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IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #104

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  1. moonlessnight

    moonlessnight Well-Known Member

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    I think this is exactly what is going on. I honestly think whomever is covering has some delusional belief about the greater purpose or mission of perpetuating this obstruction and obfuscation of information and justice. The sins of the father...

     
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  2. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Could you or anyone please link to who it was that mentioned the couple who were arguing under the bridge? I thought it was a woman and maybe even a FB post but not Libby’s dad, nor her grandad.

    ETA. And iirc it was that same woman who said she didn’t see the girls.

    I’d appreciate it because I’m unable to find the source, thanks.
     
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  3. sillybilly

    sillybilly WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Please Alert on broken quotes and do NOT requote them. You folks know what a broken quote looks like. They are very obvious. My brain is absolute mush from having to clean up a few pages of posts with broken quotes.

    If there are any more tonight, I will remove them completely, along with any/all responses to them.
     
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  4. Cutiekitty

    Cutiekitty Well-Known Member

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    I’d be interested in this too. I remember reading about that somewhere, but wasn’t sure if it was true
     
  5. Backstroke10

    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think they have any blood or semen DNA. Possibly some from a discarded cigarette or something like that but anyone walking there could toss a cigarette butt over the bridge. Like you said, that would be easy to justify. I hope your right because I don’t think they have a suspect in mind....but I hope they do soon. MOO
     
  6. Charlot123

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    I wonder if JP could now help the profilers? I read about Ted Bundy doing it, and then GRK.
     
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  7. Cutiekitty

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    I hope so too. I really do.
     
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  8. mtnlites

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    Yeah, it would be nice if that was clarified. A male/female couple, a couple of girls, an adult couple...I've seen it specified.
     
  9. PaulaDC

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    Moo, Abby and Libby were never actually under the bridge.
     
  10. Backstroke10

    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I’m not convinced at all that he lives there. I think someone could spend a day or two exploring the area, walk across the bridge with no fear of heights/edges, and that person would probably park at the abandoned building. If it was someone that lived there, wouldn’t they park in a more secluded area or ride a bike. MOO
     
  11. Charlot123

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    I think I saw it in Gray Hughes’ interview with BP and MP, and it was BP who mentioned it, but not that they argued. Merely “a couple under the bridge”, a very generic phrase. I remember her saying it because BP speaks in a certain dialect, and what she says stays in mind. (I don’t know whether it is that of Indiana...sounds more Southern to me, long vowels.)
     
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  12. mtnlites

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    Probably not a bike, because that would be more memorable, but IMO they'd have parked in someplace less conspicuous.
     
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  13. steeltowngirl

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    Cheyenne Engles reported seeing the couple.
    It’s in Item 2 of this article, though the arguing isn’t mentioned.

    “I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. I only (saw) a guy when I first got there and another couple once I got on the bridge,” Cheyenne Mekisha Engles wrote. “I didn’t see the girls at all. I also didn’t take the trail that leads to the right. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge.”
    Abigail Williams & Liberty German: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

    *Edited for accuracy and add quote.
     
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  14. Backstroke10

    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    Could someone on a bike ride through some back trails, through the trees, down to the creek area? Is that even possible?
     
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    I mean, it's theoretically possible. The "trails" are rough in that they're not graveled or paved (there's a little gravel here and there), and the one going down to the creek isn't an official trail at all. More like animal tracks. Though I guess it's more prominent now due to the number of people who have walked it. But it would be a tough ride. You'd have to be in good shape and have a mountain bike. In some areas you'd not be on a trail at all. I couldn't do it. Going down maybe.
     
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    So both Cheyenne and OG saw a couple under the bridge? I’m assuming this couple was questioned by police. It seems so odd to me that a couple was under the bridge at roughly the same time this crime occurred. MOO
     
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    Makes sense. Mountain biking is tough especially with no real trail. I couldn’t do it either.
     
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    bbm
    Maybe, this is a very extraordinary person to have in their view as a double murder suspect and they (LE) have a lot "to nibble" on that special problem. MOO
     
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    I corrected my post. The article didn’t say under the bridge. So it may have been on or under, I’m not sure.
     
  20. squareandrabbet

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    What if, by "couple", speaker above meant "a couple of individuals of the male persuasion, who may or may not have been a romantic couple"? I grant that in this situation I'd be more likely to say "I only (saw) a guy when I first got there and another couple [of guys/them] once I got on the bridge". It's not much of a straw, but IMO it is a straw, considering regionalisms. Plus, I've seen some purported "news outlets" who actually engage in the shoddy practice of "cleaning up" grammar of suspects/POI's - noted this in one particular horrible Upper Peninsula crime a few years back, where the only outfit of several who used the subject's bad subject/verb, singular/plural grammar mistakes intact, was MLive.com ... I was both impressed that they did so and horrified to realize that the other outlets had not; because to me, precise language is important.
     
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