Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #157

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Welcome back to the Delphi Murders discussion thread.

On the afternoon of Feb. 13th, 2017, best friends Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at a bridge in the town of Delphi. On Feb 14th their bodies were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the bridge.
The Sheriff's office gave a press conference on 4/22/19 and we have some solid information. Please take a look below

HERE IS THE NEW SKETCH FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE ON 4/22/19

delphi-suspect-sketch-ht-jef-190422_hpEmbed_5x6_992.jpg



HERE IS THE NEW AUDIO. IT'S-A BIT LONGER THAN THE FIRST AUDIO:
https://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_Audio_Edited_2019x3.wav

Here is the old audio in a loop:

http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

LATEST PRESS CONFERENCE 4/22/19

FOR MORE CLICK HERE FOR THE CARROL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FACEBOOK PAGE.

Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at
(844) 459-5786.

Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at(800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at (765) 564-2413.

Information can also be emailed to Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

video of press conference from 2017 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

Let's do this. Let's commit to getting this killer's picture and voice out there any possible way we can.


Pictures of Abby and Libby

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Case map by skibaboo updated with grayhuze crime flow video

Grayhuze youtube channel
Murder sheet YouTube

Verified Insiders: None in this case at this time. Verified Professional, Member michael.gartley, is a Verified Expert in Imaging Science.

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DO NOT post photos of random individuals (including persons featured in MSM articles about other area crimes) to compare to the images of unidentified suspect on the bridge.

PLEASE DO NOT POST PICTURES OF SEX OFFENDERS!

Do not sleuth family, PERIOD. This includes previous public records which have nothing to do with this case. They are victims here. Plain and simple.

If you feel you have a tip, by all means, phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.

NOTE - per Tricia and Sillybilly’s 5.28.2021 post here, JBC as a poi is now open for discussion in the Delphi thread.


Added 12/12/21

For general discussion on KAK’s current case please use his thread.
IN, Peru - Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, arrested Aug 29, 2020, 30 Counts associated with CSAM
 
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A consolidation of ADMIN & MOD notes (edited November 24, 2022):

- Members are allowed to discuss Richard Allen's voice as heard on the Gray Hughes podcast. Members may NOT link directly to RA's wife’s social media accounts.

- Speculation about RA’s possible involvement in other cases belongs in the OTHER CASES thread.


- Speculation that is not based on known fact is not allowed.

- Please use initials only for anyone other than victims or perps.

- If you have questions about rules or moderation, please do not ask them on the thread. Just jump off any post to use the Report feature to ask and a Mod or Admin will respond as soon as possible.

- Rumors are not allowed. If you can't link information to Websleuths approved sources, do NOT post it with "I read it somewhere" or "I'll find the link later ...".


- Sleuthing or discussing RSOs just because they are on the registry is not allowed. A thread specific exception may be made by Tricia or an Admin depending on geographical location in relation a crime.

- Photo alterations or side-by-side comparisons of unrelated pictures are not allowed.
 
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MOD NOTE:

There has been a major cleanup on this thread tonight due to numerous TOS violations. Here are the RULES we all agreed to upon joining this site.

We have a thread dedicated to KAK HERE. If you have an update specific to any of his current charges, pending charges or news, it is to be posted on that thread. For example, dismissals, court appearances, etc.

This is an example of an article and subject matter that may be brought up for discussion on this thread. This pertains to KAK and Abby’s and Libby’s cases. Although sources such as this are approved, you personally have the right to decide how much credibility you give to them. Nevertheless, they remain approved sources here on Websleuths.

Regardless of what is posted in ANY approved source, RA’s family (to include photos) are completely off limits as of this post. They are victims. PERIOD.

If you’re going to reference or discuss a topic (even if it’s been brought up before), a link to an approved source must be provided. Otherwise, don’t mention it.

Decisions made by officials may not sit well with us, but they’re most often made for a reason.

And lastly, STAY ON TOPIC. Please and THANK YOU!

- Mad
 
MOD NOTE:

There has been a major cleanup on this thread tonight due to numerous TOS violations. Here are the RULES we all agreed to upon joining this site.

We have a thread dedicated to KAK HERE. If you have an update specific to any of his current charges, pending charges or news, it is to be posted on that thread. For example, dismissals, court appearances, etc.

If you’re going to reference or discuss a topic (even if it’s been brought up before), a link to an approved source must be provided. Otherwise, don’t mention it.

Decisions made by officials may not sit well with us, but they’re most often made for a reason.

And lastly, STAY ON TOPIC. Please and THANK YOU!

- Mad

ADMIN NOTE:
For those asking for clarification re:WHO/WHAT can be discussed on the Delphi thread, the above MOD NOTE IS THE CLARIFICATION. THIS is what the ADMIN/MOD team has decided and is asking.

THANK YOU for your efforts to follow the sometimes fluid rules as they apply to specific cases.
 
ADMIN NOTE:

Sorry folks, but statement analysis, body language analysis, amateur handwriting analysis is not allowed unless sourced to a credentialed, forensic specialist involved in the case under discussion.

This discussion is dedicated to Abby and Libby. Posts that do not relate directly to their case are off topic and such posts get removed. If you wish to discuss personal matters, please do so with your WS friends through PM or in the basement.

Also, the presumption of innocence is part and parcel of the judicial process. It does not apply to the general public who are entitled to express their opinion. Members are not here to be lectured or chastised by others for expressing their personal opinions. If you have an issue, use the Report feature and let Mods or Admins determine what is or is not okay to post.

Thanks.

Sillybilly
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Several posts have just been removed that stemmed from discussion of a poll thread. Vote in a poll and move on, or take the discussion of said poll to a private conversation.

Thanks,
Mad
 
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Thanks,
Mad
 
Defence attorney, Andrew Goldman, in his comments to reporters after today's hearing said, among other things:

"(his) wife fully supports him. But she's scared, she doesn't want to leave her house, she did leave her house."

"Transparency is important. It may be weird for defence lawyers to be arguing that we want things to be seeable."

"Why is this man being convicted in the court of public opinion?"

Re the probable cause seal: "You cannot conduct a 'suppression' issue in public without talking about the facts."

Read Kafka, please. Everyone.

 
I believe that gag orders are for those who are involved with the case. They do not extend to information that is publicly shared in the courtroom (although they may try). I also think if it involves a minor, it can be enforced with the media.

From Wikipedia: "In the United States, a court can order parties to a case not to comment on it but has no authority to stop unrelated reporters from reporting on a case. Thus, information concerning a case is often leaked to the media, and the media often chooses to publicly report this leaked information after receiving it. Most statutes which restrict what may be reported have generally been found unconstitutional and void."
 
Just don't get it. Want to protect witnesses? Redact their names. Not complicated.

They seem to be making out it's the media and public making unreasonable demands for information in this case, but clearly the ones with the extraordinary demands are the prosecution (violating due process).

EDIT: typo
 
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Would love to know what the four exhibits were that the prosecutor showed in court today! They say the redacted PCA was not one of them, that was given to the judge separately to review.

The fact that some witnesses in this case are still underage is a bombshell IMO.
They are mentioned in this broadcast:
It's not that exciting, it's just personal letters/requests.
 
Defence attorney, Andrew Goldman, in his comments to reporters after today's hearing said, among other things:

"(his) wife fully supports him. But she's scared, she doesn't want to leave her house, she did leave her house."

"Transparency is important. It may be weird for defence lawyers to be arguing that we want things to be seeable."

"Why is this man being convicted in the court of public opinion?"

Re the probable cause seal: "You cannot conduct a 'suppression' issue in public without talking about the facts."

Read Kafka, please. Everyone.

6:36 minute marker on the video
Reporter asks attorney to talk about possibility of 2nd suspect involved; attorney replies basically (paraphrasing) that he didn’t hear that and doesn’t know what the reporter who said that was referring to.
Is that the way you understood his response?
I’m feeling all confused now.
Imo
 
6:36 minute marker on the video
Reporter asks attorney to talk about possibility of 2nd suspect involved; attorney replies basically (paraphrasing) that he didn’t hear that and doesn’t know what the reporter who said that was referring to.
Is that the way you understood his response?
I’m feeling all confused now.
Imo
They also oddly edit and end the interview coverage directly after the defense attorney’s response to that question.
imo
 
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