GUILTY Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021

[Niner]

Friday, October 29th:
*Trial continues (Day 9) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-6 (Oct. 19, 2021-Oct. 26, 2021) reference post #70 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Oct. 27, 2021 Wednesday, Trial Day 7: No info available. Trial continues on Oct. 28, 2021.
Oct. 28, 2021 Thursday, Trial Day 8: No info available. Trial continues on Oct. 29, 2021.

 

[elliefant]

Anyone following this trial? Nothing in the news about this....

I’m not following this one but DM has an article if any use to you, Niner , and those following it
Nazi 'secretary of evil' was informed 'down to the last detail' of every murder method at camp | Daily Mail Online

 

[Niner]

Thank you for that article @elliefant !

 

[ZaZara]

Prozess um ehemalige KZ-Sekretärin: Nebenkläger streiten sich mit Richter

Itzehoe (Schleswig-Holstein) - Big trouble in the trial against concentration camp secretary Irmgard Furchner (96): Things escalated between the joint plaintiffs and the judge!

Last week, the defence of the concentration camp secretary (accused of aiding and abetting 11,380 murders in the Stutthof camp) reacted to the reading of the indictment with an opening statement.

But the request of the joint prosecutor Onur Özata (38) to also be allowed to make a statement as a replication was refused by presiding judge Dominik Groß (49): "That is not provided for in the Code of Criminal Procedure."

Attorney Özata, who represents three concentration camp survivors: "They want to silence us. We are here because our clients cannot be here."

Joint plaintiff Christoph Rückel (72): "They degrade us to mere extras."

Lawyer Mehmet Daimagüler was also outraged: "This is an impertinence. My clients want testimony to be given here. They don't want a heavy sentence for Ms Furchner."

In fact, it will now probably take weeks before the joint plaintiffs can make their first statement on the matter.

For the coming days of the trial, further expert opinions by the historian Stefan Hörtler (49, University of Göttingen) are planned ...


BBM


One would expect expert lawyers to know the law and the procedures in the trial they wanted, and not resort to drama....

 

[Niner]

Monday, November 1st:
*Trial continues (Day 10) (@ am CET) - Germany - for *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-8 (Oct. 19, 2021-Oct. 28, 2021) reference post #81 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Oct. 29, 2021 Friday, Trial Day 9-Summary of week: Last week, the court heard how SS men in white medical uniforms would pretend to be doctors who were simply measuring prisoners' height. But instead, the prisoner's height was used as the setting for a specially engineered 'neck shot' device. She had knowledge of all of the horrific events at the camp due to her work for the commandment of the camp & was informed 'down to the last detail' about the murder methods practiced there, prosecutor Maxi Wantzen told the court in the northern town of Itzehoe. She typed out the deportation & execution commands' at concentration camp commandant Paul Werner Hoppe dictation & initialed each message herself. Her boss, SS officer Hoppe, was convicted for his role at the camp & sentenced to nine years in prison by a West German court in 1957. He died in 1974. No info available. Trial continues on Monday, Nov. 1, 2021.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, November 2nd:
*Trial continues (Day 11) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-8 (Oct. 19, 2021-Oct. 29, 2021) reference post #85 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 1, 2021 Monday, Trial Day 10: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 2, 2021.

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, November 3rd:
*Trial continues (Day 12) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-10 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 1, 2021) reference post #86 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 2, 2021 Tuesday, Trial Day 11: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 3, 2021.

 

[Niner]

Thursday, November 4th:
*Trial continues (Day 13) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-11 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 2, 2021) reference post #87 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 3, 2021 Wednesday, Trial Day 12: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 4, 2021.

 

[Niner]

Friday, November 5th:
*Trial continues (Day 14) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-12 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 3, 2021) reference post #88 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 4, 2021 Thursday, Trial Day 13: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 5, 2021.

 

[ZaZara]

A friendly reminder for you, Niner.
I listened to an interview on Dutch radio with a professor of Holocaust Studies. The interview dates from October 19 and it was said that this trial is expected to last well into the summer. Irmgard Furchner will be 97 years of age then.

If there continues to be no news, perhaps you could limit your updates to weekly or even monthly?

