GUILTY IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #9 *NO JAIL*

[borndem]

Hoping, as sad as their loss is, the Wiegands are just gonna get on with their lives. Let it go.

 

[scruffydog]

It looks like it's possibly another unfounded cAse.

it sounds stupid!!!

 

[borndem]

Look who's back in the news with a new case:
Disney Cruise Line sued over alleged sexual assault of 3-year-old girl

Looking for deep pockets...possibly...

 

[borndem]

It looks like it's possibly another unfounded cAse.

You said it -- why not give it a try -- might work.
If it is real, IMO the target should be the offender, d'oh. Let the authorities deal with it - it's what they do.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Hoping, as sad as their loss is, the Wiegands are just gonna get on with their lives. Let it go.

Had they fixated their anger on the grandfather, they might be able to let it go. I don’t understand absolving SA. Are they truly that dysfunctional as a family? Silence from the father’s family tells me everything.

 

[Kakidoll]

Had they fixated their anger on the grandfather, they might be able to let it go. I don’t understand absolving SA. Are they truly that dysfunctional as a family? Silence from the father’s family tells me everything.

I truly believe they wanted the money more than they wanted answers.

 

[IceIce9]

Another cruise ship tragedy.

A 15-year-old teen died Wednesday after falling overboard a ship returning to Miami from a 5-night trip to the Caribbean and Bahamas.

Teen dies after falling overboard from cruise ship returning to Miami

One passenger tells Crew Center saying: "We just had 3 emergency blasts following captain’s announcement 'Man Overboard.' People started running to the sides to investigate what happen, although it's nighttime. A crew member came to our cabin and instructed us to close the balcony door and draw the blinds. Police will board tomorrow when we return to Miami to investigate this tragic event."

 

[scruffydog]

Another cruise ship tragedy.

A 15-year-old teen died Wednesday after falling overboard a ship returning to Miami from a 5-night trip to the Caribbean and Bahamas.

Teen dies after falling overboard from cruise ship returning to Miami

Jumping and falling are 2 different things...

 

[borndem]

Said to be a suicide. Oh, my, such a sad story. Prayers for his family.

 

[IceIce9]

Jumping and falling are 2 different things...

It was originally reported that he fell overboard, with “Man Overboard” alerts announced.


But apparently the victim did not go into the water but on to a lower deck.

The Miami-Dade Police Department tells PEOPLE that a 15-year-old boy, aboard the MSC Cruise ship, "jumped from a balcony" and landed on one of the decks below. The local medical examiner has ruled the death a suicide.

Teen Dead After Falling Multiple Floors on Cruise Ship in Suspected Suicide

 

[GeorgiaRai]

Cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

 

[ilovewings]

Cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

I remember all the discussion about this case- very intense: I think many of us believed there was no a good case against the Cruise Line.

 

[MsMarple]

Cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

From the link:

Testimony from Elton Koopman, a former security officer of Royal Caribbean, was cited in the Appeals Court decision today.

"He (Koopman) and other crew members discussed at safety meetings the problem of adults holding children in front of open windows Koopman testified that Royal Caribbean knew about the risk of children falling through open windows and adults holding children in front of open windows."

Royal Caribbean argues Koopman is a disgruntled ex-employee.

2019 cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

A court battle has been renewed for a Granger family whose toddler fell out of a cruise ship in 2019.A U.S. Appeals Court ruled that the family of 18-month-old

wsbt.com

If true then it’s important since it indicates RC was aware of concerns about children falling out of open windows. How that impacts this case will be determined by a jury but it doesn’t change the particular facts of Chloe’s death. Anello practically hung her out over the pavement below and was found guilty of negligent homicide.

 

[neesaki]

Cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

Unbelievable. I would want to hear from all the other crew members he claims to have discussed that with.

 

[TDoc72]

I haven’t thought about this case in a long time. I hope this lawsuit goes nowhere. I guess I really hoped the family would just move along, still grieving of course, but letting lawsuits go. There is still no way she would have fallen and died if Grandpa hadn’t lifted her up to and through the window. IMO it still wasn’t a kids play area and the ship is not at fault here.

 

[GeorgiaRai]

I haven’t thought about this case in a long time. I hope this lawsuit goes nowhere. I guess I really hoped the family would just move along, still grieving of course, but letting lawsuits go. There is still no way she would have fallen and died if Grandpa hadn’t lifted her up to and through the window. IMO it still wasn’t a kids play area and the ship is not at fault here.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[MsMarple]

Pure speculation on my part but if it goes to trial and the jury finds negligence by RC then IMO they’ll also find Anello negligent for a percentage. That would reduce the money amount RC would have to pay. I think the jury can also determine the award amount which in theory could be very low. Or high.

IOW there are many possible outcomes. All I know is that it’s impossible to control stupidity all the time.

 

[lonetraveler]

Cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

This really bothers me. There is absolutely no way this toddler could have reached the window and fallen unless an adult picked her up and held her out of the window.

 

[lonetraveler]

From the link:

Testimony from Elton Koopman, a former security officer of Royal Caribbean, was cited in the Appeals Court decision today.

"He (Koopman) and other crew members discussed at safety meetings the problem of adults holding children in front of open windows Koopman testified that Royal Caribbean knew about the risk of children falling through open windows and adults holding children in front of open windows."

Royal Caribbean argues Koopman is a disgruntled ex-employee.

2019 cruise ship death of Granger toddler reexamined as lawsuit reopens

A court battle has been renewed for a Granger family whose toddler fell out of a cruise ship in 2019.A U.S. Appeals Court ruled that the family of 18-month-old

wsbt.com

If true then it’s important since it indicates RC was aware of concerns about children falling out of open windows. How that impacts this case will be determined by a jury but it doesn’t change the particular facts of Chloe’s death. Anello practically hung her out over the pavement below and was found guilty of negligent homicide.

This is ridiculous! On a ship any adult has plenty of opportunities to hold a child over a railing or up to and into a window. Is a ship suppose to encase an entire ship in a capsule so that dumb and reckless adults can't drop children into a dock or ocean?

 

[ElizB]

I haven’t thought about this case in a long time. I hope this lawsuit goes nowhere. I guess I really hoped the family would just move along, still grieving of course, but letting lawsuits go. There is still no way she would have fallen and died if Grandpa hadn’t lifted her up to and through the window. IMO it still wasn’t a kids play area and the ship is not at fault here.

If I remember correctly, he stuck his head out of the window before he put the baby up there.