Found Deceased IL - Benedetta 'Beth' Bentley, 41, Mount Vernon, 23 May 2010 #2

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Beth was born 12 Feb. 1969
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5252408&postcount=212

Last seen May 23 at the Centralia Amtrak station to catch the 6:08 p.m train to Chicago.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006419-504083.html

Scott Bentley said the last time he spoke to her was about 4 p.m. May 23.
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2010/06/04/r_idiycdcasr6nuwv_ej2qw/index.xml

Beth and a female friend traveled to the Centralia area May 20 in a rented car
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2010/06/04/r_idiycdcasr6nuwv_ej2qw/index.xml

“The friend places her at the station,” Woodstock Police Chief Robert Lowen said.
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2010/06/04/r_idiycdcasr6nuwv_ej2qw/index.xml

Robert W. Lowen, the police chief in Woodstock, said there is no sign that she got on the train.
http://thesouthern.com/news/local/article_cdaaa9ac-7125-11df-86b7-001cc4c03286.html

The friend says she was driven to the station around 4:30 p.m. in a 2009 White Nissan Altima.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...DB9C7A6D449BC98C86257738006B7632?OpenDocument

missing person’s report- filed by husband on Monday, May 24
http://register-news.com/local/x1174317299/Search-continues-for-missing-woman

Scott Bentley says Beth never mentioned taking a train back. (on ABC video)
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7477571

Beth has been married to Scott for five years.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5251940&postcount=183
 
On the FB Page, in the FAQ section, it says Beth's phone is an iPhone and hasn't been used, can't be found and can't be triangulated or pinged, not an option and can't go into why not.

Anyone have any ideas on this? What could be the reason they can't do any of that?
 
What's up with that? Can't be found and can't be triangulated or pinged? How bizarre. I had to repeat it simply because it seems so strange to me.
 
That does seem strange... And they can't go into reason for why not? The only thing I can think of is that they can't get a subpoena for the records because the phone is in Beth's name...

But you can tell if the phone has been used by looking at the online records for usage... I know the iPhone is available exclusively through AT&T, can you check your usage through the net? (I have Verizon, and it's usage is updated immediately after I make a call..) Anyone with AT&T know if it's the same?
 
That does seem strange... And they can't go into reason for why not? The only thing I can think of is that they can't get a subpoena for the records because the phone is in Beth's name...

But you can tell if the phone has been used by looking at the online records for usage... I know the iPhone is available exclusively through AT&T, can you check your usage through the net? (I have Verizon, and it's usage is updated immediately after I make a call..) Anyone with AT&T know if it's the same?
Maybe the phone was destroyed?
 
On the FB Page, in the FAQ section, it says Beth's phone is an iPhone and hasn't been used, can't be found and can't be triangulated or pinged, not an option and can't go into why not.

Anyone have any ideas on this? What could be the reason they can't do any of that?


Pure speculation but perhaps it is not that the phone can not be triangulated or pinged but rather attempts to do so have been unsuccesful. I can't imagine "not an option" being related to work, as it is my understanding attorney's phone line's usually recall all incoming and outgoing calls. Unless the phone is on some kind of business network in the company name and due to the "company" being an attorney's office it is not an option? Or the phone is in someone else's name who will not give permission to access the records?

All speculation and jmo.
 
Maybe the phone was destroyed?

That would account for no usage, but then they would need the actual phone to tell that. You can still triangulate positions and get previous pings, that's all done through the carrier off of cell towers and they keep records of that... I haven't had AT&T in about 5 years, but I know with my Verizon phone, the only time it's not pinging is when the actual battery has been removed from the phone.
 
Another thought. Maybe they can't get a subpeona because there is not enough evidence a crime was committed and Beth did not walk away willingly at this point. Not that I believe she walked away willingly, but perhaps they simply do not have enough evidence yet?

No, that wouldn't make sense because there are cell phone pings and a map for John Spira's missing persons case and LE seems to think he left of his own accord.

Hmmmmm........
 
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...bal&subj=122739057758360&id=1313763190&ref=pf


Just getting Beth's picture on this thread.​
 
I drive down that way quite frequently and always around Centralia I have trouble with getting a signal. . .
 
My DH has had some business in that area as recently as last week, has Verizon and had no trouble.

I just have never seen that before about can't be pinged or triangulated and am just very curious what makes this different. Is it that it is an Iphone, ATT or????
 
