GA GA - Timothy Cunningham, 35, Chamblee, 12 Feb 2018

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  1. Coppertop15

    Coppertop15 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, I've never heard that either! Can animals smell serotonin? Is that why my cats know when I'm dangerously depressed?
     


  2. Coppertop15

    Coppertop15 Well-Known Member

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    Suicide by train happens about once a year in our town. There's no grade separation on most of the many crossings here.
     
  3. GeorgiaPeach1

    GeorgiaPeach1 Well-Known Member

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    I hope it wasn’t Tim in the yellow river but I just wanted to point out that Mercer University used to be in Covington,GA (the place where the body was found in the river) and I believe I read on here Tim worked at the Mercer CDC location. I believe the university location in Covington recently closed but I wonder if the Covington area was familiar to him because of that connection. The location isn’t really that far away from Atlanta. I know several people who live out there and drive to the city every day. Either way it’s a terrible situation for whomever was found in the river.
     
  4. liz b.

    liz b. Well-Known Member

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    Tim lived alone in that house ? just him and his dog ?
     
  5. Atlmom

    Atlmom Well-Known Member

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    @GeorgiaPeach1. Tim worked at the Chamblee CDC location. There is also a Mercer University campus in Atlanta, which is about 2 miles from where he worked.
     
  6. cnmccarthy

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    Wow ! That is incredible! I had no idea dogs could do that. I mean I knew they had incredible noses, but for them to distinguish between a scent from someone who’s suicidal or not/getting confused etc, is so fascinating. I guess that’s part of the reason why some dogs can detect when you’re about to have an anxiety attack and come and comfort you or tell when you’re sad and come over and comfort you. Dogs are incredible animals.
     
  7. Breamworthy

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    I asked a while back if that house didn't seem really big for one person, and folks from that area said no, it's a pretty typical size even for a single person. Seems huge to me, but I'm not American.
     
  8. cnmccarthy

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    Very great response and explanation samara. I agree with you 100%. This post is dead on. ❤️
     
  9. liltexans

    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    Yes, I believe so. I know that some studies have been done in cats showing that they can "smell" cancer in people. It's an area of research that is still developing, but I find it fascinating. Dogs and cats have incredibly sensitive senses of smell. Even minor differences in body chemistry can be noticed by them and if they are specifically trained for tracking or detection purposes, there is a whole world of possibilities for application of their natural abilities.
     
  10. cnmccarthy

    cnmccarthy Well-Known Member

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    I think so coppertop. I learned they can even detect the chemicals you put off before a migraine. That was one of the things I wanted to teach my service dog besides retrieving my meds, was to be a migraine alert dog. It is fascinating what they can detect.
     
  11. liz b.

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    I wasn't commenting so much on the size of the house. just wondered if Tim lives alone with his dog.
     
  12. marycreekmore

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    Yes, from what I reaad he lived alone but when I did the address search, his sister was also listed at that address. From what I've read, she now lives in NC.
     
  13. RosalindaA

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    Have to agree, suicide is a possibility here, I think. And absolutely, the outwardly most successful, gifted "perfect" people can suffer from crippling depression, high achievers sometimes have too much pressure put on them and/or by themselves. Sometimes, they don't have the ability to give themselves a break.

    And dogs are amazing creatures, I agree, I think they can detect diabetic problems and epilepsy too. I noticed after I had been working as a nurse for a while, people with certain problems had certain scents. Certainly some cancers do, people with cirrhosis, infections. After a while (sorry if TMI !) but I could smell sugar in, protein, blood or an infection in urine even before I tested it. I won't go into the other! but it was also very telling. I definitely think dogs could pick up things like adrenaline, serotonin, hormones. Ultimately what's going on inside will affect what you secrete out of yourself.

    Off topic, but I have been following the Liam Colgan thread, a Scots tourist who is missing in Hamburg, Germany. He was known to be very inebriated at the time and the dogs being used have not been able to pick up a conclusive trail. I'm sure alcohol levels would very much affect scent, and maybe as they drop over time, it could be confusing to the dogs. And other drugs, if used.

    Hoping they find Timothy soon for his and his family's sake.
     
  14. samara.matisse

    samara.matisse Not too political. A little cynical.

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    I'd have to look it up to be sure, but my understanding was that dogs have shown some success differentiating between chemical signatures in the waste gases (exhaled breath, flatulence) of test subjects with certain cancers versus someone who does not have cancer. I think the issue was pinpointing what it was the dogs were hitting on when they made an identification.

