Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #17

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  1. Dogface

    Dogface Well-Known Member

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    I agree! I think he is probably in more decent shape than most people realize...a lot of these guys with the belly and stuff look out of shape, but can be deceivingly strong and agile due to the type of work they do.


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    I dont think he is exposing himself in the photo. IMO I truly believe this perp had a clear agenda. I dont believe they knew him because that would be apparent on the recording. What the voice recording tells me is he was calm and in control. He gave direction and was precise. Had he not been he would of been possibly swearing or saying "this way". By directing them down the hill, he knew where he was going. My gut tells me this was someone that knew that area. Of all the photos ive gone through on the many profiles on FB, I see so many people fishing in their same spots at different times. I also saw one of the girls fishing at a location near a bridge but i cant verify what bridge it is because im not familiar with that area. If the girls frequented the bridge/creek trails, which due to them being dropped off there leads me to believe family is comfortable with their knowledge of the area, it is quite possible the individual/s have seen them there before and fixated on one of them. Again this is my opinion and i wont be surprised if the person in that photo is a local and has fished that spot many times. I just keep praying something breaks and the individual/s are caught soon.
     
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    I agree about the creek .. imo, he made them cross at the widest part of the creek. Maybe he went there because that gave him a better view and it is quieter.. also offered a quicker get away.. North or straight back west.. maybe to his point of origin..??


    It's a wide net.. A local, a mushrooms picker, a hunter... A SK that knows where young people hang out, and has experience with parks, trails ect..

    I hope they got DNA..
     
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    Is that a private road? After looking at the map it appears to be a driveway? If not, that's sparks my interest.


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  6. whiskers

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    I get the feeling and not from today's topic and not from gruesome rumors I've read elsewhere, that they were not simply murdered.
     
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    I absolutely did not photo shop anything.
     
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    Thanks to you and everyone else who answered. I wasn't sure if something happened that I missed.
     
  9. Oregonmama

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    Any word re a presser soon by LE or from the family?
     
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    Forgive me I think I miss sixteen pages every time I put my phone down. But if there was any fishing to be had in that park (was there?) the BG wouldn't have had to have been local to know that area well. Guys who fish and hunt (at least around here, I'm about 2 hours north of Delphi) are known to travel an hour or two to get to their favorite fishing hole or hunting area. I'm not convinced that creek is great for fishing though, and I have no idea if there's a lake nearby.

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    This is a link directly to one of RL's properties. I don't have the link from the Carroll County page itself handy (since I keep this map open in a dedicated tab). You can move around the county and search from here as well.

    https://beacon.schneidercorp.com/Ap...ageTypeID=1&KeyValue=08-06-22-000-015.000-006
     
  13. skibaboo

    skibaboo Mrs Map

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    Not that I have seen.
     
  14. liltexans

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    Just that the family "may" speak "soon". But they haven't confirmed that the family will speak or when the presser would be held.
     
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    I think it's probably safe to assume the parents wrote the obit and probably just made a mistake? Or Abby was left for dead but lingered on longer. Ugh. This breaks my heart.


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  16. Falling Down

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    This is how I believe it went down.

    For folks who might be following this case here at WS for the first time, Gray Hughes' and others' great work show how fhe bridge can be seen from where the girls ended up. MOO is he watched the bridge from that vantage point.

    RE: bootie butlers/bootiebutlers.

    The footwear of the perp may have had them around them. Keep in mind that the ones most people use in various industries tear easily. I've worn them.

    If in fact he was wearing them, the thickness of the material would have to be sufficient, and the material would have to be strong enough, to walk across that bridge.

    When I wore booties in a factory a year ago, even on a smooth, epoxied shop floor, they tore easily. I had to be careful with how I walked, if that makes any sense.

    On that floor, as long as the booties didn't tear, my foot wear wouldn't leave any tracks on the shop floor. As soon as they tore, I left tracks behind me.

    Hope this helps anyone curious about booties. The bootiebutler is the simple mechanical machine which dispenses them.
     
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    OT - I just downloaded Tapatalk. Soooo much better!

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  18. Oregonmama

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    This case hit me really hard. They all do but this one especially. I can not understand why two teens who just wanted to be active and be outside needed to be killed. The sp(s) could have left them injured but he killed them. Why?
     
  19. IndependentFeed

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    It shows up as "Unnamed Road" on google maps. I think its technically a public road as there's a 2nd house that it connects to way southwest of there. If the entire road were his driveway that would mean he would have to own all of that property.
     
  20. #1nana

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    Or perhaps his job involves driving, but not a trucker? Salesman? He did show up at work but left to go get some documents signed or do some customer relations?


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