How does the *advertiser censored* play into Hailey being missing?

[Knox]

Soul, I would think any LEO who is part of the Hailey Task Force (CCPD, MCSO, TR, FBI) could write and request a warrant. If Flournoy is the one with the computer/IT experience it makes sense he would be the one to make the request. Not sure though?

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Agree. And if any of this *advertiser censored* was connected to Hailey in any way, if they found her image on any of it, he would already be in jail and charged. My guess is there is nothing whatsoever to link this child *advertiser censored* to Hailey's disappearance, it's a totally separate case. LE might stall when it comes to investigating *advertiser censored* cases, but not when there is a missing child involved. There is just no connection to the two cases, IMO.

I do believe if Hailey's recognizable image had appeared in any pornographic images found, folks would have been arrested on the spot.
To have over 100,000 images of *advertiser censored* is odd, to say the very least.
I do not, however, believe that Hailey's disappearance has nothing to do with the *advertiser censored* found. I think the three things, (Haileys disappearance, *advertiser censored* and drug use) are all intertwined and relate to one another.JMO.

 

[SailorMoon]

I found his site confusing and I'm not sure how a private citizen with no access to search warrant information about people's computer activity etc. would uncover a vast child *advertiser censored* ring but if any of you do, IMO the thing to do is to report it to various enterprises that exist for reporting that sort of thing, rather than complain about it and warn the presumed perps on your website. If the local police doesn't take it seriously maybe the state police or the FBI will, and if they think you're a kook too maybe you can get various charities involved in helping missing and exploited children to verify your data and exert some pressure on the authorities.

FWIW - I live in the county where he made most of his claim to fame and is from. It is what it is, is my answer. He can get a spot light to some things, that's for sure.

 

[Oriah]

AT first was optimistic and hoping for a fresh set of eyes and ears.....I thought, hmm, maybe he is on to something.......but after following him and then his recent flurry of activity on FB and 'radio' shows...I think he is just ......on something.

Interviewed PT...really, PT??? there a bonafide whac...........ah never mind

...job.

Hailey- where are you, honey? We have NOT given up on finding you.

 

[Velouria]

FWIW - I live in the county where he made most of his claim to fame and is from. It is what it is, is my answer. He can get a spot light to some things, that's for sure.

BBM

That's just it, SailorMoon. Exactly what IS it? :waitasec:

I've read what this guy has to say and I'm still not convinced that he's credible, much less established a solid link to Hailey's disappearance.

 

[TxLady2]

I do believe if Hailey's recognizable image had appeared in any pornographic images found, folks would have been arrested on the spot.
To have over 100,000 images of *advertiser censored* is odd, to say the very least.
I do not, however, believe that Hailey's disappearance has nothing to do with the *advertiser censored* found. I think the three things, (Haileys disappearance, *advertiser censored* and drug use) are all intertwined and relate to one another.JMO.

Well, it could be intertwined to the extent that Hailey was living there while they had this *advertiser censored* in their possession... she may have even found some of it or looked at it. But I don't believe she was involved in any of it or there would be some arrests made by now.
I agree that is a lot of *advertiser censored*, and I know it takes time to go through all of it, but if Shawn is still their main suspect, why on earth is he still walking around free? I could be wrong but I think they should have enough to arrest him by now. What's the holdup?
But... maybe they're waiting for that connection to the two cases and it's just not there.

 

[concernedmother]

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=422667
Investigators Still Waiting on Child *advertiser censored* Results in Hailey Dunn Case
Tuesday, October 11 2011
How long does it take? Why is it taking them so long to figure anything out?

 

[q64ceo]

I dont think *advertiser censored* had anything to do with this case.

You take the regular average Joe and ask him what his favorite *advertiser censored* is, and he will lie through his teeth.

A LOT of men have favorite fetishes. From the disgusting like masturbating into someone's panties, to the strange like erotic lactation, to the downright scary like incest, these are very popular *advertiser censored* genres. Now, not all of these men are rapists/murderers. They just like to fantasize about something different.

As for the one image of child *advertiser censored*, there isnt much to speculate on. What kind of child *advertiser censored*? Are we talking about pre-teen, adolescent *advertiser censored*? Are we talking about boarderline 16-17 year old self taken pictures? You cannot judge a man simply by one pic out of 100,000.

 

[Tugela]

People got fixated on the *advertiser censored* because they wanted to validate their belief that he was responsible for HD being gone, and so for them it made sense even though there was no evidence of that.

But it was clear from the start that any connection between SA and CP was tenous at best. If he was heavily into it they would have found tons, but they found nothing where he lived, a single maybe at the grandmothers house (where he apparently did most of his computing) based on similarities to other images (in other words it probably was not *advertiser censored* at all), and some deleted images in conjunction with a much larger collection of different types of *advertiser censored* on the computer at the mothers house. They never did say how many CP images they found. They allways mentioned the total number, as if to imply that most or all was CP even though they knew better.