If Irmgard Furchner survives the trial, the professor expects that she will get a suspended sentence for complicity, due to her young age at the time, and her age now - German law has a penalty from 3 to 15 years for complicity, for adults. So we are probably looking at 1-2 years suspended sentence, because she was very young and not very high in the hierarchy. The senctence should be in line with what those higher up got - and that wasn't very much at the time. The boss in whose trial she was a witness, was sentenced to 9 years in prison in 1957 and a free man after 3 years.

No one expects that IF will apply for another job as a secretary in a concentration camp, according to the professor. There are no fears or expectations that she will become a repeat offender.

 

[Niner]

@ZaZara - good idea on posting the trial - maybe weekly or even monthly IF it is going to go to summer! Since they are in court for only 2 hours a day - I can see it going that long...
Thanks for that advice!

 

[Niner]

Monday, Nov. 8th:
*Trial continues (Day 15) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-13 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 4, 2021) reference post #89 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 5, 2021 Friday, Trial Day 14: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 8, 2021.

Will start posting this only weekly on Mondays since no news outlets are giving updates on trial unless there are some developments in case.

 

[I wonder]

I know several people who are well over 100 and I feel very strongly that if justice can be done, it should be done. It also sends a very strong message to people who have committed heinous crimes, that whilst you still draw breath, that knock at the door is still possible.

 

[ZaZara]

I know several people who are well over 100 and I feel very strongly that if justice can be done, it should be done. It also sends a very strong message to people who have committed heinous crimes, that whilst you still draw breath, that knock at the door is still possible.

The case is about complicity, not about committing heinous crimes. Everybody agrees that IF did not kill anyone.

 

[ZaZara]

On second thoughts, the following:

In 1955 or thereabouts, the testimony of Irmgard Furchner helped to convict her boss. The evidence she gave, mattered because she had first-hand, detailed knowledge: she had typed out his orders.
Sixty-odd years later, that same evidence serves to bring her before the courts on charges of complicity.
One might argue that in 1955, her legal support was insufficient and allegedly lacking. An expert counsel should have struck a deal of immunity in return for her testimony there and then. Apparently that did not happen and IMO this is an important omission.

In comparison, the profile and career of a person called WVB (1912 - 1977) from Wikipedia:

He worked for the United States Army on an intermediate-range ballistic missile program, and he developed the rockets that launched the United States' first space satellite Explorer 1 in 1958.

In 1960, his group was assimilated into NASA, where he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V super heavy-lift launch vehicle that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon.[6][7] In 1967, WVB was inducted into the National Academy of Engineering, and in 1975, he received the National Medal of Science. He advocated a human mission to Mars.

His daughter Margit said about her father:

"To other people, he may be the foremost rocket engineer and scientist in the world. But to me he is the most kind, considerate, and helpful father there is. He is the best father in the world."

"He was just always a lot of fun to be around. He was always laughing," she says. "He was able to laugh a lot, and just enjoyed life. He made sure that people valued what was important."

Wernher Freiherr von Braun was a German-American aerospace engineer and space architect. He was the leading figure in the development of rocket technology in Nazi Germany.
While in his twenties and early thirties, von Braun worked in Nazi Germany's rocket development program. He helped design and co-developed the V-2 rocket at Peenemünde during World War II.

The V-2 (German: Vergeltungswaffe 2, "Retribution Weapon 2"), with the technical name Aggregat 4 (A4), was the world's first long-range guided ballistic missile. The missile, powered by a liquid-propellant rocket engine, was developed during the Second World War in Germany as a "vengeance weapon" and assigned to attack Allied cities as retaliation for the Allied bombings against German cities.

The rockets travelled at supersonic speed, impacted without audible warning, and proved unstoppable, as no effective defense existed.

According to a 2011 BBC documentary, the attacks from V-2s resulted in the deaths of an estimated 9,000 civilians and military personnel, and a further 12,000 forced laborers and concentration camp prisoners died as a result of their forced participation in the production of the weapons.


BBM

 

[Niner]

Only getting articles from Oct. 16th - so I shall continue as before.

Monday, Nov. 15th thru Friday, Nov. 19th:
*Trial continues (Days 19 to 23) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she was a typist at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-13 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 5, 2021) reference post #92 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 8, 2021 Monday, Trial Day 14: No info available. Trial continues on Nov. 9, 2021 to Friday, Nov. 12, 2021 (Days 15-18).
Nov. 15, 2021 Monday, Trial Day 19: No info yet available. Trial continues on Nov. 16, 2021 to Friday, Nov. 19, 2021 (Days 20-23).