On the FB Page, in the FAQ section, it says Beth's phone is an iPhone and hasn't been used, can't be found and can't be triangulated or pinged, not an option and can't go into why not.

Anyone have any ideas on this? What could be the reason they can't do any of that?


Perhaps Beth's I-phone was mysteriously found inside the rental car by JW, or by LE after she returned the car at the Woodstock rental lot. The phone could have been planted there by JW and RR to make it look as if Beth might have lost or forgotten her phone in the rental car when she was supposedly dropped off at the train station by JW and this was part of the planned cover up to throw off investigators as to the location of Beth by tracing Beth's phone to a dead end. Was it ever mentioned if the rental car was impounded for forensic evidence? (if it hasn't it should be)

A scenario like this could also be the reason why AGM or the author of the FAQ's cannot go into detail about why Beth's phone cannot be tracked. You surly would think that if the phone was not traceable by LE it would not be secret information and LE would have come forth to the media and said that they tried to locate her from her cell phone with no success or at least give the public a general idea of the last known location Beth's phone made a call from if successful to aid in the search for her. Unless LE suspects foul play and does not want her abductor(s) to know if a trace was preformed and if it was successful or not and let their conscience get the best of them hoping they will come clean.

What a coincidence, Beth loses her cell phone and goes missing all at the same time, the perfect reason why she never called home while on the train and her last location cannot be pinpointed from the phone records due to the phone being found in the rental car back in Woodstock.


If Beth's phone was not found, I would assume her phone was destroyed so that it could not be tracked by LE. If her abductor(s) was smart enough to know that. I just hope they were NOT smart enough to remove the batteries from their own phones while they were disposing of the body so they could not be tracked as well, if that is what actually happen to Beth.

Here is an interesting article to read about tracking cell phones.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

CNET was the first to report on prospective tracking in a 2005 news article. In a subsequent Arizona case, agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration tracked a tractor trailer with a drug shipment through a GPS-equipped Nextel phone owned by the suspect. Texas DEA agents have used cell site information in real time to locate a Chrysler 300M driving from Rio Grande City to a ranch about 50 miles away. Verizon Wireless and T-Mobile logs showing the location of mobile phones at the time calls became evidence in a Los Angeles murder trial.

And a mobile phone's fleeting connection with a remote cell tower operated by Edge Wireless is what led searchers to the family of the late James Kim, a CNET employee who died in the Oregon wilderness in 2006 after leaving a snowbound car to seek help.
 
My DH has had some business in that area as recently as last week, has Verizon and had no trouble.

I just have never seen that before about can't be pinged or triangulated and am just very curious what makes this different. Is it that it is an Iphone, ATT or????

If the phone was destroyed or the battery removed it might not be able to be located. Pinging is actually done by the phone to a tower or several towers.

It would be nice to know if GPS information on the I-phone is recorded and could be retrieved by LE for study as to her minute to minute movement prior to the phone signal going dead.

http://www.gps-phone-tracking.com//cell-phone-gps-tracking.html

All cell phones constantly broadcast a radio signal, even when not on a call. The cell phone companies have been able to estimate the location of a cell phone for many years using triangulation information from the towers receiving the signal. However, the introduction of GPS technology into cell phones has meant that cell phone GPS tracking now makes this information a lot more accurate.

With GPS technology now more commonplace in many new cell phones, this means that the location of anyone carrying a compatible cell phone can be accurately tracked at any time.
 
I wonder if they would be able to get warrants for the phones of everyone who was with Beth that weekend...

(I however, have learned that if I am going to become involved in any nefarious activities, it would probably be best to leave my phone at the location that I would be giving in my alibi...)
 
On the FB Page, in the FAQ section, it says Beth's phone is an iPhone and hasn't been used, can't be found and can't be triangulated or pinged, not an option and can't go into why not.

Anyone have any ideas on this? What could be the reason they can't do any of that?
Interesting. Right above that, it says the iPhone is being monitored by police.

I'm guessing there might be privacy issues, after reading at the link above on Cnet.
 
Has there been any comments from LE? What about the friend she was traveling with,has it been confirmed by security video or passengers that she was ever dropped off at the train station? Something is NOT adding up in this case why would Beth take the train home if she was the one who rented the car? It seems to me she would have had Jenn take the train back if she could not stay the extra day! Beth had been in contact with her husband through the whole trip including the day she supposedly decided to take the train and never once mentioned to him that she was coming home on the train and would need to be picked up????? If I were LE I would be taking a good long hard look at her travel companion!!!
 
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