SA didn't live at the mothers house, and probably didn't use the computer there all that much, so it is far more likely that the collection belonged to one of the males who lived in the house, most likely the teenager. Based on the description it would seem that whoever downloaded that stuff was looking at a wide range of general *advertiser censored* probably obtained from public sources such as usenet or torrent sites. The stuff that didnt interest them but got downloaded anyway (they wouldnt be able to tell what was in the images until they looked at them) would then have been deleted. Whoever it was obviously wasn't trying to hide the fact that they had looked at those pictures, if they were they would have shredded the files, not deleted them.

That would have been the simplest more obvious explanation for what was found, but for whatever reason (incompetence ranks high IMO) LE refused to consider that and instead opted for the more tenous unlikely scenario. So, in the end, they found nothing because there was nothing. Other than spectacular incompetence the only other explanation was that it was an attempt to put pressure on SA and those around him by making the CP accusations even though they knew it was groundless. That sort of thing is poor police work IMO, and the type of mindset that leads to false convictions, where LE let their theories determine what evidence they collect or not collect, and how they interpret that evidence. The proper way for solid police work is to follow the evidence with an open mind and let that speak for itself. But they seem to be doing it the wrong way around in CC.

 

[Hatch]

I'm not a BD fan by any means and I don't doubt BD knew about the child *advertiser censored*. I think she and SA sold it for profit. But I have trouble wrapping my brain around her looking at it for purposes of sexual gratification. Is this what you mean by belonged to them both?

I think BD totally got gratification from child *advertiser censored*, she was soooo into SA and if that is what SA got off on ,then IMO so did she !
There are just as many women involved in child *advertiser censored* as men !
Given the deviant,horror of their hobbies , it would not surprise me if this was a group effort whatever happened to HD ! Maybe a deviant or devil worship sacrifice !

And yes I agree there is a lot we dont know, and probably a good thing, sane people cannot grasp this horror merriment that these kind of folks are into.
JMHO

 

[Tugela]

I think BD totally got gratification from child *advertiser censored*, she was soooo into SA and if that is what SA got off on ,then IMO so did she !
There are just as many women involved in child *advertiser censored* as men !
Given the deviant,horror of their hobbies , it would not surprise me if this was a group effort whatever happened to HD ! Maybe a deviant or devil worship sacrifice !

And yes I agree there is a lot we dont know, and probably a good thing, sane people cannot grasp this horror merriment that these kind of folks are into.
JMHO

There is nothing connecting either BD or SA with child *advertiser censored*, or anything to suggest that either of them were in any way interested in that.

 

[Hatch]

Have I missed something somewhere? Has there been a confirmed for the record statement there was NO images of child *advertiser censored* on any devices !!
I read places it is said to be the truth ,then it is disputed ! WTH WE just need a yes or a no ! Please:waitasec::waitasec:

 

[Tugela]

This is what Alexander, the "lead detective" on the case from CC has to say about that:

"Images depicting bestiality and other deviant sexual acts may be disgusting, she said, but as long as they're not being done in public, they're not illegal. No child *advertiser censored* was seized in Colorado City, she said."

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/dec/27/gone-a-year-colorado-city-teenagers-disapperance/

There have been similar reports elsewhere that no CP was found at BD's home. Also, if it had been, it would have been mentioned in the afidavit for sure, and it wasn't.

The original reports quoting the sheriff as saying that there was were either misquoting him (and subsequent reports simply repeating the misquote in other contexts to make it look like new quotes) or he was delibrately trying to pervert justice. Repackaging old news of dubious accuracy commonly passes for journalism these days, so it is possible that is what happened. But whatever the case there isnt any doubt that there was no CP in BD's house.

If the sheriff really did say that when he knew it wasn't true then he is probably liable for civil damages.

 

[Soulmagent]

This is what Alexander, the "lead detective" on the case from CC has to say about that:


http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/dec/27/gone-a-year-colorado-city-teenagers-disapperance/

There have been similar reports elsewhere that no CP was found at BD's home. Also, if it had been, it would have been mentioned in the afidavit for sure, and it wasn't.

The original reports quoting the sheriff as saying that there was were either misquoting him (and subsequent reports simply repeating the misquote in other contexts to make it look like new quotes) or he was delibrately trying to pervert justice. Repackaging old news of dubious accuracy commonly passes for journalism these days, so it is possible that is what happened. But whatever the case there isnt any doubt that there was no CP in BD's house.

If the sheriff really did say that when he knew it wasn't true then he is probably liable for civil damages.

Ugh I coulld scream. I really really cannot stand reading any crap CC spits out anymore. I do not think however he was tring to prevent justice. I believe the dept made up their mind as to who was guilty from the get and set the stage they wanted.