Will start posting this only weekly on Mondays since no news outlets are giving updates on trial unless there are some developments in case.

 

[Niner]

Here's the latest article that popped up on my searches...

The 96-year-old alleged Nazi war criminal on trial in Germany

Oct. 28, 2021

Irmgard Furchner, the 96-year-old woman currently on trial in Germany for alleged Nazi war crimes committed during the Second World War, made headlines around the world on 30 September when she attempted to flee justice despite her advanced years and frail condition.

Subsequently recaptured and appearing before a court on the outskirts of Itzehoe, Schleswig-Holstein, on 19 and 26 October, Ms Furchner is accused of contributing to the murder of more than 11,412 people through her work at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 and 1945.
[.....]
Her former boss, Commandant Hoppe, was convicted for his role at the camp and sentenced to nine years in prison by a West German court in 1957. He died in 1974.

An estimated 65,000 people died in the gas chamber or of starvation, dehydration and prevalent diseases like typhus at his notorious prison on the Baltic coast between 2 September 1939 and 9 May 1945 when it was finally liberated by the Allies.
[.....]
He said the proceedings against her were “unreasonable” given her advanced age, because of which hearings have been limited to two hours a day.

Unmoved, prosecutor Maxi Wantzen said the defendant’s clerical work at Stutthof had “assured the smooth running of the camp” and gave her “knowledge of all occurrences and events at Stutthof,” including the mass killings of its captives.

The court heard the suffering of victims sent to the camp’s gas chambers, including cries and jostling at its bolted doors, would have been “clearly audible” to all in the vicinity and that there was simply no way Ms Furchner could have remained oblivious to what was taking place there.


more in article

 

[Niner]

Monday, Nov. 22nd thru Friday, Nov. 26th:
*Trial continues (Days 24 to 28) (@ am CET) - Germany - *Irmgard Furchner (18 @ time of crime/95/now 96) Indicted (Feb. 5, 2021) on 10,000 counts of accessory to murder in Nazi Camp. Fuchner is accused of having contributed as an 18-year-old to the murder of 11,412 people when she worked as a secretary, stenographer & typist to SS commandant Paul Werner Hoppe & would have had a hand in transport lists of detainees due to be sent to Auschwitz for execution, the dictation of Hoppe’s orders, radio messages & his correspondence at the Stutthof concentration camp between 1943 & 1945.
Trial began on Oct. 19, 2021. Trial is scheduled to continue over the next few months. Sessions are limited to about two hours a day, based on medical advice.
After trying to escape the trial in late September, leaving the retirement home in Quickborn where she lives & traveling by taxi to the outskirts of Hamburg, she was arrested several hours later & placed in police custody for five days before being fitted with an electronic wrist tag.
Case & court info from Feb. 5, 2021 to Sept. 29, 2021 & trial day 1-18 (Oct. 19, 2021-Nov. 12, 2021) reference post #96 here:
Germany - Woman, 95, Indicted on 10,000 Counts, Accessory to Murder, 1943-1945 Nazi Camp, 5 Feb 2021
Nov. 15, 2021 Monday, Trial Day 19: The court heard the suffering of victims sent to the camp’s gas chambers, including cries * jostling at its bolted doors, would have been “clearly audible” to all in the vicinity & that there was simply no way Ms. Furchner could have remained oblivious to what was taking place there. No other info available. Trial continues on Nov. 16, 2021 to Friday, Nov. 19, 2021 (Days 20-23).
Nov. 22, 2021 Monday, Trial Day 24: No info yet available. Trial continues on Nov. 23, 2021 to Friday, Nov. 27, 2021 (Days 24-28).


Will start posting this only weekly on Mondays since no news outlets are giving updates on trial unless there are some developments in case.

 

[Mrs Marple]

I'm not sure this trial is in public interest.

 

[Charlot123]

I'm not sure this trial is in public interest.

It is a joke. Prosecution of a 97-year old typist simply underscores how many times justice wasn’t done. What purpose does the trial of this nonagenarian serve? To punish her for being complicit? The whole country was complicit.