Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #134

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  1. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    FB is well known for people who project whatever persona they choose to be perceived as. He’s 5’ 8” and 170 lbs and (allegedly) attacked, confined and assaulted a 9-year old. That’s not my definition of a tough-guy.

    How do we know he’ll physically fight anyone because he’s a tough guy or just the opposite, a little guy who creates inappropriate attention because he can?
     
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  2. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I have 2 thoughts about this
    1. JBC was NOT able to perform with his latest victim, the 9yr old. So it probably was sexually motivated and a "control" thing but he was unable to perform intercourse...and instead did something else sexually.
    So NO DNA on body possibly, until toxicology report comes back to prove anything with L & A .
    2. The creek /water would wash off any DNA on body, clothing perhaps.
    I mostly think girls made a run for it, which is what put them across the creek, but I don't know so maybe that was his plan to rinse off DNA.
    Signature ?? possibly !!!
    still sexual motivated and control freak, IMO
     
  3. minazoe

    minazoe Well-Known Member

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    psycho killer.

    look..it has to be very difficult to rape a 9 year old and I am sure he would have figured it out given more time... as much as you may like to say he cant perform..you don't know this to be true..also remember his first love is to hurt...this is his primary excitement ...the horror..the beating , the strangling of his victims.

    the whole process is his sexual enjoyment...then he has his memories, his souvenirs , photos, video's...what ever all he has done.

    mOO
     
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  4. Imvp2

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    I've been looking at pictures of JBCon his Facebook, link as provided in threads here. I've been searching for pictures of the navy jacket. I'm wondering too, if he had more than one Facebook .....
     
  5. WeathersRabbits

    WeathersRabbits Active Member

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    He's a welder so that's possible. I tried to search for that company name on his Facebook but nothing came up.
     
  6. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate MY GIVE A DAMN'S BUSTED

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  7. FromGermany1

    FromGermany1 I'm the same as always.

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    I would like to compare the proportions head to toe between the two BG and JBC.
     
  8. TheSun

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    I don't know if this is true. From what I've read, I think the murder had to be done quickly. I don't know if this would be a smart 'move' for BG/JBC, because, it's not good to do time-consuming crimes in broad daylight. IMO
     
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  9. FromGermany1

    FromGermany1 I'm the same as always.

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    bbm
    The difference may be, that JBC could not have escaped so easily for 4 years. It must be due to the personality of the actual BG, that he was able to evade the law to this day, despite initial suspicions by the investigators.
    If JBC is the right killer, why should the Delphians be surprised about him, if he were revealed to be the culprit? (DOUG CARTER: No, and I hope one day [when the case is solved] that everyone knows what we know, and I think you’ll be surprised.) IMO
    For now, I'm staying on the fence ......
    Delphi Murders: Superintendent Doug Carter Interview / 4 Year Anniversary - CrimeLights
     
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  10. yelodoggie

    yelodoggie Well-Known Member

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    I didn't either, but when you look at JBC side by side both of those sketches, you can see similarities in both.
     
  11. insearchoflight

    insearchoflight Well-Known Member

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    The sketches..

    two different people. First sketch forget that one. No longer important. Second sketch yes younger guy that’s him.

    BUT!!! The real BG may be a combination of the two ;):mad:o_O
     
  12. yelodoggie

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    The more I read here, the more I think - why would a man attack 2 girls? It just seems like way more trouble to ask for. What if BG was going to abduct the both of them (human trafficking or something) and things got out of hand. (Like Libby putting up a fight) .
    Might one of the girls been killed accidentally, and then the BG panicked? Could he have left their bodies out of sight by that ledge and then come back later and posed them so LE would be distracted by overt clues?
    Just thinking out loud. YMMV.
     
  13. Slawsb

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  14. Slawsb

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    That's my thought EXACTLY and I believe it is him.
    he certainly does look like both sketches just two diferent perspectives
     
  15. Slawsb

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    It's in the thread somewhere and I think it totally sounds like him
    same Vibes
     
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    Yes. Timbre, accent delivery. All match.
     
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    Take a look at his hair as a boy.

    MOO Lots of red.
     
  18. yelodoggie

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    A half mile on foot in the woods is quite a trek.
     
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  19. HUFF

    HUFF Multimedia Visual Artist, Forensics Nerd

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    I very much hope that my gut is wrong for once and this is finally over, but after comparing the tik toks to the recording from libby, I don’t think this is him. I hope I’m wrong. Im from the midwest and there’s definitely some differences in midwest accents that other people might not quite pick up on. I know its only 4 words but the recording sounds like a guy with the slightest hints of irish/british in his accent similar to how most national news reporters speak, this is the type of accent my family has so its familiar to me, and you hear most people talk like this in the larger towns/smaller cities of the midwest. JBC, however has a much more “rural midwest” accent if that makes sense. This is how most of the farmers talk around here. Its got the slightest hint of western/cowboy to it, but still very much midwest. BG also seems to have a lower voice in the recordings than JBC’s tik toks, but that may just be because he was trying to be quiet. I have to emphasize that these accent differences are very slight, and again the sound clip is so short its hard to draw any solid conclusions from it. This is just what I hear. MOO.
     
  20. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    If there was such a photo I’m betting he would’ve deleted it.
     
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