Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #38

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  1. Patch Tuesday

    Patch Tuesday Well-Known Member

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    Police searching for Rexburg children believed to be in serious danger | East Idaho News

    I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface. The children's mother (Lori Wallows) recently married a man (Chad Daybell) a few weeks after his wife died. It was presumed the late wife had died of natural causes but was exhumed recently and her death is now being investigated.
    The new wife's husband was shot in a family argument earlier this year:

    Chandler Police identify man who was shot dead during family fight

    The husband and wife are not cooperating with police and have since vanished.

    ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE*NO DISCUSSION


    Timeline Links (Update 7):
    Part I (1968 - 2017)
    Part II (Dec 2017 - 10 July 2019)
    Part III (11 July 2019)
    Part IV (12 July 2019 - 30 Nov 2019)
    Part V (December 2019)
    Part VI (January 2020)
    Part VII (February 2020)


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  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    This thread is dedicated to discussion of two missing kids, JJ and Tylee.

    The thread does not exist to chit chat about your own religious doctrines, discuss temples, tithing, BYU, physical appearance, etc. Forty seven of such off topic posts have just been removed.

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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Please stop discussing the Release Lori social media account. It is NOT an approved source in this discussion and posts have been removed.

    Thank you.
     
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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    JR is not a POI/suspect here. Please stop discussing her.
     
  5. Hrh_LadyJ

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    Apologies if this has already been posted (I'm still looking for the full 10 min interview with Larry regarding Tylee and JJ) But thought this was interesting as well

    Chads Parents issue a Statement:
    Chad Daybell's parents, family issue statement for 'all who are suffering and grieving' | East Idaho News

    It is with heavy hearts and extreme sadness, that we wish to express our love and condolences to the families of JJ and Tylee. We especially want to convey our sorrow to Larry and Kay Woodcock and Colby Ryan for the pain and suffering they have endured for many months and especially at this time.

    We have hoped and prayed over the many months for the safety and well-being of JJ and Tylee and we are devastated by their passing. We are heart-broken that these beautiful children’s lives were ended tragically and prematurely and for the emptiness and pain it leaves in the lives of their loved ones. We also continue to mourn for Tammy, who has been a daughter and sister to us and part of our family for nearly 30 years. She was the sweetest and kindest person and a wonderful mother to her children.


    The lives of her children have been devastated since she passed away and through the events of the past months and recent days. We empathize and know that for every family and loved one involved, healing may take a lifetime. We send our most sincere love and prayers to all those who are suffering and grieving at this time.

    The Daybell Family

    And found one about the Vigil plans for Tylee and JJ this friday:
    Grandparents of 'JJ' Vallow visit homes where grandson's remains were found, vigil slated for Friday
     
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  6. Michael0808

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    I appreciate your perspective. I don’t think this would be something that was necessarily a screw up, I think they were in the early stages of their investigation and did not anticipate a drone.

    Although... then again that is probably a screw up.

    I don’t like what I see. But the orange object does seem to match the hole being observed, and to me does look like human remains. Kinda can’t unsee it.

    Your last observation for me is something to consider. They could have made that call and may have been told yes, blur it.

    Only time will tell I suppose. I appreciate the conversation.

    and new so still adding JMO to everything lol
     
  7. k-mac

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    and wasnt there some trip to disneyland???
    with lori??
    think it was in melani G interview.

    hoping the statement from the son (dad met a widow....blahblah)was sincere and not lie spinning to cover his fathers behind.

    which for that to be the case the trip to disneyland and nice lady cookie making session where lori spin.

    moo
     
  8. Michael0808

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    Thank you for the welcome!

    It appears to me to be exactly that as well. I don’t think it was intentionally disrespectful at all. I think that photo is a result of not taking into consideration the technology of drones.
     
