Found Deceased IL - Jake Cefolia, 49, jogging, car found, SVP of United Airlines, Chicago, 6 Aug 2020

[Cubby]

Illinois missing persons identification act.

50 ILCS 722/  Missing Persons Identification Act.

From the above link:

<snip>
that the person should promptly contact the
law enforcement agency if the missing person remains missing in order to provide additional information and materials that will aid in locating the missing person such as the missing person's credit cards, debit cards, banking information, and cellular telephone records; <snip>

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I agree

The only time we or I have given LE or an investigator any account info is when they have provided a warrant or subpoena for it.

I would be livid if my bank just handed it over to anyone.

Of course, we don't know if LE had a subpoena for JC's banking transactions or not, I would like to believe LE did have one.

It is just worded in a way that sounds like LE just called and received the info. YIKES.

Wondering if by chance, they already had access? Could that have been opened up because of the supposed “other” investigation?

 

[Arizonagrl]

Wondering if by chance, they already had access? Could that have been opened up because of the supposed “other” investigation?

Right, I don’t think it’s so far fetched to think that if he was the subject of a criminal investigation that they couldn’t subpoena his bank accounts. Also, what if any indication is there that this was foul play? IMO this was a deeply stressed individual who had so much going on even in the last week of his disappearance it just got to be too much for him and he took off. He absolutely had the resources and money to do it. It takes more courage to self harm and frankly I don’t think he had the courage to do that.

 

[Arizonagrl]

Right, I don’t think it’s so far fetched to think that if he was the subject of a criminal investigation that they couldn’t subpoena his bank accounts. Also, what if any indication is there that this was foul play? IMO this was a deeply stressed individual who had so much going on even in the last week of his disappearance it just got to be too much for him and he took off. He absolutely had the resources and money to do it. It takes more courage to self harm and frankly I don’t think he had the courage to do that.

I revise that somewhat: it takes courage and cowardice. I only wish he could have received the help he needed, for his children’s sake and family.

 

[Spartygirl]

Wondering if by chance, they already had access? Could that have been opened up because of the supposed “other” investigation?

Great question !!!
They could have already issued subpoenas for his banking transactions.
My first instinct of the "other" investigation does include "following the money "trail which then leads to his disappearance, IMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Great question !!!
They could have already issued subpoenas for his banking transactions.
My first instinct of the "other" investigation does include "following the money "trail which then leads to his disappearance, IMO

That is one of my theories as well, with possible ideas in the background. Also would explain a bit of the silence in some circles.

 

[enelram]

There is also the possibility he went for treatment and didn't want anyone to know.


Failing to pay child support would be handled by the state or either parties attorney. I don't think it's that since his last court appearance on his divorce proceedings had a modification in February of this year.

I honestly think it pertains to something that occurred while he was responsible for caring for his child/ren. It could be Elmhurst began an investigation. Elmhurst would decide whether criminal charges would be brought.

Or, if criminal charges are not brought a civil case involving the department of children and family services may be opened. Police officers are mandatory reporters and would be required to report possible child neglect and or endangerment to DCFS. If the allegations are determined to be 'founded' the state steps in and may require the parent to attend a substance abuse screening and possible treatment for drug or alcohol related issues.

I don't think any of the other crimes you suggested would be headed by Elmhurst.

I suspect the investigation involves something that would be very embarassing should it come out and possibly jeopardize his standing w/ United.
Cubby, your comment regarding something while he was responsible for the care of his children reminds me of similar problems I've
seen with divorced fathers w/ teenaged children. These involved people I knew. The charges were initiated by the parents of the other teens involved.
One involved hosting parties and procuring drugs and alcohol for their teen and their friends. Or even allowing the party in his home and he was aware of or around, could look dicey.

Another involved inappropriate contact w/ teenaged daughter's friend at his home at a pool party.

This is all speculation just to give an example of "embarassing" situations.

I still believe his disappearance is totally voluntary and with his means and experience and previous comments, I can understand why
LE is not spending any more money or time
investigating his disappearance.moo

 

[diggndeeperstill]

In searching for something related to Jake I found this article. It is about a man, Xianhui Su that went missing on July 29, 2020. I’ll start a thread for him in a minute. He was last seen in an area that’s a 10 min drive from one of Jake’s last known locations, 301 Butterfield. I don’t see a connection, yet. This man from my research appears to be a pathologist. I find it interesting that we haven’t heard anything in regards to him missing either, and he is still missing.

From the article:

He was last seen in the area of Finley and Butterfield in Downers Grove, Ill. and may be enroute to Los Angeles, Calif. He was driving a brown 2002 Toyota Camry with Illinois license plate AY92018.
Missing Ill. man believed to be in danger

ETA-- A thread for Xianhui Su I created here. IL - IL - Xianhui Su, 44, Lombard, last seen Downers Grove, 29 July 2020

 

[Cirxe]

I was thinking about this case today and remembered at least one person who has gone missing from Waterfall Glen before (I followed the case back in 2016). Tragically, the previous MP had taken his own life within the preserve. I just remember from the time he went missing to finding him was not that long. Food for thought.

Family, friends to search Lemont forest for missing man

 

[Cubby]

I was thinking about this case today and remembered at least one person who has gone missing from Waterfall Glen before (I followed the case back in 2016). Tragically, the previous MP had taken his own life within the preserve. I just remember from the time he went missing to finding him was not that long. Food for thought.

Family, friends to search Lemont forest for missing man

I wasn't familiar with the 2016 case. It looks like his family utilized the following SAR team to assist in locating him.

https://www.indianasearchandresponseteam.org/

On another note, we don't know if anything was missing from Jakes home to indicate he left willingly.

 

[dotr]

Just stumbled on this intriguing thread, sorry if already posted.

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GBTA Industry Voices: Jake Cefolia, Vice President of Sales – Americas, United
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[pikachu1322]

I agree

The only time we or I have given LE or an investigator any account info is when they have provided a warrant or subpoena for it.

I would be livid if my bank just handed it over to anyone.

Of course, we don't know if LE had a subpoena for JC's banking transactions or not, I would like to believe LE did have one.

It is just worded in a way that sounds like LE just called and received the info. YIKES.

Same impression I got. <modsnip>
If you give my bank info, you better have been served with a subpoena. Also, to get that warrant/subpoena you better have a legitimate reason to get it. If JC was being investigated for tax evasion/money laundering or in general a major crime and he was a threat to the community, go ahead. However, they were obviously super vague about what this investigation was and if it is something like a DUI, public drunkenness or a fairly minor charge you sure as hell shouldn't be able to get a subpoena for bank records for that.

 

[pikachu1322]

Food for thought. If Jake was a victim of foul play and the perpetrator had access to and was using Jakes bank accounts, shouldn't LE use that as a means to investigate? If he were a victim of foul play and police didn't utilize that avenue of investigation shouldn't Jakes ex sue on behalf off his kids?

This isn't some investigation into *how* he spends his money, but rather if he is accessing his money.

And if he wants to walk away from his life, he can legally do so. Simply let police know through his attorney he is alive and well and wishes no contact, case closed.

If

1. This is getting frustrating. IF there is evidence of foul play, then yes, you should have access to bank records. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY IN THIS CASE, AT LEAST THAT WE KNOW OF.

2. Whether he is accessing his money or not is his own business.

3. He doesn't have any obligation to let anyone know. Period, end of story.

I am not a huge believer in slippery slopes, but I am here. You can claim you are looking for bank records out of a want to do good, but that can lead to that ability being abused. If I wanted to go to Vegas for a week and didn't want to tell my family should the police be able to call my bank and ask where I am at?

 

[pikachu1322]

Right, I don’t think it’s so far fetched to think that if he was the subject of a criminal investigation that they couldn’t subpoena his bank accounts. Also, what if any indication is there that this was foul play? IMO this was a deeply stressed individual who had so much going on even in the last week of his disappearance it just got to be too much for him and he took off. He absolutely had the resources and money to do it. It takes more courage to self harm and frankly I don’t think he had the courage to do that.

That is assuming that it is a crime that would warrant that sort of subpoena. Like I said upthread, if it is a suspected case of child neglect or a DUI or something to that effect, then they should not have access based off of that. You can't get a warrant to go on a fishing trip.

 

[Cubby]

I am reading the link? Can you please quote the section where it says LE can access personal banking information without a warrant? All I see is what you quoted, that LE asks family members to provide any information to assist, not that you can access it.

Someone could give me your bank account number, but that doesn't mean I can go to the bank and get your last statement printed.

I'm going to answer this one last time and move on. Police are not obtaining information on what you purchase, but rather a yes or no answer to whether bank accounts of a person with an official missing persons report have activity or are inactive. If the accounts are active then police can determine if the person accessing the account is legally authorized to do so. I'm quite certain once an official missing persons report is filed and entered into the appropriate databases police can access those records in a capacity to determine the persons location.

 

[Cubby]

Possible human remains found in Wheaton. This is an odd one:

'Possible Human Remains' Found At Wheaton Cemetery: Police

 

[Poppyflower]

Possible human remains found in Wheaton. This is an odd one:

'Possible Human Remains' Found At Wheaton Cemetery: Police

weird!

Still no new info on jake that I can find online. This leads me to believe they have info they're keeping private. Maybe the information points in just one direction.

I wonder if he owned a gun?

 

[pikachu1322]

Possible human remains found in Wheaton. This is an odd one:

'Possible Human Remains' Found At Wheaton Cemetery: Police

Unlikely to be him. Doubtful a body would be so decayed after just a month that they would not be able to identify it as human.

 

[Poppyflower]

I was searching the area via google maps. There is a river that runs along the south side of the preserve. I wonder how easy it is to get on a barge?

Yes, I know this is a long shot but I try to look for interesting ideas like that.

 

[Cubby]

weird!

Still no new info on jake that I can find online. This leads me to believe they have info they're keeping private. Maybe the information points in just one direction.

I wonder if he owned a gun?

According to the following link, FOID cards are no longer public record in Illinois.

Licensing in Illinois | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

I haven't seen any updated information either.