How do you think the ransom note compares to the Barbara Mackle ransom note?

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  1. blackcatsarecool

    blackcatsarecool Member

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    Sir, your daughter has been kidnapped by us and we now
    hold her for ransom. She is quite safe, if somewhat
    uncomfortable. We offer no proof of our possession of her
    at this time. It will arrive by mail in a few days. Barbara is
    presently alive inside a small capsule buried in a remote
    piece of soil. She has enough food and water and air to
    last seven days. At the end of the seven days the life supporting
    batteries will be discharged and her air supply will be cut off.

    The box is waterproof and very strong-fiberglass reinforced
    plywood-she has little chance of escaping. The box is in an unusual and lonely place. She has no chance of being accidently stumbled upon.

    Contemplate, if you will, the position into which this puts
    you. If you pay the ransom prior to seven days,
    we will tell you of her whereabouts. Should you catch the
    messenger we send to pick up the ransom, we will simply
    not say anything to anyone and ergo Barbara will
    suffocate. The messenger knows only one of us and he will report to us via radio from the pickup site. We will
    immediately know his fate.

    Should you catch all, of us we will never admit anything as to do
    so would be suicide and again-she will die. As you can see, you don't want to catch us for to do so would be condemning your lovely and intelligent daughter to death. The police may allow you to have a free hand prior to the return of your daughter
    should you be so callous as to contact them. If you ask the police to advise you in this matter please be aware that
    their very presence will scare us off. We can see no way for you to secure the safe return of your daughter other than to obey instructions explicitly.

    1) Although we will always anticipate the involvement of the police in this situation, be assured that if your communication with them or their actual presence is detected, we will break off negotiations with you immediately. We have tied into several
    of the possible means of communications that you have with the police and feel that you will be unable to contact them without our
    knowledge.

    2) The ransom will be $500,000 in recently issued $20 bills. Here are the requirements you must meet in this matter:
    The notes must not be older than 1950 issue.
    No more than ten notes must have consecutive serial numbers; ie., the notes must have a great variety of serial-numbers and not be merely shuffled.
    The notes must be Federal Reserve notes of standard configuration.

    No more than one-half of the notes may be uncirculated.

    No form of marking on the bills is acceptable. Please note that the bills will undergo a minimum of eight hours of intense examination before we allow you to have knowledge of the subject's whereabouts. We have planned a series of 44 tests on a large representative of the bills. These tests include every chemical and physical test of any remote applicability.


    No omission, shaving, spotting, cutting, counterfeiting, irradiating, ad nos will go undetected.

    3) The bills should occupy no more than 400 cubic inches and thusly fit into a standard large suitcase of inside dimensions 31.5" longx18.75" highx6.25" deep. Purchase such a suitcase and lock the bills inside.
    When you have the money in readiness, call all the Miami
    area major newspapers and place the following ad in the "personal" section of the classified advertisemsnts:

    "Loved one-please come home. We will pay all expenses
    and meet you anywhere at anytime. Your Family."

    Prepare your car for a trip and on the night of the ad's first appearance we will call you at home after midnight to advise you of where you must go to deliver the money. You must be the one to deliver the money, Robert. You will dress yourself in an all-white outfit. You must use the Lincoln to deliver the money.

    In order to prevent the instructional call being traced it will be very brief and no portion of it will be repeated. If the phone rings more than three times or the connection takes longer than 15 seconds we will not contact you. You will have a limited period of time to make the rendezvous so you should be ready to leave your house within one minute of receiving the phone call in order to be within the time limit. You will proceed to the area of the meeting within the legal speed limit as if you were in no hurry. We will not meet you if you fail to show within the time limit which is only a short time longer than you will require to drive to the pickup site. Any unusual police activity or other activity in the area of the pick up will cancel the appointment.

    When you arrive at the pick up site you will know it by a signal of three short flashes repeated continuously from a flashlight directed at the windshield of your car. When you see the signal you will stop the car and immediately take the suitcase toward the light. The light will be mounted on the top of a box. The suitcase should be placed within the box. You will then return to your car and proceed back up the street, in the direction from which you came and go home.

    Any deviation from this outline will result in your death.
    Our messenger will have you in his sights from the time you leave your car. Within twelve hours after you deliver the money you will receive another call advising you of your daughter's whereabouts. A letter will be sent also to insure the findings of your daughter.

    Excerpt copied from JonBenét Ramsey and Barbara Mackle ransom notes a forensic text comparison
     
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  2. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, blackcat, for posting the Barbara Mackle RN.

    The similar multiple phrases cannot be denied. This seems to imply that the author of JBRs RN was well-aware of Barbara's RN so much so that they were able to interject common demands, lines and phrases.

    It's been a wonder that someone would take the time to compose a lengthy RN for a kidnapping that never took place other than to project innocence upon the parents.

    Comparing these two RNs, implies JBs death may have been a premeditated murder.

    In recent years, we've come to learn in world affairs about the prevalence of Satanic Rituals and Satanic Sacrifices.

    Didn't JR's daughter, Beth, experience flashbacks of Satanic Rituals before her untimely death?
     
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  3. midwest mama

    midwest mama Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know if the Barbara Mackle case was mentioned in "Mindhunter"? I agree with your opinions DeDee, and, yes, there was an old article, IIFC, that talked about Beth's flashbacks. Perhaps a statement from one of her college friends?
     
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  4. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    Hope to find that.
     
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  6. midwest mama

    midwest mama Well-Known Member

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    Maybe in one of Singulars articles?
     
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  7. midwest mama

    midwest mama Well-Known Member

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    My post on Feb 8, 2013 in thread "JDI - A Possible Prosecution" has more info on this. Also, Google led me to another WS post that references a Rocky Mountain News article in 1997 with this claim.
     
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  8. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mm
    I'll have a look-see.
     
  9. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    The Longest Night (1972) TV Movie



    (begins w/ Father Chase)
    @30:58 Alright I'm listening ...
    he better be ready for my call tonight
    if he wants to see her again ...

    ... (31:40) so he's to follow instructions, to the letter.
    ....Follow instructions exactly or she'll die. ...

    (32:14)We'll be in constant communication with the driver of the car at all times ...

    ...(33:00)I intend to follow the instructions in the ransom note, to the letter, in every particular.

    ...(37:27)and we've examined it to make sure it hasn't been marked in any way …

    (37:48) Now let me remind you Mr. Chambers,
    if there is the slightest deviation from my instructions, any police or FBI involvement or if you don't show on time...
    now do you have my instructions, straight?

    (40:13) Just about eight more minutes,
    we are going to be members of the 'idle rich', hahaha.
     
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    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    the 'remake', 83 Hours 'Til Dawn (TV Movie 1990),
    veers from the original storyline

     
  11. midwest mama

    midwest mama Well-Known Member

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    The Mackle case happened in Atlanta a week before Christmas 1968. She was 20 years old and said to be beautiful. JR was 25 at the time, married to Lucinda, and would become a new Dad in 1999 to Elizabeth, just as they were settling into a new 8 year Navy Reserve assignment, based in Atlanta upon their return from Subic Bay, and JRs discharge from his 3 year commitment to the Navy after OCS.

    IMO, the time frame allows for JR to have been able to be very well informed of all the Mackle case public disclosures, since it would surely have been big news in Atlanta at that time.
     
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