Interviews Lisa's Parents Good Morning America, Fox, The Today Show 10/17/2011 #2

[salvarenga]

Did anyone else hear on part III of the Fox interview when they the dad was saying first they were telling me she did it? Then they were telling my I did it and then he mumbles something about being there for 2 hours. What is that about? I have not followed this case as closely as others but I am pretty sure that I thought I knew that the dad was gone the whole time. So what's up with the 2 hours he's talking about.

Of course, I was listening and working so maybe I heard it wrong. Anybody else?

 

[Kamille]

Anyone else get the impression that someone told them to go on a media blitz this past weekend and change up these stories that were floating around?

Since they have a new "team"...who might tell them to do this and why?

 

[Patty G]

Was the very last part of FOX interview towards the end of the show posted here? I have up to Part 3 and I think there is a Part 4. TIA

 

[Boodles]

She herself said she was drunk. The media didn't pull THAT out of thin air...she said so. No one is "speculating" on that little piece of the puzzle.

But that does not mean it is necessarily true.

 

[jstwondering]

lol, first i'm out looking for alcohol content on my wine boxes, now i'm measuring what my glasses hold....

my glasses hold 12oz, and that leaves 1 1/2 inch unfilled at the top.

Off topic a bit, but here goes. We have these huge, fancy-smanzy wine goblets for cabernet. We don't use them often, because you can't put them in the dishwasher. Anyways, one night, a guest of ours bet us that he could fit a whole bottle of wine into one glass. Absurd, but he won the bet!!!! The largest Reidel wine glasses hold a .720 ml bottle of wine.

Anyways, we used to joke that if you only can have one glass of wine on your diet, this would be the glass to choose. :crazy:

 

[Leila]

I'm still a number of pages behind everyone here, trying to catch up, but Shepard Smith is going to be discussing this case and the Megan Kelly interview next after commercials.

 

[chieftess]

Did anyone else hear on part III of the Fox interview when they the dad was saying first they were telling me she did it? Then they were telling my I did it and then he mumbles something about being there for 2 hours. What is that about? I have not followed this case as closely as others but I am pretty sure that I thought I knew that the dad was gone the whole time. So what's up with the 2 hours he's talking about.

Of course, I was listening and working so maybe I heard it wrong. Anybody else?

I heard it and also wondered what 2 hours he was talking about?

 

[marge_rita]

She remembers all kinds of things...leaving the window open, being on the computer, turning off the all the lights before going to bed, bonding time in bed with son, etc. etc.

Blacked out? BAH-LONEY!

baloney with cheese

why hasn't she been arrested for child neglect? why is she free?

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Based on today's revelations I would like to revise my theory to include Jeremy. He was the main accomplice. There may be others, such as the neighbor. The times were messed with because the staging was attempting to place Lisa's last minutes at the home at night, after 10:30. Her last minutes there were more like around 5:20 p.m. (when JI left for work - and that mysteriously appears to be a second "shift" as he apparently was only home for 2 hours) (and the video surveillance is his alibi, so it was vital to place Lisa at the home while he was at work) and she was already dead at 5:20, IMO.

The store purchase involved the brother taking Debbie to the store, where bulk baby food/wipes was purchased on one receipt and the wine on another. It is unclear why Debbie was even with her brother at this time, or why she would need a ride. It also appears the brother paid for the wine, yet per report, he was not the one who drank, nor does he appear to be the type that would want wine. I believe the baby food purchase was part of the staging.

The obtaining of the other cell phone on Sunday is troubling. That phone was an older phone and would have less ability to be tracked compared to a newer phone that uses GPS. It may have been a solution to that situation to get an older phone from her Grandpa. The intermittent speaker/microphone problem was likely BS so she could get this phone.

That would mean this was Murder 1.

It also would indicate that Jeremy and Debbie are both in on this plan.

The 8 p.m. dumpster fire at the old casino looks relevant and should be thoroughly looked into. The baby could have been thrown into the river at that location, and some clothes the baby was wearing burned there. Then, the later 2:30 dumpster fire north of their house was STAGED so as to throw detectives off the scent of the real time of the crime. It also was aimed at sending them in the wrong direction, north, instead of to the old casino area, south next to the river. I believe the baby would have been weighed down so that it does not turn up somewhere down stream.

The motive appears to be to capitalize on the financial "rewards" for being involved in a big national media story, ala Casey Anthony.

The problem with injustice like with Casey Anthony is that it sends out a message that this type of crime can be gotten away with. Sociopaths then plot how they can capitalize and profit. They only care about themselves, no one else is real to them, and they have no conscience. Debbie is the real sociopath in the family, but people close to them can be so contaminated from their attitudes and actions that they will slide into a similar type of personality, subject to the orders of the real sociopath. Ie., a robot to the demands of the actual monster. I believe this is what happened to Jeremy.

What is encouraging is that the media networks are asking tough questions, showing discrepancies in statements with side by side videos, and that LE is doing everything possible to gather evidence, find the body AND GET A MURDER CONVICTION. We as a society refuse to let these monsters get away with their evil, and have learned from the Casey Anthony debacle. Thanks to all helping to discover the truth.

MOO.

 

[Boodles]

I heard it and also wondered what 2 hours he was talking about?

