStery

    MizStery Missing Pregnant Lacy P. brought me here in 2005

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    Hello Worm!

    I agree the investigation into the death of their son was exhaustive and had no bearing on this crime. The fact Sills emphasized the possibility of a grudge brings me back to the early reporting on the Durmond’s lucrative ownership and sale of their restaurant franchises.(my opinion only)


    After viewing the HLN show I had so many questions that I just had to go back to refresh my memory. Our Webseluths thread on the Dermond’s had the best timeline & reporting from 2014. My gut feeling is if this tragedy from 2014 is to ever be solved then independent fresh eyes should be allowed to review the evidence.

    I would like to see Sills invite another outside agency to start from the beginning and look for clues or tips that he may have dismissed).

    All I can say is Sills narrative is choppy(?)this may be due to HLN editing (anyhow it set off my hinky meter) My Opinion Only

    MOO
     
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  8. PsychoBabble

    PsychoBabble Well-Known Member

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    Hi-
    I recall there was some effort to clarify the circumstances of the son’s death years earlier as definitely being drug related.

    Indeed, fresh eyes might help!

    I’ve always felt it was an “inside job” executed by highly trained and handsomely paid assassins. JMHO
     
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    Ok, so we know alcoholism and drug addiction often have a genetic component. We know how trauma affects the brain and its not good.

    All three of their adult children were thoroughly investigated.

    What about the grandson who inherited his deceased father's portion of the estate? He was a young adult, correct?

    It doesn't sound like he was looked at as thoroughly (phone records, lie detector, etc).

    Could he have been following in his father's footsteps? IMO all family members need to be looked at and interviewed again.

    I think that someone hired a criminal to help them kill the Dermonds. Access would've been easy to gain.

    "Hey, we just wanted to come say hello. We went out for a boat ride. Let's have some tea."

    The lamp shade gets hit.

    Or...

    "Come out to see my new boat!"

    Then a surprise ambush. We know the rest.
     
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    There are too many possibilities with the information we have. After all these years, we don't know the motive, how the crime happened, where it happened or when it occurred.

    Franchising can be a cutthroat business where you make enemies, but there are thousands of franchise owners in the US. Unless there is a specific event, it's too high level a speculation.

    ETA: The kids are deeply involved in the business so they would know if there were any notable incidents for fights. It's probably one of the first questions the Sheriff asked them, " did your father have any enemies, anyone who would harm them". They're also less likely to lie because initially their mother was missing and it's possible she was kidnapped/alive.
     
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    Just watched the Real Life Nightmare episode of this on HLN. What a horrific crime! So odd it hasn’t been solved. The sheriff stated he has some evidence, that if ever any suspect could be used to “match up” something. He wouldn’t say what it was.
     
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    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been reading up on this case just recently. I agree it could likely be someone in their inner circle. RD’s head taken, so that the bullet wouldn’t be found. Did they not plan for that ? Did the murderer think the bullet would exit? Seems like someone close. I still have questions about the family of the son who was murdered a few years prior. But I know I have more reading to do.
     

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