GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 2

[los2188]

Shirley Dermond

Elderly man killed, wife missing in Putnam County -

Putnam county deputies are investigating what they are calling a homicide and an abduction. The sheriff's office released a statement saying they believe they found the body of 88-year-old Russell Dermond. They said they are "virtually certain" it is the body of Russell Dermond and that he was "definitely the victim of a homicide."

Family members went to Dermond's home at the Great Waters Community on Lake Oconee in Putnam county. Shirley Dermond was not at the home when police arrived, and they "presume she may have been abducted at this time."

Anyone with information is asked to contact the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office at 706-485-8557.
http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/2014/05/06/putnam-man-killed-wife-missing/8785833/

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Thread #1

 

[Carolinapeach]

I only got the end of the report on WSB but did hear 60 or 70 deputies from neighboring counties were helping in the search today. The reporter said Sills is still declining to call in the GBI for help. More info on that coming up during the 5 PM broadcast.

From my rough notes. Not a transcript:

Sills has declined to call in GBI investigators. GBI confirmed. Has relied only on the state's medical examiners. Sills says the GBI has been involved, their lab is involved, their pathologists. Sills says if you can tell me something that a GBI agent knows how to do that he doesn't know how to do then he'll be glad to call them. Sills says nothing in this couple's background that they have been able to uncover. Described them as an All- American couple.

 

[bessie]

Weekend leads fruitless in Putnam slaying, disappearance

By LIZ FABIAN
May 12, 2014

Putnam County investigators are still hunting leads to help them solve the killing of Russell Dermond and the disappearance of his wife, Shirley.

“There’s nothing,” Sheriff Howard Sills said early Monday.

Investigators had hoped that with increased traffic on Lake Oconee over the weekend that a major clue would turn up or that someone would find a trace of the 87-year-old woman who vanished from the couple’s waterfront home.

Sills spent more than three hours with an FBI behavior specialist examining the probable personality of someone who would kill an 88-year-old man, remove his head and leave the body in the victim’s garage.

Authorities are looking at all possibilities, including a theory that the couple was abducted and his body returned to the house after the killing.

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2014/05/12/3093741/weekend-leads-fruitless-in-putnam.html#storylink=cpy


Elderly couple mystery | Sheriff dismisses rumors of mob involvement

Updated: 4:42 p.m. Tuesday, May 13, 2014 | Posted: 7:38 a.m. Tuesday, May 13, 2014

Sills said rumors of organized crime involvement are unfounded.

“No, the man wasn’t in witness protection,” he said. “He wasn’t going to testify. There’s no evidence of any kind of torture.”

Investigators believe Russell Dermond’s head, yet to be recovered, was severed after he was killed.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/report-robot-to-be-used-in-search-for-reynolds-pla/nft3h/

 

[Treelights]

Thank You Bessie for Thread Number 2.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Thanks for the new thread Bessie. I appreciate the mods here for all they do. :loveyou:

 

[bessie]

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[MotherOcean]

Weekend leads fruitless in Putnam slaying, disappearance
Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2014/05/12/3093741/weekend-leads-fruitless-in-putnam.html#storylink=cpy

SNIPPED:

"There are no immediate plans for a full-scale search of the area, he said, but extra patrols were on the lake last weekend."


I don't understand this. Why not have a full search of that peninsula? I have been looking at it on google maps. It seems unreal, impossible that this crime was not committed by someone right there in the immediate vicinity or someone nearby on the lake side. No one came meandering along until they just up and decided to go to the Dermond's residence. Someone came past that gate or came by boat. I know this is no news flash but it has really struck me after looking more closely at google maps. I think if someone came through the gate then it was someone with a legitimate reason to be there. If someone came by boat it would have had to be at night.

Another thing I have wondered... if the security camera was out and a guard did not check an incoming vehicle, would the family have a legitimate reason to sue the development? Not suggesting or implying a motive for any family involvement. Just wondering how much protection this community really offers to residents who pay big bucks to be there.

 

[Cher352]

Just thought I would bring over some of the links from the other thread.

Layout of the Reynolds Plantation. Great Waters,the section the Dermonds lived in, is in the lower left corner. Click on to zoom in. Carolyn drive is the street directly across from the driving range:

http://images.reynoldsplantation.co...tion.com/files/content_files/RPMasterplan.jpg

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Google map of 147 Carolyn Drive Eatonton:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...2!3m1!1s0x88f6ed24ef40b0fb:0xb1df5a5de07016fc

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Putnam County Tax Assessors Building Sketch:

http://qpublic7.qpublic.net/cgi-bin/ga_putnam_sketch.cgi?parcel=R&building=8560

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Putnam County Tax Assessors Parcels Map

http://qpublic7.qpublic.net/qpmap4/...8&layers=parcels+streetnum+roads+parcel_sales

Note all the lots on the right side of Carolyn Dr are empty lots, no houses built yet.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Officials said that based on their investigation, they have been able to narrow the timeframe of the crime to somewhere between 4:30 p.m., on Friday, May 3 – when the mail was delivered – to 4 p.m. on Saturday, May 4, when the couple did not show up for a party.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/l...-continue-search-for-shirley-dermond/9091165/

bbm cbm

 

[mck16]

SNIPPED:

"There are no immediate plans for a full-scale search of the area, he said, but extra patrols were on the lake last weekend."


I don't understand this. Why not have a full search of that peninsula? I have been looking at it on google maps. It seems unreal, impossible that this crime was not committed by someone right there in the immediate vicinity or someone nearby on the lake side. No one came meandering along until they just up and decided to go to the Dermond's residence. Someone came past that gate or came by boat. I know this is no news flash but it has really struck me after looking more closely at google maps. I think if someone came through the gate then it was someone with a legitimate reason to be there. If someone came by boat it would have had to be at night.

Another thing I have wondered... if the security camera was out and a guard did not check an incoming vehicle, would the family have a legitimate reason to sue the development? Not suggesting or implying a motive for any family involvement. Just wondering how much protection this community really offers to residents who pay big bucks to be there.

Don't know if this applies to this area or not but I know much of the forested area of Georgia is covered in Kudzue. The locals would know if this applies to this area. If it does, searching would be very difficult. Just a thought as to the search.

 

[Foxfire]

OT-FYI FT Bragg Soldier Kelli Bordeaux Remains located - Suspec Arrested

http://www.wral.com/remains-of-miss...bordeaux-recovered-suspect-arrested/13645206/

 

[Cher352]

First comments I have seen from family:

Speaking to MailOnline, Keith, 55, from Jacksonville, Florida, said: ‘We are completely devastated, but our primary focus is finding our mother. The thought of her suffering is just unbearable.

Each hour that goes by, my brother, my sister and me are becoming more resigned to the fact that we may never see her again and we may never know what happened.

‘If she is still alive, we can’t imagine what she is going through. The human spirit is incredibly strong… but it has almost got to the stage where we hope she is with our father, just to ease her suffering.

‘Whoever did this was so sick in the head that I just can’t imagine it.’

Read more of interview: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rgia-murder-mystery-horror.html#ixzz31jUddf8Z

 

[Foxfire]

Don't know if this applies to this area or not but I know much of the forested area of Georgia is covered in Kudzue. The locals would know if this applies to this area. If it does, searching would be very difficult. Just a thought as to the search.

mck16, Kudzu is in its initial growing stages around Oconee and wouldn't be an issue at this time. Kudzu has tunnels where K9s can travel, as does the deer and other animals. No worries..

It concerns me that Sheriff Sills did not request the resources of the GBI or a SAR.. They are free investigative resources.. Why would you not utilize all available resources? This tells me that Sheriff Sills and the GBI must have had issues in the past, or that Sheriff Sills is old school; "This is the way that we have always done it", attitude...
'This is the 21st century, loose the ego Sheriff Howard Sills'... "A life or lives may depend on it"..

"Sadistic Psychopathic Predators are recidivist and will repeat their deviant behavior until they are apprehended"!... "All available resources must be utilized"...

 

[1&2&3]

Wonder why the Dermond children have not offered a much bigger reward? Just ASSuming, with the boys following in their father's footsteps, they must have plenty of money. It just seems a bit odd that there is not a huge reward. The $20,000.00 is laughable and will bring no leads as wealthy as the Dermonds are!

My opinions only!

 

[mck16]

mck16, Kudzu is in its initial growing stages around Oconee and wouldn't be an issue at this time. Kudzu has tunnels where K9s can travel, as does the deer and other animals. No worries..

It concerns me that Sheriff Sills did not request the resources of the GBI or a SAR.. They are free investigative resources.. Why would you not utilize all available resources? This tells me that Sheriff Sills and the GBI must have had issues in the past, or that Sheriff Sills is old school; "This is the way that we have always done it", attitude...
'This is the 21st century, loose the ego Sheriff Howard Sills'... "A life or lives may depend on it"..

"Sadistic Psychopathic Predators are recidivist and will repeat their deviant behavior until they are apprehended"!... "All available resources must be utilized"...

Does that mean it dies in the winter? If so I didn't know that. I know it is a mess, but I think it is so pretty. As far as the tunnels, that is so cool. I am glad to hear that. Thanks.

 

[Renea]

Can someone please post another photo of Shirley other than her drivers licence photo. Please, for the love of God and Shirley! No
body looks like their drivers licence photo!

 

[Foxfire]

First comments I have seen from family:

Heartwrenching and Tragic....
STAY STRONG by Heather Cohen
https://soundcloud.com/musictykoon/stay-strong

TOGETHER... WE ARE CUE (Community United Effort) - YouTube

 

[Renea]

This scares me to death. In 1975 I was almost abducted in Green Acres, Florida. I remember the day like it was yesterday... White Van, guy with long blonde hair offering me candy and to take me to school... I ran like a MF! Lucky me... but now I fear for my own girls. This stuff keeps me awake at night and I fear I am not "living" my life!

 

[tlcya]

Just marking my spot here. back later phone call.

 

[Carolinapeach]

Does that mean it dies in the winter? If so I didn't know that. I know it is a mess, but I think it is so pretty. As far as the tunnels, that is so cool. I am glad to hear that. Thanks.

It dies back in the winter but comes back from the roots ready to take over everything in the spring. Come get all you want. Lol.