Germany Germany - Altena-Bergfeld, WhtFem 309UFDEU, 14-22, Jun'97

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  1. Springrain

    Springrain Buckskin Girl was Marcia King

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    Unidentified Female

    Date of Discovery: Altena-Bergfeld, Germany
    Location of Discovery: June 2, 1997
    Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
    State of Remains: Unknown
    Cause of Death: Homicide
    Physical Description

    ** Listed information is approximate

    Estimated Age: 14 - 22 years old. (Most likely between 18 and 20)
    Race: RACE HERE
    Gender: Female
    Height: 154 cm - 5'1
    Weight: 45 kg - 100 lbs
    Hair Color: Auburn to dark hair
    Eye Color: Blue
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Petite build, Pale complexion, Shoe size 33/34
    Dentals: Her teeth were in good condition. She had obviously received excellent dental care. One of her upper incisors (tooth 12) had an adhesive point on it which had been attached in a professional way by creating corrosion. It was concluded that the victim might have worn some sort of ornament, possibly a diamond-like imitation (probably mass produced diamanté) with a diameter of about 2mm (0.078 inches). Investigators believe that the ornament was deliberately removed during the crime.
    Fingerprints: Not available
    DNA: Not available
    Clothing & Personal Items

    Clothing: No clothing located
    Jewelry: Unknown
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown
    Case History

    The victim was located on June 2, 1997 in wooded area in Altena-Bergfeld, Germany. She was nude.
    She had been raped, strangled and later doused with fuel and set on fire. The perpetrator made all efforts to remove any possible means of identification. Post-mortem exams showed that it is almost 100 % certain that the crime was committed by a member of the victim´s family.
     
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  3. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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  4. Cynny

    Cynny New Member

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    First time poster here, there is another recon of this girl, made in Scotland. I've no idea if I'm allowed to post the recon or only the link, so here is the link.

    http://www.derwesten.de/wr/wr-info/die-jagd-nach-dem-grausamen-moerder-geht-weiter-id5201322.html


    The text below says the girl was first abused by her father ( guess semen found matched her own DNA or something?), then strangled, and was still alive when she was set on fire :(
    They say no one reported her missing, but I wonder if they checked the surrounding countries.
     
  5. Springrain

    Springrain Buckskin Girl was Marcia King

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    Bump! :rose:
     
  6. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    This is the reconstruction mentioned above, thank you Cynny for finding it.

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  7. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Active Member

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    Thank you springrain for posting this! I just stumbled upon it trying to see if "Bella in the wych elm" was listed on the Doe Network. This case struck my heart since she was a victim of incest. The unfortunate part of those circumstances is if the perp is a family member she likely wasn't reported missing.

    It makes me wonder about other family members though, like her mother or siblings. However, they could be either aware of the crime or kept in the dark like in Anjelica Castillo's murder case. Her older cousin was her killer and his sister knew of the murder and helped dispose of the body. Anjelica's mother assumed her daughter was in Mexico with her father and never reported her missing.
     
  8. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Active Member

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    Still thinking about this case. I found another case of a incest killing. In cases that not much is known I like to look at others that are similar to possibly fill in some blanks. It is the case of Teri Jo Bradish and she was raped and murdered by her father in 1985. His motive was to cash in her life insurance so it is a bit different, but it made me think of her. The sicko claimed in court that her rape was "them having sex". Such a disturbed individual. But it leads me in a possible direction, maybe our doe was thought to be a runaway from a group home or foster home? She likely wouldn't be alarmed if her father called her and invited her out somewhere. Just a thought.
     
  9. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Active Member

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    Searched some on the doe network.

    Here are some missing from Europe:

    Nov 1995- 16 yrs old (would have been 18 in 1997) missing from Dorking in Surrey, England, United Kingdom- http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/498dfuk.html
    -suggests she lived with her father since it mentioned a step mother, so is there any other relatives that could be the perp? And there is some distance in time which makes me think its not as likely, but age, hair, height, and eye color match.

    Apr 1997- age unknown on Doe Network (another source placed her DOB in 1983 which would make her 14) missing from Bad Homburg, Germany- http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/2044dfdeu.html
    - a family abduction where the father abducted her in the middle of the night. Probable since it was a male relative that killed our doe and she is missing in Germany 2 hours from where the doe was found. Her eyes look brown in her picture though.
     
  10. MelmothTheLost

    MelmothTheLost Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how certain they are that she was Caucasian.

    It crossed my mind that she could have been light skinned Turkish and that her rape and murder could have been cultural. "Honour" based killings have been reported amongst the Turkish community in Germany.
     
  11. Triss

    Triss Active Member

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    Honour killing was the first thing that came to my mind as well. It would also explain why her family didn't report her missing.
    I think she might be Turkish or Gypsy. Poor girl, died in such a violent manner. :(
     
  12. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Active Member

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    What is an honour killing?

    Honour killings are committed within families or social groups with the purpose of controlling behaviour, reports the Honour Based Violence Awareness Network (HBVAN).

    Such murders are carried in the name of protecting cultural beliefs or honour.

    Those targeted are believed to have shamed their family or community.

    Reasons given for this can include refusing an arranged marriage, entering a relationship with someone disapproved of, renouncing faith and behaving or dressing in a way thought to be inappropriate. (being a victim of rape is also a reason)


    How common are honour killings in the UK?

    Data from the HBVAN estimates there are 12 honour killings in the UK each year.

    More than 11,000 cases of so-called honour crimes were recorded between 2010 and 2014.

    The crimes are usually aimed at women, and can include abductions and beatings.

    (source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4091357/honour-killing-karachi-murder/)


    Methods
    Methods of killing include stoning, stabbing, beating, burning, beheading, hanging, throat slashing, lethal acid attacks, shooting and strangulation.The murders are sometimes performed in public to warn the other individuals within the community of possible consequences of engaging in what is seen as illicit behavior.

    Germany
    In 2005 Der Spiegel reported: "In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been killed by family members". The article went on to cover the case of Hatun Sürücü, a Turkish-Kurdish woman who was killed by her brother for not staying with the husband she was forced to marry, and for "living like a German" . Precise statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported, said Myria Boehmecke of the Tuebingen-based women's group Terre des Femmes. The group tries to protect Muslim girls and women from oppressive families. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Hatun Sürücü's brother was convicted of murder and jailed for nine years and three months by a German court in 2006. In March 2009, a Kurdish immigrant from Turkey, Gülsüm S., was killed for a relationship not in keeping with her religious family's plan for an arranged marriage. In 2016 a Kurdish Yazidi woman was shot dead at her wedding in Hannover for allegedly refusing to marry her cousin in a forced marriage. (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing)

    • Could she have been killed by her cousin whom she was forced to marry (explaining the rape and DNA matching hers)?
    • Have authorities investigated her death as a possible honor killing?
     
  13. LucyOso

    LucyOso Verified registered nurse

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    I agree with that idea. Honor killing. Shaming the family.
     
  14. MelmothTheLost

    MelmothTheLost Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what you mean by "shaming the family". It's quite common in many Muslim countries for a girl to be raped by a male relative and for her to be blamed for her loss of chastity and killed. Even in countries that one tends to think of as moderate such as Jordan.

    Whatever the facts of the case, it's never the man's fault.
     
  15. LucyOso

    LucyOso Verified registered nurse

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    I agree. I should have put "shaming" in italics or quotes. Meaning it is the perps, cultural, or religious, or gender biased "interpretation" of "shaming" the family. It could be a something as "shameful" as a love relationship or acting "immodestly". It could also be a situation where the victim was victimised once and the family "blamed her". It is interesting that the "bling" was removed from her tooth deliberately. This is a pretty normal trend amongst millennials. My 22 year old daughter who has perfect teeth, had expensive braces, has a grill she wheres to some concerts that give her the appearance of having some gold teeth. I fully don't understand it and don't think it is overly attractive. LOL. But, "shaming" could be becoming too westernised as well. I am very culturally sensitive and a humanist, but honour killings or "shame" based killings are archaic and horrific.
     
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