ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #66

[Patch Tuesday]

Police searching for Rexburg children believed to be in serious danger | East Idaho News

I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface. The children's mother (Lori Wallows) recently married a man (Chad Daybell) a few weeks after his wife died. It was presumed the late wife had died of natural causes but was exhumed recently and her death is now being investigated.
The new wife's husband was shot in a family argument earlier this year:

Chandler Police identify man who was shot dead during family fight

The husband and wife are not cooperating with police and have since vanished.

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS* NO DISCUSSION #2

ID - Joshua Vallow & Tylee Ryan, Rexburg, Sept 2019 - TIMELINE ONLY *NO DISCUSSION*

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[Sillybilly]

OFF TOPIC BUT IMPORTANT

There seems to be some confusion and concerns being expressed about Timeline posts not being linked in the Opening Posts.

Mods, Admins, Coordinators ... we've all had discussion about this over the last year and we just don't know why or when members started requesting WS staff to make all these additions and changes to the Opening Posts of new threads. We are a very limited staff and this is something members have historically done on their own that doesn't create any extra work for WS staff.

It is a very simple system that was set up years ago and has worked well in the past. We don't need to duplicate effort or reinvent the wheel here.

In each forum, i.e. "Located Persons Discussion", members will see at the top of the page, a sub forum called for example "Located Timeline and Media Links"

As you can see, any member can start an appropriately titled new timeline thread within such a forum and make or copy their Timeline posts and all subsequent revisions or updates into that thread. It can be titled something like Vallow & Daybell Media, Maps & Timeline (or just Vallow & Daybell Timeline thread if they want to keep it separate and apart from Media and Maps). If the thread gets titled Media, Maps and Timelines, all members have to do is use the search feature within that thread for the word Timeline. That's what these features are for.

When a member has created the Timeline thread, WS staff link it ONCE in the Opening Post and it never has to be changed again, regardless of whether it's 1 or 100 new discussion threads for any given case.

If there is any question about the above, please contact any Mod or Admin and we'll be glad to clarify.

If nobody else is going to do it for this case, when one of us gets time (not sure when that will be), we will set up the timeline thread for you in this case and copy all of Gardener1850's timeline posts into it. We will update the link in the Opening Post and it will never have to change after that.

Truly hope this clarifies.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Mommacass has now been verified as a family member. We'll leave it to mommacass if they wish to share how they factor into the family relationships in this case.

As a verified member, mommacass does not have to provide links to the information they provide. You may ask mommacass questions but it is up to them whether they answer or not.

Please be respectful to them at all times and do not argue with them or badger them for information.

 

[CocoChanel]

MOD NOTE
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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Please review The Rules regarding copyright and paywalls.

Circumventing paywall/subscription articles is a violation of copyright law. IOW, if you're expected to pay for it, well ... you're expected to pay for it.

Please get back on track discussing the case itself. Thanks !!

 

[YaYa_521]

Continue the discussion here.

 

[MTW2011]

Anyone wanna take bets (ofc just tongue-in-cheek) here whether the Court will DENY Archibald’s Motion to send anything back to Grand Jury for redetermination of probable cause?

I think it’ll be DENIED. But I also think, if that is the case, that will only help a potential future appeal. If combining “unrelated” charges into a single count in which there isn’t an actual punishment prescribed in their State law isn’t worth something of (maybe limited) appellate value, then they still do have her forcing speedy trial and being forced (or as Defense would likely argue) “denied or deprived of that Constitutional right” which I’ve been concerned about ever since that ruling was made.

For those who care about justice, as so much of the community does, I don’t think it matters to many if they get a conviction at the District Court level only to be appealed later on, and possibly successful, on some alleged Constitutional rights violations (for Lori, since he waived his right to speedy trial).

 

[Pitsleuth]

Hi all. I’m new to WS. Trying to catch up fully on this case (and so many others). I’ve been searching for the past 2 days through all the threads and can’t seem to find the official cause of death for Tylee and JJ? I’m sorry to have to ask this if it is already known… but was one ever released? I’m exhausted from searching

 

[indicolite22]

Hi all. I’m new to WS. Trying to catch up fully on this case (and so many others). I’ve been searching for the past 2 days through all the threads and can’t seem to find the official cause of death for Tylee and JJ? I’m sorry to have to ask this if it is already known… but was one ever released? I’m exhausted from searching

The autopsy results for Tylee and JJ have not been released. Just like with Tammy's, the authorities are likely saving this information for the trial. Tammy's COD only leaked because of her children who were notified in private. Nate Eaton said on yesterday's NG podcast that his source corroborated it.

Welcome to WS!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Regarding Chad's children. I know a couple of Mormon couples and family is everything. I realize I'm judging on 2 families. There are plenty of non LDS families like that. I mean, they're almost clannish in the sense most of their friends are immediate family. I just feel like the Daybell offspring have been programmed "family above all".

 

[indicolite22]

Regarding Chad's children. I know a couple of Mormon couples and family is everything. I realize I'm judging on 2 families. There are plenty of non LDS families like that. I mean, they're almost clannish in the sense most of their friends are immediate family. I just feel like the Daybell offspring have been programmed "family above all".

They must not have read that part of Chad's romance novel to Lori where he compares himself to Harry Potter and states that his family makes him feel trapped.

 

[Kemug]

Regarding Chad's children. I know a couple of Mormon couples and family is everything. I realize I'm judging on 2 families. There are plenty of non LDS families like that. I mean, they're almost clannish in the sense most of their friends are immediate family. I just feel like the Daybell offspring have been programmed "family above all".

However, Chad thinks it doesn't apply to wives.

 

[887sMtreme]

Seems awfully quiet. Nothing new? I've been having trouble navigating automatically as usual to this new thread. Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe it's just ***quiet***

 

[montegrl]

new filings in CD's case:

• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  to Intervene
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  to Unseal
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  for Injunctive Relief
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion
  
  
  

 

[montegrl]

Those are also in LV's case, that is really interesting:

• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  to Intervene
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  to Unseal
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Motion
  Comment
  for Injunctive Relief
• 07/30/2022 Declaration in Support of Motion
• 07/30/2022 Memorandum In Support of Motion

 

[Laughing]

Seems awfully quiet. Nothing new? I've been having trouble navigating automatically as usual to this new thread. Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe it's just ***quiet***

This hasn't changed since we learned their names:


kutv.com

kutv.com

kutv.com

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Kemug]

So the Daybell "kids" think that Alex could have buried Tylee and JJ in the backyard at any time, because it wasn't visible from the house? They don't think that Alex might not have wanted to take that risk if Chad didn't know anything about it, and have chosen somewhere more remote and secluded?

 

[montegrl]

@Niner, new hearing scheduled:
This is CD's case

• 08/03/2022 Notice of Hearing
• 08/16/2022 Motion Hearing
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  
  
  
  And this is LV's case:
  
  08/03/2022 Notice of Hearing
  08/03/2022 Order to Transport
  08/16/2022 Motion Hearing
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  
  
  
  

 

[des2021]

@Niner, new hearing scheduled:
This is CD's case

• 08/03/2022 Notice of Hearing
• 08/16/2022 Motion Hearing
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  
  
  
  And this is LV's case:
  
  08/03/2022 Notice of Hearing
  08/03/2022 Order to Transport
  08/16/2022 Motion Hearing
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  
  
  

So does this mean Chad and Lori will finally be in the same room together after all of this time?

 

[MTW2011]

Who do (asking my fellow WSers) files the Motion to Intervene recently? It was followed by a Motion for Injunctive Relief, too.

Editing to add: snipped from Idaho Court site when you search the case, this is part of the docket entries