  9. Michael0808

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    Thank you! I am just trying to follow along and gather in all the info that this amazing site is providing and taking in all the insights.
    Honestly I’m 5 days into having the dreaded Covid-19 (Only moderately)and grateful I stumbled upon this site. I’ve been privately obsessed with the case lol... and now I’ve got good company :)
     
  10. dot...dot...dot

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    In the mainstream CoJCoLDS a man can be sealed to more than one woman. He can only be married to one woman but a sealing remains intact through death or divorce. (No polygamy on earth since 1890
    but in heaven it’s A-OK)

    A woman, however, can only be sealed to one man. The work around for women is to get a “Temple Divorce” which breaks the sealing with the previous spouse. This is usually done when a divorced woman makes plans to marry a “worthy” man. Not usually done when a widow remarries.

    I’m pretty sure Chad & Lori weren’t consulting The Handbook though.
     
  11. KonaHonu

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    I've known people who got "married" - got a license, went to a judge for a ceremony, were promounced married by teh judge, then intentionally failed to have it recorded. Why? To maintain SS benefits. You do the emotional bonding but avoid negative legal effects. It is far more common than most people would imagine.

    I've actually questioned whether they have the legal status they think they have but without recording there is no paper trail. Most states have rules for correcting filing errors. But if it was not an error...?

    In this case we have heard Lori was collecting about $6000 a month for the kids. That seems like a pretty big anti-motive. I absolutely think she had the kids killed or did it herself at this point. But I am still really perplexed on the motive. Tylee was 17. She could have waited her out. JJ could have been given back to Kay. Why give up $6000/month and bring subject yourself to life in prison for a few weeks or months with your dream partner. That really doesn't make any sense to me. Especially for a guy with essentially no earning potential! If she is a gold digger her prospecting skills are pretty abyssmal!
     
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    4 THOUSAND SMACKS a month in Social Security payments she would cash on their behalf.

    This! Disgusting. She’s a dark Evil THING.
     
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    Well, what was it that chad put on that rental application for salary? Maybe he told Lori he would take care of her with his mass fortune. Maybe it didn’t matter since the world was ending? I don’t know but I hope to God there are some federal fraud charges to add soon.
     
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    It sounds like I assumed correctly, and CD and LV consummated their relationship and referred to that as a “seal”. I can hear her titter about how clever she’s being...
     
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    Well he said he knew the inside story...if thar is the case then he would going to jail too. So now he has to cya.
     
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    So ironically enough me and my husband were married in Hawaii by the exact same company who supposedly married Chad and Lori. The wife plans the wedding, the husband performs the ceremony, and the son is the photographer. I don’t know if I can say names here because they are not POI’s. They did an amazing job and are lovely people. But I know for a fact that after we signed all the paperwork at the wedding, they submitted the paperwork to the state for us and we received our marriage certificate in the mail within 2 weeks. And we live in California. So if it’s a real marriage and not just a spiritual one, there has to be proof out there. And I wonder why we haven’t seen one reporter find it. MOO
     
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    Just to add to this, The original pic's I posted came from a photo site for multiple news outlets.... There were originally 11 pictures, I grabbed 3 very early that had some larger shots of the Orange object... Those pic's are now gone, and the gallery has shrunk to 4 pic's.

    I don't know about all the other websites with photo's, but the one I linked def. took a bunch down.
     
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    Isn’t Larry unwell, or did I imagine him saying he was hoping to get a resolution on JJ before he died (?!). if I’m not misremembering, I wanted this for him more than anyone else, I think.
     
  19. Michael0808

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    These are the things I am wondering about as well. I keep tossing around the idea she truly believed that the world was ending and the children were zombies.. etc.

    Bur as sick as it makes me feel I do think there is too much murder in the wake of these two for it to be that. I don’t think she was a vulnerable person that could be brainwashed. I don’t think that at all. The interview of her heading to the beach in Hawaii tells me all I need to know about her.

    I think you hit the nail on the head that she thought would be taken care of with his imagined mass fortune. And I think she wanted that at the expense of anything. Including JJ and Tylee. That’s where I’m leaning right now.

    I think that as sick as this makes me, that’s where it’s headed. JMO
     
  20. diggndeeperstill

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    Oh my gosh! Take care! I’m
    Sorry you are sick. There is a COVID thread here as well.
     
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