ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 49

[kittythehare]

IMO, it is a diversion plane to keep sleuthers off the trail. The plane that that is transporting BK to Idaho would not be known to us. LE, FBI govt would not want the flight info advertised to maintain the safety of the transport team.

Realistically, he's not the head of ISIS and while I do think it's not irrational to imagine a few would be happy to take a pot shot at him are we really sure he's not travelling commercially or by road?

 

[ansrali]

Is it likely there is bathroom on this flight?

Via the wiki entry for the Pilatus PC-12:
"The cabin can accommodate up to nine passengers and has a refreshment centre, an enclosed lavatory, and a rear baggage area. Other cabin configurations include executive arrangements, seating between six and eight passengers; a four-seat passenger-cargo combi layout; and an air ambulance setup housing two litters and three attending medics."

 

[darkesleuth]

Is it likely there is bathroom on this flight?

Yes, all PC-12's have a bathroom, unless this plane was modified for PA and it was removed.

 

[tara83]

Where is this clear evidence? We want to see it! Do you have a link to that clear evidence?

They aren't allowed to release detasils right now.

 

[SteveP]

IMO, it is a diversion plane to keep sleuthers off the trail. The plane that that is transporting BK to Idaho would not be known to us. LE, FBI govt would not want the flight info advertised to maintain the safety of the transport team.

Respectfully, any thought that a diversion plane is being used to mask the transport of this guy is the stuff of Hollywood movies. In this day and age, with the level of danger this guy is to the general public at this point (none), and with the cost of fuel and the manhours it would require, there is no way a diversion plane is flying from Pennsylvania to Idaho. This guy is NOT a threat to anyone anymore. He is being escorted by multiple armed guards, and he is no doubt cuffed and shackled. And likewise, no one is going to attempt to bring the plane down, overtake it, and set him free. JMO

 

[Elley Mae]

Ugh. This is the longest flight of my life.

He would probably like it to last longer.

 

[McMonk1]

Idk

Imo no way did either Indiana officer know about the connection between the suspect and the murders. Very dangerous situation to pull over someone suspected in a vicious quadruple murder. I go back and forth but in the end it comes down to it being a too potentially dangerous for a single officer to effect a stop if the suspect did, say, lose his cool and pull a gun or even use his car as a deadly object.

 

[cottonweaver]

Windows are not tinted.

good catch ( didn't notice it until now)
Also do you see how he uses the ' I'm studying criminal justice' to try and divert or manipulate the cop?
He didn't need to say what he's actually studying

Very intense gaze again.

 

[RockyMtnWay_406]

Whoever I scoffed at for saying the plane would have to stop for fuel, I'm sorry.

 

[positive]

He could have been on unpaid leave for a while, till is ckear where this goes. But here are obvious efforts to destroy him before even is known what they have against him.

Destroy? He was arrested for quadruple 1st degree homicide. I do not understand. The University would continue employment after that? I am completely uneducated so if you could please elaborate? I just don't follow.

 

[SteveP]

Is it likely there is bathroom on this flight?

Depends...

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Yes, there is one.

 

[Copper107]

I absolutely agree, these stops were played beautifully. They had him under surveillance and knew of his whereabouts at all times as the drive to PA was being done. I think they stopped him to just get eyes on him as well as see his reaction or what his state of mind would be.

IMO, they were likely asked to stop the suspect (slow his roll), so as to coordinate and position the surveillance teams that were following him. One team drops off and another moves in to continue, etc. You can't have the same vehicle following him for over 2000 miles without possibly alerting the suspect. IMO various teams were used throughout this complicated task and it took a lot of inter-agency coordination. JMO

 

[Chelly]

Not if it’s that little plane from the flight tracker. He’ll need an empty bottle.

If they are using the airport for both fuel and bathroom breaks, would LE have to clear the terminal area to escort BK to bathroom?

ETA: Just saw @darkesleuth post stating all PC-12's are equipped with bathrooms. Oh...the things I wonder about!

 

[McMonk1]

Idk

Imo no way did either Indiana officer know about the connection between the suspect and the murders. Very dangerous situation to pull over someone suspected in a vicious quadruple murder. I go back and forth but in the end it comes down to it being a too potentially dangerous for a single officer to effect a stop if the suspect did, say, lose his cool and pull a gun or even use his car as a deadly object. Now it’s possible they worked with a profiler who was certain a stop in this situation would be okay, but how can one know for certain.

 

[darkesleuth]

Is it likely there is bathroom on this flight?

Yes, all PC-12's have a bathroom, unless this plane was modified for PA and it was removed.

The PC-12 potty is right behind the pilots, in front of the front row of seats, on the right side.

 

[10ofRods]

I genuinely thought that they would just do a formal suspension.

IDK if he has any contract with WSU, for example, to cover his role as a teaching assistant so idk if employment law applies.

Nearly every teaching contract I've seen, but especially for TA's, says "subject to available funds and barring revisions in the schedule...you will be teaching." Or "this contract is not a guarantee of actual employment in any particular semester."

I would guess they have by now rescinded his contract. Most teachers' unions and grad student unions have clauses about "moral turpitude" as well. Being charged with 4 homicides more than meets the criteria for most states, IMO.

 

[jumpingjackflash]

Not directed at OP but my observation where the images of BK at his hearing are from 51 days after the murders.

Seriously, I don't think it reasonable to attribute every mark or discoloration on his body as injuries sustained when BK allegedly stabbed 4 sleeping students. This makes no sense to me! JMO

Agree. While I think his right hand looks swollen in both the traffic stop footage and the video from the extradition hearing, I don't think it follows that the swelling is (necessarily) directly related to the killings. I would, however, wager that it is indirectly related. Inflammation from punching a wall. An infection. A stress response.

 

[TheBorez]

That body cam footage from the first stop… BK’s mouth is so dry it made ME thirsty. Going to get some Thai food and the way he keeps looking at his Dad… SUS.

 

[justwannahelp]

Universities operate under different standards for student conduct expectations. Those standards are higher than just simply "don't get arrested." You are expected to be (and agree with your admission request) to conduct yourself with respect towards others and your community. University administrators can separate him from the university based on his being a threat to health and safety of their community. I am sure it's a decision the university's general counsel is willing to take based on the notoriety of the case and the evidentiary standard used to get the probable cause warrant to arrest BCK in PA. What happens if he gets exonerated? Small chance of that, but then maybe, just maybe, he could argue he was separated from WSU for an unjust and unwarranted reason. It's a risk WSU is willing to take, IMO.

Not arguing with you. Just thinking out loud. If he’s exonerated then i imagine he could go back. But for the time being there’s no point in keeping him on as a student - innocent or not innocent, he can’t attend classes and he can’t get his phd in jail.

Also, it’s possible the criminology professor knows a little more of what they have on him or has put together some loose ends herself simply from knowing and teaching and working with him. She may have shared these things with the the higher ups and of course law enforcement. They higher ups at the university may already KNOW know he’s guilty. But again, even if they don’t, he can’t participate so what’s the point of calling him a student for this semester?

If found innocent i suppose they would consider taking him back. But i doubt he’d return to that university….

 

[Cindizzi]

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