    I just hope that they don't discover, for example, that dogs are good at sniffing out cancer, but if you really want accuracy, you're gonna want to go for detection by tarantula or boa constrictor. :gaah:
     
  15. auburnmomof2

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    I wanted to say I totally agree with the post about the possible family dynamic. If I remember correctly his father said his texts/conversations with him in the days prior to him going missing left him feeling concerned about his son. Not an exact quote but it was along those same lines. I know that I always felt like there were certain expectations of me by family. If I were as successful as Tim and wanted to quit my job and do something that made way less money and wasn't as secure of a job as working at the cdc, my parents would have been concerned if I mentioned it to them. (trying to explain my thoughts here lol). For example, if he told them he was thinking about quitting his job and moving to the beach to work as a school teacher, they would most likely not look highly on that. This is a totally random scenario but I'm thinking maybe he did just go off the radar for a while to escape the pressure of his job and family. Many things don't point in that direction though. He is most likely very financially secure because he is single and has a great job. I am sure they are looking at his financial stuff to see if there's any clues.
    Also, I don't think the meeting with the supervisor is what was the breaking point, if there was a breaking point. Because he told the neighbor to delete his number prior to that meeting.
    These are really rambling thoughts but I can't seem to get Tim off my mind and wanted to throw out my thoughts here
     
  16. RosalindaA

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    Yes, absolutely it's what is "coming out" (in whatever way) that's the key. I remember when working in an addictions unit speaking to a very long-term alcoholic who was technically de-toxed but standing close to him and especially when you could smell his breath there was a powerful odour of a rotting smell from inside, which I can only think was internal organs starting to break down. Decomposition from the inside out. It was one way of telling when people had gone "past the point" of recovery, where no amount of abstention was going to reverse the damage.

    And definitely, you can tell from gases expelled the other end whether there is something very serious going on, or if it's a case of an infection caused diarrhoea. Maybe I should apply to be a human bloodhound, second career option! But I think we humans are mostly picking it up at a late stage and as you say samara, catching delicate scents early enough may involve visiting "more exotic creatures". It makes me think of the use of parasites that perhaps we could use to fight disease, but public acceptance, hmmmmmmmmmm!!!

    On a lighter note, I had a sweet little Bengal cat years ago who would whenever I had "the painters and decorators in" would spend quite a bit of time checking me out. Occasionally female friends/family would receive "extra attention" from her and I had to stop her when she started trying to go up skirts etc :blushing::hand:.
     
  17. Cherry

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    It is so difficult to read his thread, I hope we learn soon if he has been found. A brilliant mind and so much to live for so it would seem. Work related career stress is brutal.
     
  18. RosalindaA

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    It certainly is, I've been there myself, and it can have a very bad effect on people. Some managers seem to become power-crazed and make life very difficult for people who have a differing opinion or who question the corporate line on a particular issue. Healthcare is my background and although generally I think people in this field are a fairly tolerant lot, I have come across some who refuse to look at all the evidence available in some issues. Vaccines are a big area of contention.

    In the past big health organisations have got some matters catastrophically wrong through stubbornness and refusing to question their own judgement. You should always allow freedom of expression, a lot of things in life are just about probabilities, not certainties.
    It does make me wonder whether Timothy was being put in this position of having to choose between his own critical thinking and having a successful career. He seems like such a special person with so much more to contribute. One of my wisest former nursing sisters often used to ask carers and staff, "yes, but who's looking after you?" Someone has to look after the people who look after so many others, especially their managers.
     
  19. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    Two things are bothering me. First, it was reported "Cunningham was not seen on CDC surveillance cameras leaving the facility, nor was he captured on camera pulling his car into his garage." So has it ever been clarified whether TC ever left the facility? We assume he went home because his car was there but maybe he went to work by some other means.

    Second, it was reported TC is 5'11" and weighed 230 lbs. According to an online BMI calculator TC is obese. He works in chronic disease prevention. Obesity is a chronic disease; could he have been denied the promotion because of his weight?

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atl...ion-before-disappearance-police-say/708133686

    http://www.11alive.com/mobile/artic...dc-employee-missing-since-monday/85-519865321
     
  20. Third Coast Gal

    Third Coast Gal Well-Known Member

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    So many good points in this post. Thank you Wyle E for your always insightful words on many cases over the years.
     
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