IL - Helen Green, 12, Chicago, 1971

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  1. apearn

    apearn New Member

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    I've never started a post before so hopefully I didn't goof anything. I found this girl looking for something else and I don't see her in Namus or DN - also I didn't see her here. She is interesting as a possible for another case so I wanted to post her here.

    FYI - That email bounces back as undelivered.


    http://meyahna.tripod.com/pg29.html


    Helen Marie Green (DOB: 01/20/59) was last seen in Southside of Chicago, Illinois around 1971 or 1972. She ran away from home with her brother, they got separated at night, he was returned to a youth camp but she was never seen again. Foul play may be involved in her disappearance. If you have any information please contact: steelepenni@aim.com

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  3. sidneyia

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    Wow. She really does look like a good possibility for Cali Doe. Very similar nose and mouth, IMO.
     
  4. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    Hopefully he googles her name. If someone is up to it; consider making a gmail account for Helen to then make a FB profile for her. If anything someone may look on FB; we can then direct them here..
     
  5. apearn

    apearn New Member

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    I found three posts about her with two emails. One bounced back and the other has had no response so far. I'll give the last one a little more time. I wanted to get some more physical info on her.
     
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    apearn New Member

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    I also found a DOB of 01-20-58
     
  7. Shamrocker99

    Shamrocker99 New Member

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    these old cases are so sad--I hope she is out there somewhere and made a life for herself!


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  8. Still_Seek_Answers

    Still_Seek_Answers Hope is our strength......love is our determinatio

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    I sent this girls info ( little as it is) to M. Burgess as a possible Cali match a few months ago. Given the small amount of info on her, it is impossible to know if she is a match or not. I too think she has a huge resemblance to little Cali, and given that there is almost nothing on her.....she could just be our girl.

    I am trying to find phone numbers for her brothers so hopefully more information can be obtained, as well as a DNA sample obtained and a profile created. I also emailed her brother at both emails back in October, but both of the emails bounced back to me as undelivered. If I am able to reach any of her brothers I will try to obtain permission to create her a facebook page.

    Almost nothing has been done on her case and I find that very sad. I will mention to them that she needs reported as missing and listed on NAMUS. Even if she is not little Cali, she is most likely a UP somewhere.
     
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    Still_Seek_Answers Hope is our strength......love is our determinatio

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    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    Age progression

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    Helen's jacket photo shopped out

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  12. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    She also looks quite a bit like Andrea Doe from 1990, but she would have been 32 by then and the top estimate for Andrea is upper 20's.
     
  13. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    I don't think so

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    That age progress resembles Becky Sue Turner/Lori Kennedy Ruff!

    Gonna post the link over there....
     
  15. Still_Seek_Answers

    Still_Seek_Answers Hope is our strength......love is our determinatio

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    Okay...but we know that Jane Doe can't be Becky Turner/Lori Ruff....because Lori's body was found in her car parked in her father in laws drive way. Personally, I do not see the resemblance, but not even questioning that.....just wonder how adding a deceased UP to Lori Ruffs already complicated story is linked......
     
  16. mommylicious

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    I think Laughing means the age progression on Helen.

    What a defiant, angry look that little girl has. So sad what they must have been going through.:(
     
  17. sloane7777

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    I think so too and I can see wanting to have surgery with the nose, and severe abuse fits with FLEK mental issues?


    ROSE, can you get the brother to take a look at FLEK/LORI?
     
  18. MysticJynx

    MysticJynx Just Sayin'

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    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    LaLaw2000 Active Member

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    As Helen's brother was found after the two of them had run away, what was the reason the Cook County authorities gave for not urging the parents to fill out a missing person's report on Helen? Were the authorities okay with just leaving her out there somewhere to fend for herself by not actively looking for her? A 13 year old is just a child. Cook County authorities need to be contacted again, IMO. Whomever was in authority then probably isn't now. They dropped the ball where this child is concerned.

    I will never understand why there is not DNA on file for Helen because it can be compared to so many Jane Does. Whomever did the abusing is practically 30 years older now and may be dead or not looking for her. What is left of her family deserve to know what happened to her. If she is dead, she could be brought home to her family and given the dignity of a proper burial. If she is alive and located, then respect her wishes if she chooses not to either come back or re-join her family.

    BTW, what type of Youth Camp did she and her brother run away from? TIA.

    MOO
     
  21. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Because in the 1970's, police departments for the most part did not take missing persons reports on runaways. If they picked up a juvenile from somewhere else, they'd send them home (or at least tell them to go home) but they weren't in the business of tracking down kids or getting involved in what was at the time seen as family business. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, just the way it was.

    Also, in the early 70's most people would not have considered a 13-year-old to be a child. ID was not needed often and people didn't ask as many questions. Especially if she was tall for her age, she could easily have lied about her age and gotten a job waiting tables, cleaning motel rooms, or working in a kitchen.
     

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