Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

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  1. Patch Tuesday

    Patch Tuesday Well-Known Member

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    Police searching for Rexburg children believed to be in serious danger | East Idaho News

    I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface. The children's mother (Lori Wallows) recently married a man (Chad Daybell) a few weeks after his wife died. It was presumed the late wife had died of natural causes but was exhumed recently and her death is now being investigated.
    The new wife's husband was shot in a family argument earlier this year:

    Chandler Police identify man who was shot dead during family fight

    The husband and wife are not cooperating with police and have since vanished.

    ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

    ID - Joshua Vallow & Tylee Ryan, Rexburg, Sept 2019 - TIMELINE ONLY *NO DISCUSSION*



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  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    This thread is dedicated to discussion of two missing kids, JJ and Tylee.

    The thread does not exist to chit chat about your own religious doctrines, discuss temples, tithing, BYU, physical appearance, etc. Forty seven of such off topic posts have just been removed.

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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Please stop discussing the Release Lori social media account. It is NOT an approved source in this discussion and posts have been removed.

    Thank you.
     
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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    JR is not a POI/suspect here. Please stop discussing her.
     
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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Hey everyone,

    Plunder is not an approved source here, and what is discussed in the nightly youtube chat is not held to the same TOS standard that this WS board discussion is. Please don't bring what is discussed in chat to this thread.

    Thanks.
     
  6. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Please move on from discussing various personality disorders.

    We do not have any VI psychologist / experts in the thread and Lori has not been diagnosed so it is really off topic in this discussion at this time and, at times, comments made are offensive to some members.
     
  7. KonaHonu

    KonaHonu Well-Known Member

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    Please dont be afraid to post! This forum works because we can all feed off of each other's ideas and information and yours is as valuable as everyone elses!

    You make a very good point. If Chad had spilled the beans, he would have been front and center with LE pointing to where he dug. You are the first person to point out that information! Thanks! I think it is the most convincing discredit of the "Chad rolled" theory we have seen. You are obviously good at this and have no reason to hesitate posting in the future. We are all wrong some (or most) of the time. But throwing ideas out there is always good.
     
  8. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Former Member

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    It is hard to think of this but I wonder if it may have been a Risparadone overdose with JJ, either accidental or on purpose. Around the beginning of Oct hence the need for the storage unit. He allegedly spoke to Grandma JC on 1 Oct so it is important for LE to check that out.
     
  9. tresir2012

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    Because you asked for examples where it started in October and called someone's suggestion that Alex or Tammy could have died from Covid ludicrous. It is a valid suggestion as they both could have had blood clots in the lungs. You are now being rude regarding suggestions being as likely as alien abductions. Now suggestions have been provided, you don't want to discuss it.
     
  10. Tortoise

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    This is all my opinion and not fact:

    It's just nonsense and blabber.

    The first statement tells me ZP didn't wait until it felt like the right time. Something made her do it faster.

    The second statement is just plain false. 'The coincidence wasn't planned'. You cannot plan a coincidence. The denial and the illogical use of the word plan flags it up as unreliable. Therefore I only have to wonder why she is going to such lengths to deny a plan.

    The third statement - while we're there we need a witness and Alex and ZP are there - is planning.


    I think some liars tend to talk too much to try and bury the lies, but it only reveals more material to unravel all the inconsistencies.
     
  11. MadTing

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    The most ironic thing is that the only people who have acted like zombies is chad lori and alex.
     
  12. Tortoise

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    I think he was involved in Tylee's death. Because I think when MG challenged him about his belief in zombies his response that he 100% believed it could be that he had to, to justify to himself what he had done.

    moo
     
  13. mrjitty

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    So when do we expect murder charges?
     
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    Having a "vision" that his wife was going to die won't help his cause because most people don't believe in visions. Added to the fact that he likely buried/killed the children before she died and he married only two weeks after her death will also work against him. He had motive and whether or not they find anything in Tammy's autopsy, he may be charged. His loony belief system will work against him -- not for him. JMOO
     
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    This is true. People do talk, sometimes they even turn themselves into the police and confess.
     
  16. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday please :)

    Idaho Code 18-4003 – Degrees of Murder

    Current as of: 2018 | Check for updates | Other versions
    (a) All murder which is perpetrated by means of poison, or lying in wait, or torture, when torture is inflicted with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, to extort something from the victim, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, or which is perpetrated by any kind of willful, deliberate and premeditated killing is murder of the first degree.

    Idaho Code 18-204 – Principals Defined
    All persons concerned in the commission of a crime, whether it be felony or misdemeanor, and whether they directly commit the act constituting the offense or aid and abet in its commission, or, not being present, have advised and encouraged its commission, or who, by fraud, contrivance, or force, occasion the intoxication of another for the purpose of causing him to commit any crime, or who, by threats, menaces, command or coercion, compel another to commit any crime, are principals in any crime so committed.

    » Idaho Code 18-4003 – Degrees of MurderLawServer
     
  17. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    Before prelims?

    Also, someone upthread said that Chad waived his prelim hearing and would not have one. IIRC he waived his right to attend such. Two different things.

    Which is correct, as the prelim was scheduled after he said such?

    I was thinking he just wants to put his head in the sand and not be on internet/tv, so he wants to sit in jail and not be there... like a flamingo. (If I'm not there, it didn't happen... or I don't want to sit in the court with family members sitting on the prosecution side as happened with Colby at Lori's hearing? )

    It sure would send a message if family members/others unexpectedly for him sat on the prosecution side!!

    TIA.

    ETA: I am corrected below, with cue up on video, that he waived his right to speedy prelim! Still hoping that "significant" folks sit on the prosecution side though!!!!
     
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  18. Tortoise

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    My understanding is that he waived his right to a speedy prelim hearing (14 days) - not his right to attend it.

    starts at 8:12 mins

     
  19. tresir2012

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    Any idea why they are moving out and into the house across the road? I don't understand why one would do that. Considering that bodies of children were buried there.
     
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    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    Ha! Thank you so very much for taking the time to post this, and taking even more time for the cue up time!

    You are correct, I was wrong (many times I have been out of 7,710 posts I've made lol)

    I took the time to ETA my OP so that the post doesn't have others taking time as you did to document my error.
     
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