Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #2

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  1. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    I saw the signage but thought jail employee made it. How would inmates have access to the supplies? Scissors, glue, poster board, etc?
     
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    I agree. If it were an inmate there would be video of who did it and he/she would have an infraction. That wouldn't or shouldn't be allowed.
    ETA: Just to clarify. Something like that could cause a very dangerous situation to the jail staff.
     
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    Hey, so glad to have another that loves a good 200 pages report!!! I've had a few phone calls, got the intro., the ground rules, who the players agencies are and the first three cases.

    The detail, the hand holding, the constant follow up, and generally riding their a$$ daily, I don't know how these workers did it. Yea, their are recommendations but, they are going need an army and a massive amount of foster parents. Some of these folks you'd have to almost live with them.
     
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    Do we know the order of events? I haven’t read everything yet. For some reason I was thinking the blows occurred before or during the cold shower. In fact, I had wondered if they put him in a cold shower to try and reduce swelling or something. Not sure why I thought this. My imagination can get going at times...
     
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    I bet, many of the cases are on WS.
     
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    At least she's wearing prison stripes.
     
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    Might seem random, but another piercing thought that wont leave my brain is how we discussed over days and weeks during Lucas' case that Emily already had her kids taken away......WTF was she doing caring for Lucas, and now another baby?

    This is the same scenario!! Oldest son taken away, then allowed to care for additional children, and look - abused to death!! My head is spinning!!!!
     
  8. Trudie

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    All of you 50 or older, think how many times in your school years a kid went missing or was killed. Rarely, right?
    With the advent of drugs/internet, the struggles of making it in our world, people do not parent any more, imo.
    This is only going to worsen until there’s a way out.
    Jmo and I’m pissed. Tomorrow, we’ll have a new case, I think.
    We only know the ones that hit msm, too.
    What about the other cases, with no msm coverage. Newscasts are time limited.
     
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    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Forever!
     
  10. Simply Southern

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    Judge place kids under protective order and remove and they they just start over. A whole new family.
     
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    I know, it's one after the next. It's ridiculous and totally out of control. :(:mad:
     
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    I believe according to the charging documents. Extended cold shower first.
     
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    I wonder when the politicians will jump in.
    I live near Crystal Lake. Our state is a mess- the budget, corruption, governors going to jail, etc.
    Watch new governor JB make a new effort behind “AJ’s Law” that sounds great but can’t be funded to actually do anything.
     
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    Sorry if I'm late as these threads go fast and I'm catching up..

    I'm not sure I agree with keeping children with their own families at all costs; however, we hear time and time again stories of children in the foster system that suffer greatly, which might be a reason they do that. Plus, are there enough eligible foster parents for all of the children they would remove from families?
     
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    It says letters. Inmates have access to paper. Inmates are very savvy they use toothpaste as glue.
     
  16. BlinkOfAnI

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    Often times the complaint will give a range of dates but the date on the complaint are pretty specific. The timing of events probably won't come out until later. I was hoping the affidavits to the complaints would be included to provide more info. I did notice that some of the complaint pages were missing. The words "extended period of time" were used for the shower so I am doubting the shower was to help swelling. JMO
     
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    I missed how police determined the cold shower, did one of them admit to that?
     
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    Yes they are. I haven't read the article and am only going by what has been stated here but even so jails have cameras everywhere and it would be an infraction for an inmate to do something like that. They would lose privileges which is all they have.
     
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    Wondering the same thing.....I would guess it's the only way they COULD know, right?
     
  20. Simply Southern

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    If I was a guard I'd have to look the other way.
    If I was the inmate I'd take the punishment.
     
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