ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 55

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Folks, it is only member speculation that these killings could be the work of a serial killer.

Please leave Bundy and the rest of that mottley crew out of this discussion until/unless LE indicates there could be a SK at work here.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

The "public's right to know" discussion has derailed this thread for pages now. That is a social justice issue (which will never be solved via discussion at Websleuths) ... when the actual topic of this discussion is the tragic killing of 4 young adults.

Move on to discuss the actual case.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

If you aren't sure if a source is approved, please seek approval before discussing any of the content. It makes thread cleanup so much more difficult and time-consuming when Mods have to go through pages and pages of posts to remove the OP and all the responses, and responses to those responses, etc.

Just as an example, yesterday out of many, many pages of Reports, just 2 pages alone were 40 Reports with 38 of them relating to this discussion alone. Mods are swamped with this discussion. Please don't make things more difficult for them.

Thank you.

ETA: Also, please move on from the discussion as to whether E was or was not drunk as there is nothing to substantiate either way. It is speculation that is not based on any known fact, and is not victim friendly. As per TOS:

"Discussing known victim behavior, good or bad is fine, but do so in a civil and constructive way, and only when such behavior is known to be relevant to the case."

The qualifying word in the above is "known".

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Move on from the psychopathy discussion please. It is off topic speculation not based on any known fact. None of us even knows who this person is, let alone be in a position to diagnose them.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

We've been asked as to whether we will allow the leaked image of the girls talking with the individual at the Corner Club before they left for the Grub Truck. Half the true crime sleuthing world has probably seen the leaked image by now, so it is allowed for reasonable discussion.

Just because the girls are talking to one of many individuals in a popular public venue does not make that person a POI or suspect. This person could be totally innocent and, as they have not been officially named POI or suspect, we won't allow him to be publicly sleuthed or dragged through the mud with direct or indirect accusations. Members can sleuth away all they like behind the scenes, in private or in group conversation with other members, but NO public sleuthing of that person, attempts to publicly name or identify name him or post any personal or identifying information.

Post respectfully and responsibly. Any questions, jump off any post to Report and ask your question.

Thanks !!

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE:

From the social media rules (linked below):

ALLOWED SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES

Individuals
Victim (missing or murdered person)
Suspect (as officially named by LE)

• Links may be used to direct members to posts made by a victim or a suspect.
• Paraphrasing is okay, but direct quotes, copying/pasting, screenshots from these pages is not allowed.
• NOTE: Comments and posts by Friends on these pages are not allowed to be linked, quoted, copied or referenced. They are considered rumor. Just don't mention them.

The suspect's REDDIT account (and ONLY the suspect's Reddit account) is approved. Just don't screenshot, or copy and paste.

ETA: The account was suspended shortly after this was posted. We have no way of knowing why this happened, and no way to know whether it will be reinstated at some point. Because the source is no longer available, discussion of the contents is not allowed.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

STOP with the discussion of various mental health disorders.

The ONLY thing we are aware of at this time is that his family members made reference to OCD. Beyond that we know nothing about this man's mental health or any diagnosis, so it is all speculation not based on any known fact.

 

[CocoChanel]

Yes.
Am I allowed to post the link here?

ADMIN NOTE
PLEASE DO NOT ASK RULES QUESTIONS ON THE THREAD.
Instead, send a Report (link at the bottom left of any post) to ask a staff member.
Posting on the thread is OFF TOPIC and risks getting unofficial and inaccurate answers.
THANK YOU

 

[CocoChanel]

Bryan Kohberger's Family: Parents MaryAnn & Michael Kohberger

MaryAnn Kohberger is the mother of Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger. Michael Kohberger is Kohberger's father. Learn more about the suspect's parents.

heavy.com

“Kohberger’s mother and father filed for bankruptcy twice, according to federal court records accessed through the Pacer website. Thomas Arntz, a former high school friend of Kohberger’s, told Daily Beast that his mother was a substitute teacher and his father worked in maintenance, calling them “genuinely kind people.”

**Im not sure Heavy is an approved news source, but I’ve seen this reported in several news articles.

ADMIN REMINDER:
Heavy.com is an approved source for WS.
HOWEVER, we can ONLY discuss what is written in the approved article.
We CANNOT speculate or pose questions that prompt further sleuthing of the family.

CocoChanel
Administrator

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN REMINDER

Please remember that under Websleuths Victim Friendly policy, the family of the accused are considered innocent victims until/unless MSM or LE indicate otherwise.

Do not sleuth family members or insinuate that they have knowledge of the crime or any other responsibility or involvement in it unless it becomes a known fact.

Thanks !!

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Move on from the incel discussion folks. It is strictly speculation not based on any known fact and other members and guests don't come here to read the same discussion/debate over and over again.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey folks,

We aren't here to trash the heck out of a poem someone wrote. If you wish to discuss the poem, please simply discuss it in the context of how it may relate directly to the case at hand.

On another note, we appreciate members keeping on eye on the posts and alerting us to what they think could be violations of TOS, but please remember there is a difference between discussing what is in MSM vs actual sleuthing of family members.

If there is something in MSM about a friend or family member or whoever .. it is fine to discuss what is said in MSM about them or what they say in MSM. That is simply discussion and members are allowed to offer their speculative opinion about that content. By contrast, sleuthing is going beyond what in said in MSM and digging up other information about that person (i.e. addresses, where they work, what they do, driver's licence, background information, etc) when they are not a POI or suspect. THAT is what is not allowed under TOS.

Any questions, please use the Report feature to jump off any post and ask away.

Thanks.

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE:

We haven't seen a diagnosis, or even an indication that the accused will be seeking a diagnosis, of mental illness - so mental health is off topic. Move on, please.

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE:

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[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

If you take a still shot from a previously linked video, we'd still appreciate a link to the source be provided. It's one of those grey areas in copyright law, and while probably permissable under "fair use" policy, it isn't something Websleuths wants the hassle of dealing with if there is a complaint.

Thanks for taking the time to just add a link to avoid any repurcussions.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Just a friendly reminder,

If you are going to post a photo and/or screenshot, an approved source link MUST BE INCLUDED! Otherwise, it and any responses to it will be removed.

This is the appropriate way of including a source link: Live

This is not the appropriate way of including a source link:


Thanks!
Mad

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

For many threads now, it's in the Opening Posts, and members have been instructed not to speculate on Kohberger's mental health. Such speculation is not based on any KNOWN fact.

Maybe he has bipolar or Aspergers, or schizophrenia, autism, ADHD, psychopathy/sociopathy, narcissism, or one of the other hundreds of potential diagnoses ... the list goes on and on. Somebody always bickers over specifics or gets upset about whatever, and Mods spend hours cleaning up the off topic discussion.

Do NOT clutter this discussion with speculation on specific mental health issues that are currently unknown or your post will be removed and there may be a loss of posting privileges.

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE:

Knock off the victim blaming. The surviving roommates are VICTIMS. Just knock it off. Zero tolerance - timeouts will be issued.

Knitty

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is closed for the next few hours until a Mod comes on in the morning and so there won't be another 100 Reports to deal with before they've even had a cup of coffee.

Please just jump off any post to ask to have the thread reopened.