Me three. What 2 hours are they referring to?

 

[Abby Normal]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/1...-questions-caused-her-to-fail-polygraph-test/

• The mother of three also admitted that police told her she failed a polygraph test administered after the 10-month-old’s disappearance on the basis of one question.
“[It was], ‘do i know where she’s at’?” she said.
Following the polygraph failure, Bradley told police that it was ‘not possible’ that she knew her daughter’s whereabouts and was concealing them from police.

See, that's another thing that bothers me. IF we are to believe that this happened, and she failed one question- that would mean she passed the other questions. You know that wasn't the only one about her involvement. So IF she failed just one, why just one? Was it worded "do you know where her body is?" and it evoked an emotional response?

I don't know. I'm often playing devil's advocate because it helps me remain objective. I'm not trying to plea innocence, just look at all angles. To me, the limited information we have doesn't add up in either direction.

 

[STEADFAST]

But a restricted phone will redirect an outgoing call to customer service, so perhaps what LE knows is that that a call was attempted in the early a.m.

My point was that I think the statement that the cell phones could receive but not originate calls is bunk. I think LE knows exactly what calls were made and received in those phones.

 

[Karmaa]

She herself said she was drunk. The media didn't pull THAT out of thin air...she said so. No one is "speculating" on that little piece of the puzzle.

Being drunk is only one part of the situation. As others have said, perhaps she is an alcoholic. But drinking in and of itself is not illegal (even if it irresponsible.)

LYING to the police about having been drunk is a big deal. That implies either a coverup or at least a person who will say anything to avoid being caught. Those are bad personality traits, and bad personality traits in one area usually indicate other troubles.

We don't know what Debbie told LE that night. LE has not told us officially. Debbie is telling us, and could well be terribly embarrassed about it - but biting the bullet and putting it out there in public.

I am right back to where I was before - every accusation has a reasonable explanation, and none of the explanations require suspension of disbelief. She should get the benefit of the doubt at least until we hear from LE.

 

[2goldfish]

She "assumes" she checked on Lisa at 10:30pm.

Dear God.

oh no. oh no no no. I havent seen video yet but I dont know if I can bear to I had such trust in this one. I'm losing it hand over fist. this is all wrong.

 

[justbetweenus]

I am having a real issue with the cell phone's now.

First Deborah claimed that 2 of the phones worked and one was non working. She had gotten a phone from her father in law to replace the non working phone and she was programming them which is why she left them on the kitchen counter.

Now she states that they didn't even have any phone service on these phones so they couldn't make outgoing calls, therefore LE is lying to her.

ok, so why get a phone from the father in law and program the numbers into that phone if you don't have any service to use them? I mean, why even bother with it until you get new service established?

Makes no sense at all.

BBM: If they were going to use the dad's phone it would be his server, which more then likley wasn't the same server that cut them off.

 

[huckleberryhound]

It would sure be interesting to hear the neighbor's story about what went on that night.
Has it ever been stated what time she arrived and left the house that night?

 

[chastity]

I am so on the fence about this whole situation, but my gut is telling me that she did not have anything to do with this. I think she has made some HUGE mistakes, and by far is not perfect, maybe not even a good mother, but I just don't think she is responsible for this. I know her stories are changing, and she was drunk, which may be adding to her confusion, but she is truly upset and not faking it. I think she feels terribly guilty that she was drinking and maybe could have heard something had she not been drinking. The story,(stories) definitely do not add up, but I think they are setting there sights on her too much.

 

[ClaireNC]

I think she does have a drinking problem, and here is why. She had a 10 month old, sick baby. She even said herself that the child was very fussy from her cold, so she put her in the crib at 6:40. (snipped see below)

(snipped) Drinks 5 to 10 glasses of wine and ignores the child completely. That tells me that she had a drinking problem because she let her drinking get in the way of the welfare of her children.

ETA: and her flippant answer, that 'the child was sleeping so she deserves her grown up time' is more evidence of her problem. (snipped).

Thank you for your post, I have been saying this all day, but nobody here seems to be listening!

However, I she did not admit "that she did NOT check on her again after that, as she once claimed." If you listened to all three interviews, it becomes clear that she does not remember if she did or did not check on Lisa after putting her to bed. IMO another sign of a drinking problem.

To keep track of the timeline, we do not know if she started drinking before or after she put Lisa to bed. I believe, Dad said he left for work around 5:20 pm in one of the interviews.

 

[TexasCharm]

My point was that I think the statement that the cell phones could receive but not originate calls is bunk. I think LE knows exactly what calls were made and received in those phones.

If you are questioning that this can happen (I think you asked the question on a previous page ..) .. It can. I have a friend who frequently can't pay her cell phone bill and her phone company will allow only incoming calls .. so it must depend on the carrier.

 

[Karmaa]

On this note, I was thinking today- has there ever been a case like this where almost all the incriminating information that fueled public speculation of guilt came from the parent herself to the media- yet that same parent withstood hours of interrogation w/o confessing?

I've seen the opposite, but not this. That said, I'm not as well-versed on various cases as many of you are.


I can't remember one like it.

Good point. Nope I have never seen this, and I have watched a lot of cases. They may have gotten advice to get out and tell all the dirty little secrets of their life because it would all come out anyway. If so, that was bad advice.