Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #83

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  1. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation

    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
    Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

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    *Media Maps & Timelines*

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    Rules Etiquette & Information
    Case map by skibaboo updated with grayhuze crime flow video
    grayhuze youtube channel

    Verified Insiders: None in this case at this time. Verified Professional, Member michael.gartley, is a Verified Expert in Imaging Science.

    RULES OF THIS DISCUSSION
    DO NOT post photos of random individuals (including persons featured in MSM articles about other area crimes) to compare to the images of unidentified suspect on the bridge.​


    Do not sleuth family, PERIOD. This includes previous public records which have nothing to do with this case. They are victims here. Plain and simple.


    4) If you feel you have a tip by all means phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.

    Police unveil composite sketch of Delphi double homicide suspect

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    MOST RECENT:

    ISP presser of 10/3/17
    The Indiana State Police can share, that thus far, there has been no information developed to specifically include or exclude Daniel Nations as a suspect in the Delphi homicides. Both state police detectives returned to Indiana late afternoon of October 2nd and will continue to review information gathered over the course of their visit to El Paso County, Colorado

    Could Daniel Nations, 32, get angry enough to pull a hatchet on people he felt offended him, as his arrest charges allege? "Possibly," his wife, Katelyn Nations, 30, told The Gazette. "In a fit of rage, yes."

    DO NOT SLEUTH DN's friends, family, former neighbors, employers, etc. Discuss what is available about DN via media and LE.
     
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  3. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Hey Everyone,

    Abby and Libby's thread is open.

    From now on we are going to stick to our rules and discuss only those suspects or POI"s that have been in the mainstream media.

    No more random sketches. Please do not even ask.

    Terms of Service
    in case you need a refresher course :)

    As Monty Python would say "And now for something completely different".

    I need a favor from someone who knows this case.

    If you could please post a quick update on Abby and Libby’s case I would really appreciate it.

    Most of us can’t follow this case like some of you so we are woefully behind.

    More than one poster can post an update. That’s great.

    Consider things like:

    *What happened with Daniel Nations? Is he still a possible suspect?
    *What is the latest from law enforcement?
    *What is the latest from the girl’s loved ones?

    Something along those lines would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you,
    Tricia
     
  4. FindHG

    FindHG WS Liason Staff Member WS Liason

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    Me too, gregjrichards. Thank you for your continued updates. Hoping for a 2018 with many answers to stop this man.
    https://www.today.com/video/familie...en-up-about-still-unsolved-case-1137315395635

    At about 13 minutes Ms. Kelly mentions (paraphrased)
    NBC affiliate WTHR reports that 'the search has been extended by the FBI into South Eastern Tennessee'

    Police Superintendent Doug Carter is tracking with what is going on in Tennessee and he considers this a nationwide search.



    View attachment 128860 Southeastern Tenn.
    from here

    Interesting, (my brief notes) that LE says no witness saw him, and that the body type and posture of that man on that bridge on that day should tell somebody who knows him who he is, nationwide. That it could be somebody who did this before and do it again because of the alacrity of the crime. So this freak may have covered a lot of ground over time, but honed in on Delphi for some reason.

    He may have tried and failed at abductions before or since farther away?
     

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  5. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Everyone,

    Thought it best to start a new thread.

    A reminder in case you missed my post above, no more random sketches or pictures of persons who are not POI's.

    Again if someone could please post a quick update for those who may be new to the case I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks and carry on, please.

    Tricia
     
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    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    I asked Sheriff Leazenby if investigators thought the killer was an outsider or living among them. "We've discussed that. From the lay of the land, so to say, where this occurred, it would almost have to be someone who is originally from this area and knew how things were laid out, or it's someone who came to our area, if you will, and studied it. For it to be an outsider, yes it's possible, but they sure had to put a lot of work to putting something into this."

    Everyone is pleading that anyone, even with the smallest tip, should call police. It could be the break needed to solve this unthinkable crime, and with DNA evidence from the scene, Sheriff Leazenby thinks the case will be solved. "I wish I could say tomorrow. Obviously I can't, but I feel like somewhere down the line we will get justice for these girls."

    http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Unsolved-The-Delphi-Murders-473950973.html
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Bumping for anyone who missed.
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    https://youtu.be/HqX9OHVYeLc?t=821

    Repeat from previous thread - Today's PC, starting where Carter is speaking about people who have been interviewed not being involved.
     
  10. Peace777

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    What if the person or persons who gave the description of BG to the police sketch artist were wrong in someway? Maybe something they didn't get a good look at say of BG's face, mole, birthmark, hair was more curled something, wouldn't that affect someone being able to not recognizing him? Someone might say that's not so and so because his hair is curly or whatever? JMO
    https://www.quora.com/How-do-sketch...ses-to-produce-accurate-drawings-of-criminals
     
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    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Let's try this again shall we?

    Please do not discuss random people who you think might be the perp.

    If you feel you have a legitimate tip for the police CLICK HERE for the tipline and more info.

    Let me stress that the police need your help but please use common sense when calling in a tip.

    Let's not go off into the twilight zone on this thread OK?

    Thanks,
    Tricia
     
  13. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Thanks for opening a new thread - hopefully we'll all do better this time!

    moo
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Seeing all of these pictures really shows how sweet and innocent these girls were. For the age of 13, I really feel they werenÂ’t like some 13 year old girls now days. No makeup, no revealing clothing, not 15 thousand selfies. They were still children. Doing fun, innocent child things. Breaks my heart!

    With that said, I do not think catfishing, cyber stalking, etc has anything to do with this awful crime! JMO!!!
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Bringing over from the last thread:

    Finally found Otto's list of possible similarities between Iowa cousins and the Delphi girls.


    • two girls aged 8 and 10, and two other girls aged 13 and 14, abducted five years apart
    • both occurred on the 13th day of the month: Friday July 13, 2012 and Monday, Feb 13, 2017
    • girls were at local parks, but in an area where they were separated from other visitors
    • girl's bodies were found 50 feet from a slow river
    • at least one of each set of girls was an avid online communicator
    • at least one of each set lived part time with a grandparent
    • body locations are fishing/hunting/outdoorsman spots
    • body locations suggest that the suspect has a familiarity with the area surrounding the park
    • two set of girls have similar body types
    • State Rd 218 exists very close to both murders, perhaps less than a mile from 4 lane highways
    • both tiny rural towns.
    • Small, inexperienced (in major crimes) police force
    • Crimes both occurred in daylight hours (afternoon)
    • "Bridges" exist at both locations.
    • Weichman Pig dealing operations exist in both areas
    • Transco Railway products/services exist at both locations or very close (Logansport).
    • "Rails to Trails" is an active org in both locations.
    • Trails are located at both Monon High Bridge in Delphi and Meyers Lake in Evansdale (Evansdale Nature Trail/Cedar Valley Nature Trail)
    • Geocaches hidden at Monon High Bridge, Meyers Lake and Seven Bridges
    • The dates are also mirror images ... 7.13.12 and 2.13.17

    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...Delphi-13-Feb-2017-32&p=13240787#post13240787
     
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    Marking spot
     
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    Yes, Jax, thank you so much for the pictures. Abby and Libby should be alive and free and vibrant young ladies enjoying life as is so evident they did from the photos. Instead, the sicko that took everything away from them is the one that is free and I hate that. Can't wait until his evil deeds catch up with him. It is important for me to believe he will pay.
     
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