IL - Teen Girls Face Hate Crime Charges Against Gays

[Jeana (DP)]

There is nothing more dangerous on this earth than a bitter teenaged girl. I had three sisters and believe me, I'd rather be put into a snake pit. When a group of teenaged girls wants to hurt you, you're gonna suffer.

 

[sherri79]

There is nothing more dangerous on this earth than a bitter teenaged girl. I had three sisters and believe me, I'd rather be put into a snake pit. When a group of teenaged girls wants to hurt you, you're gonna suffer.

on that every1 who has ever known teenage girls should be able to agree.:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Ntegrity]

if the fliers quoted bible passages about how you should not be gay then it is not a hate crime.

What about people who don't believe in God, the Bible, or any other religious books? As I see it, they could still hand out flyers stating their belief that homosexuality is wrong (for whatever personal reason) and be within their legal rights. I agree that the key is whether their literature promotes violence.

Dang, I'd love to see that flier!

 

[GlitchWizard]

What about people who don't believe in God, the Bible, or any other religious books? As I see it, they could still hand out flyers stating their belief that homosexuality is wrong (for whatever personal reason) and be within their legal rights. I agree that the key is whether their literature promotes violence.

Dang, I'd love to see that flier!

Yeah, it makes a difference if they had the boy's name on it, or if it were just anti gay. I think he was specified though.

AMEN on the evil intent of girls. When the girls grow up - it's time to watch your back even more!

 

[Nova]

so i finish with i think i agree with nove.. i need asprin now.j/k nova:blowkiss:

I think we all need a little aspirin now, but it was worth it for that great post!

I'm not sure a personal motive cancels out a hate crime. (Is burning a cross in the yard of a black family not a hate crime if you also don't like their barking dog?)

And I don't think students have a "free speech" right to harass other students who must attend public school.

But I think suspension or expulsion would be an appropriate penalty, at least for the flier. Promoting it to "hate crime" status seems like overkill to me.

 

[sherri79]

I think we all need a little aspirin now, but it was worth it for that great post!

I'm not sure a personal motive cancels out a hate crime. (Is burning a cross in the yard of a black family not a hate crime if you also don't like their barking dog?)

And I don't think students have a "free speech" right to harass other students who must attend public school.

But I think suspension or expulsion would be an appropriate penalty, at least for the flier. Promoting it to "hate crime" status seems like overkill to me.

students have a limited right to free speech meaning it can not protect their actions in school. so expel their hateful butts imo. harassing this boy is a crime. charge them and let them do the max imo. we have become a increasingly cruel world and teaching these girls it is wrong now is better than after they have a 6 pack of kids. the danger with hate crimes is it is all about motive. if a white man burns a cross on a black family's yard because of a dog how is it more of a crime than if a black man burns a cross on another black mans yard because of a dog? both did it because of a dog and both did it with the intent to cause fear. what if its *advertiser censored* ult. you may never know the true motives behind the attack. hate crimes are good but only if used carefully. i should be able to hate straight men and gay men equally as long as both leave the seat up. the girls should be punished but we should not let a case of teen bullies take away from true hate crimes. my father was a card carrying member of the kkk. (yes they actually have business cards) i got to grow up hearing stories of true hate crimes. out rage at these brats is fine. i just think calling this a hate crime takes away from the true horror of the group my father belonged to and the acts they commit.

ps nova sorry bout the misspelling your name. i was in a hurry.

 

[Nova]

students have a limited right to free speech meaning it can not protect their actions in school. so expel their hateful butts imo. harassing this boy is a crime. charge them and let them do the max imo. we have become a increasingly cruel world and teaching these girls it is wrong now is better than after they have a 6 pack of kids. the danger with hate crimes is it is all about motive. if a white man burns a cross on a black family's yard because of a dog how is it more of a crime than if a black man burns a cross on another black mans yard because of a dog? both did it because of a dog and both did it with the intent to cause fear. what if its *advertiser censored* ult. you may never know the true motives behind the attack. hate crimes are good but only if used carefully. i should be able to hate straight men and gay men equally as long as both leave the seat up. the girls should be punished but we should not let a case of teen bullies take away from true hate crimes. my father was a card carrying member of the kkk. (yes they actually have business cards) i got to grow up hearing stories of true hate crimes. out rage at these brats is fine. i just think calling this a hate crime takes away from the true horror of the group my father belonged to and the acts they commit.

ps nova sorry bout the misspelling your name. i was in a hurry.

Re the spelling, not a problem, sherri.

I basically agree with you. I think there is a place for hate crime charges, but let's use the concept sparingly and only when the motive is clear. (Again, we haven't seen what was on the flier.)

 

[hipmamajen]

There is nothing more dangerous on this earth than a bitter teenaged girl. I had three sisters and believe me, I'd rather be put into a snake pit. When a group of teenaged girls wants to hurt you, you're gonna suffer.

Can we get this carved in stone somewhere? I think people forget this far too easily...

 

[sherri79]

Re the spelling, not a problem, sherri.

I basically agree with you. I think there is a place for hate crime charges, but let's use the concept sparingly and only when the motive is clear. (Again, we haven't seen what was on the flier.)

true if i see the flier called for any violent action i would totaly change my mind.

 

[Nova]

true if i see the flier called for any violent action i would totaly change my mind.

You know, sherri, you and I agree on so much, it might be easier if you just give in and agree with me on EVERYthing! (j/k) :blowkiss: