Ireland Ireland - Annie McCarrick, 26, US citizen, Dublin, 23 March 1993

[Slawek]

Don't know what this discussion is about. There is no mystery to me. The poor girl was snatched of the road by a killer. It's typical in cases like this. No witnesses,no leads, a woman just vanishes into thin air. She never made to the pub. Just think logically. Why would she have had a secret romance and kept it secret especially that day if she wanted to walk with a colleague of hers who did something to her ankle? Then she calls her secret man to walk with her? That's complete bullocks. The IRA man another bullocks. Another thing to big time gap between the bus 15.30 and 21.00 supposedly seen at the pub. No man who has bad intentions towards a woman meets her up and takes her to the pub risking to be seen. And what during the time between 16.00 and 21.00 they meet each other then talk 4,5 hours and go together to the pub? Bullocks. The doorman confused women especially it was busy that day he said. So,no secret romance,no IRA man,lonely foreign girl loving her new country rushes to the bus forgetting about putting her shopping to the fridge(I sometimes go back to my house to check if I closed the window,switched off the radiator or the lamp) gets off the bus,walks a bit then voluntarily (cos she was naive) or more likely forcibly gets into a car bwith herfuture rapist and murderer who knows the area well. The disappearances in that area happened for many years and very likely it was the same person and it is very likely that the forces had the right man in prison for many years and released him cos they couldn't prove the murders. Just wonder why the heck the Police knowing that disappearances happened over the years in that area and having the man who raped and tried to kill a woman very close to the place where the rest of the victims are hidden cannot find the body? The guy was clever so it is likely that not to leave any biological evidence he must drown the bodies in the water. If he wasn't so clever he just burried them very close to each other. No mystery here. Killed by sadistic and psychopathic personality after being snatched of the road while walking alone.

 

[Boodles]

“Would she have walked from Enniskerry to Johnnie Fox’s on that cold, wet, miserable evening? Enniskerry is 6km away. It would have been dark. It would have possibly been between 8 and 9 o’clock when she embarked on her journey. Would Annie have walked this road?”

IMO, no way! I don't know from Enniskerry to Johnnie Fox’s, but from Dublin to JF’s, it’s a maze of steep narrow roads with hairpin turns, sparsely populated, with mostly farms along the way. Not even a petrol station or shop. I assume it’s the same from Enniskerry.

But why would she, without a car, travel from Dublin to Enniskerry? It’s sort of out in the middle of nowhere, a charming little village, but not much there except a few small shops and a cafe or two back in the 90’s, IIRC. Did she have a man from there whom she had been seeing who then drove her to Johnnie Fox’s?

Johnnie Fox’s is a zoo on most nights and a “must visit” for tourists. I’m sure it has its share of regulars, but the place is extremely busy. I don’t know how a doorman could keep track of a couple. Maybe a bar man could, but not a doorman, IMHO.

 

[Bit of hope]

Hi Slawek, welcome. I must say I have to get used to your way of communicating. Very direct, but I'm ok with that. Remember we all don't not know what actually happened, including you, so I ask you not to pose your opinion as facts or the truth. While reconstructing all the info there is, like you, I doubt if she ever made it to the pub. Timeline is somehow off, her alleged behavior etc. Ok, she could have been naïve, but I can't see, given the timeline, the darkness at a certain time, that her destination was the pub. I think there is no logic about it at all. I believe the doorman was really wanting to help but.....That whole story could have happened but I think the woman he saw was a totally different person and he was far to busy... Leaving her grocery just like that, you would rather think that she was taken from her house. The thing against that is that she was seen on the bus....the person who supposed to have seen her, the police thought was a reliable witness...So adding things up your theory is most likely....snatched while walking. I don't need to be explicit about her probable faith. Reconstructing is also meant try to pin down the area where her body could be. I don't know where the police searched for her or her body and how thorough, the area is pretty rural, fact is her body (I think she is dead since the day ---or a couple of days after--- she went missing) was never found.

 

[Slawek]

Hi Slawek, welcome. I must say I have to get used to your way of communicating. Very direct, but I'm ok with that. Remember we all don't not know what actually happened, including you, so I ask you not to pose your opinion as facts or the truth. While reconstructing all the info there is, like you, I doubt if she ever made it to the pub. Timeline is somehow off, her alleged behavior etc. Ok, she could have been naïve, but I can't see, given the timeline, the darkness at a certain time, that her destination was the pub. I think there is no logic about it at all. I believe the doorman was really wanting to help but.....That whole story could have happened but I think the woman he saw was a totally different person and he was far to busy... Leaving her grocery just like that, you would rather think that she was taken from her house. The thing against that is that she was seen on the bus....the person who supposed to have seen her, the police thought was a reliable witness...So adding things up your theory is most likely....snatched while walking. I don't need to be explicit about her probable faith. Reconstructing is also meant try to pin down the area where her body could be. I don't know where the police searched for her or her body and how thorough, the area is pretty rural, fact is her body (I think she is dead since the day ---or a couple of days after--- she went missing) was never found.

Hi. There is no evidence to suggest that she was taken from her place and very unlikely. IvI' never been to Ireland and don't know the area. Looks that she was taken not long after she got off the bus otherwise she would be seen by someone wandering around. What's strange is that they have a freak who raped and tried to kill a woman in a certain location and they couldn't find the bodies. To me it's obvious that it's the primary area of search. About grocery as I mentioned previously everyone forgets things for example yesterday all day I thought about taking my darts to play today a game and you know what!? Half an hour after I started my jurnejo to work I realised that the darts are missing in my bag. Regards

 

[Bit of hope]

Hi. There is no evidence to suggest that she was taken from her place and very unlikely. IvI' never been to Ireland and don't know the area. Looks that she was taken not long after she got off the bus otherwise she would be seen by someone wandering around. What's strange is that they have a freak who raped and tried to kill a woman in a certain location and they couldn't find the bodies. To me it's obvious that it's the primary area of search. About grocery as I mentioned previously everyone forgets things for example yesterday all day I thought about taking my darts to play today a game and you know what!? Half an hour after I started my jurnejo to work I realised that the darts are missing in my bag. Regards

If I read you right, you think her leaving the groceries is irrelevant. Maybe....I don't think she was taken from her apartment, she was seen on a bus. At least I think that's validated information, still not a fact, the witness could have been mistaken, this happens all the time. Just like the doorman, who was sure that he saw her that night in the pub. We will never know. I can't make out if this behavior was out of the ordinary for her. Maybe she just had a sloppy personality (no judgment here) or was forgetful that day, or in a hurry. Could happen to all of us, including myself.

 

[Slawek]

If I read you right, you think her leaving the groceries is irrelevant. Maybe....I don't think she was taken from her apartment, she was seen on a bus. At least I think that's validated information, still not a fact, the witness could have been mistaken, this happens all the time. Just like the doorman, who was sure that he saw her that night in the pub. We will never know. I can't make out if this behavior was out of the ordinary for her. Maybe she just had a sloppy personality (no judgment here) or was forgetful that day, or in a hurry. Could happen to all of us, including myself.

Hi. She wanted to go for a walk and she had plans with a friend of hers and there is evidence for it. So she rushed for the bus, completely forgot about groceries,probably she was sure she put them away but didn't. It happens. The rest as I said is bullocks,a secret romance, an IRA man... People tend to look for the most difficult explanations while everything is simple and there is nothing to it. For example a person commits suicide by stabbing themselves and writes down a name John with their own blood on the floor. Then it is made public. Do you know how many theories it would cause!? The truth is usually a simple explanation. The version I gave is the most likely to happen. If you don't believe I'll give you a story from my life. So I was a little boy playing next to my house,garden and the road. A car stopped,a guy called me and asked me to get into the car then he would give me a bar of chocolate. But I've always been a cheeky person even as a little boy and started to haggle with him. Told him to show me the chocolate first. Shortly after my Mom looked out of the window and called me back home. The car drove quickly away. Regards

 

[Bit of hope]

Hi. She wanted to go for a walk and she had plans with a friend of hers and there is evidence for it. So she rushed for the bus, completely forgot about groceries,probably she was sure she put them away but didn't. It happens. The rest as I said is bullocks,a secret romance, an IRA man... People tend to look for the most difficult explanations while everything is simple and there is nothing to it. For example a person commits suicide by stabbing themselves and writes down a name John with their own blood on the floor. Then it is made public. Do you know how many theories it would cause!? The truth is usually a simple explanation. The version I gave is the most likely to happen. If you don't believe I'll give you a story from my life. So I was a little boy playing next to my house,garden and the road. A car stopped,a guy called me and asked me to get into the car then he would give me a bar of chocolate. But I've always been a cheeky person even as a little boy and started to haggle with him. Told him to show me the chocolate first. Shortly after my Mom looked out of the window and called me back home. The car drove quickly away. Regards

Hahaahaha yes...when it looks like a horse, it smells like a horse...it's probably a horse. I'm a trustful person, but if there is anything odd, off...my little bells go off...some people don't have them sadly.

 

[Slawek]

Hahaahaha yes...when it looks like a horse, it smells like a horse...it's probably a horse. I'm a trustful person, but if there is anything odd, off...my little bells go off...some people don't have them sadly.

Hi. If certain things make you hahaha it's totally your business. I'm not getting into it. I'm here only to point out at certain things that are very unlikely to happen. Like for example taking for granted that an attractive woman like Annie was must have had a partner,if not a one that everyone knows about then it must have been secret. That's bullocks. I'm after poisonous relationship with a woman and everything was ruined by our workplace where we used to work together. Do you think that after being spat in the face or listening to insults towards me and etc I want to get into another sth like this and all the blame on me again? Bug off!!! I'm happy alone then. Just learn one thing please. If there is no evidence to suggest otherwise you cannot start a theory that sth happened. All the evidence in this case tells you that Annie was a victim and not the only one of the same person who hunted for women in that particular area. And if I know that a guy kiddnaped,raped many times and tried to kill a woman in certain area I just check that area first cos it was his favourite spot,a place which he knew very well,felt confident anf safe over there. And as I said if he was clever and the fact that many women are missing till today says that he was he would probably look for a place with water to get rid of biological evidence unless it is a very hardly accessible terrain that he could afford just to burry the victims knowing that they will not be ever found. Regards

 

[dotr]

April 2019
Ireland's Vanishing Triangle – Unanswered: Annie McCarrick – Part 2 | University Express

"The Gardaí’s efforts brought the bouncer at Johnny Fox’s pub forward with information, as detailed in my previous Unanswered article. This alleged sighting of Annie is now strongly believed to have not been Annie at all, but an American tourist. Similar sightings thought to be Annie came forward, further confusing the timeline of the investigation."

"As I have warned you before, reader, there is a foggy and sad energy surrounding Annie’s case. Annie’s disappearance serves as a beginning edge for the Vanishing Triangle."
"The McCarrick’s belief is firmly in the theory that it was Larry Murphy, an Irish convicted sexual criminal, who was the last person to see their daughter.

The dots connect with Murphy and connect to the other women in the Triangle. Murphy was jailed for 15 years in 2000 after being caught in the act of abducting and attempting to murder a Carlow businesswoman. The woman’s life was miraculously spared thanks to two men passing by and finding Murphy trying to suffocate his victim with a plastic bag. Her fate, much like Annie’s suggested fate, would have been a burial in the Wicklow mountains. It is generally believed this was not his first time committing such a grievous act, due to his remarks made while he was being questioned on the Carlow woman’s injuries, “Well, she’s alive, isn’t she?” and “She was lucky”, his remorse and humanity are non-existent. By coincidence or by device, the Vanishing Triangle came to a halt once Larry Murphy was thrown behind bars.

Larry Murphy, like our IRA suspect, was believed to have been residing outside of Ireland after his release in 2010 after serving just 10 years of his sentence. He now lives in Mullingar with his fellow crime buddies, always under the sharp eye of the press.

The McCarrick family still have hope in their hearts that someday Annie will be brought back to them. Every now and then they set foot on the cold damp ground of Ireland, knowing that their daughter is somewhere out there in the thousands of miles of green".

 

[Bit of hope]

<respectfully snipped> I'm here only to point out at certain things that are very unlikely to happen. If there is no evidence to suggest otherwise you cannot start a theory that sth happened. All the evidence in this case tells you that Annie was a victim and not the only one of the same person who hunted for women in that particular area.

That's exactly what I meant with 'If it looks like a horse, smell's like a horse....It's probably a horse', or 'if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck' In other words given the timeline, information gathered in the investigation the most likely theory is that she went for a walk, was snatched and killed. With the hahaha I was not laughing you in the face, the haahahaha was more like "yes, sounds logical not to make up things". Reading back through my posts I only asked some critical questions about the information available, trying to refute some unlikely theory's, get a few thinks clearer (what is fact and what not) so I really don't understand your somewhat intense reaction.

 

[Slawek]

That's exactly what I meant with 'If it looks like a horse, smell's like a horse....It's probably a horse', or 'if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck' In other words given the timeline, information gathered in the investigation the most likely theory is that she went for a walk, was snatched and killed. With the hahaha I was not laughing you in the face, the haahahaha was more like "yes, sounds logical not to make up things". Reading back through my posts I only asked some critical questions about the information available, trying to refute some unlikely theory's, get a few thinks clearer (what is fact and what not) so I really don't understand your somewhat intense reaction.

Hi. Nothing intense in my reaction. I'm a very collected person and trust me that people must work really hard for a very long time in a bad way to get me intense. And I don't know how a horse or a duck smells . About this case as I said before it's very simple but people tend to go around. Wrong time,wrong place and poor woman came across the wrong chap. Focus on the area where another woman was raped and tried to kill and the others will be found. I cannot imagine a guy being a serial killer to dump bodies each one in a different location and again logically the more places you hide someone the more likely someone will be found and as far as I know there haven't been findings. Regards

 

[Bit of hope]

Here is mister bad in Amsterdam....read the comments. Gives me the creeps....teaming up with another offender.

 

[GracieHolmes]

Article from March 2013

Irish American Annie McCarrick's disappearance 20 years on, Larry Murphy still a prime suspect

McCarrick, a native of Long Island in New York, was 26 years old when she disappeared. She had studied abroad in Ireland and had returned to live and work there while she researched her family’s Irish roots.

McCarrick was sharing an apartment with two Irish girls in Sandymount, Dublin when she went missing. The American girl had been looking forward to a visit from her mother Nancy who was due to arrive just a few days after her disappearance.

On Friday, March 26, 1993, McCarrick didn’t show up to work when she was expected to be collecting wages.

The following day, her friends grew concerned when they arrived at her apartment for a previously arranged dinner party, but there was no sign of McCarrick.

McCarrick’s late father, John, had said he knew something was wrong immediately when Annie’s friends in Dublin phoned back to New York saying they didn’t know where Annie was.

“She was always reaching out and touching someone... She would never have gone a day without talking to someone… We were very, very concerned,” her father told ABC News in America.

Former Garda Commissioner Donnellan also remembers the immediate mystery that surrounded the case. “I was off at the weekend on that Friday and Saturday, and I got a call from Irishtown station that a girl had disappeared in very mysterious circumstances.”

“She was staying in a flat near Sandymount with two other girls. They were going to their homes in Cork so she was at a loose end and phoned a friend to go for a walk in Enniskerry, but her friend couldn’t go so she went off alone.”

McCarrick was reportedly seen and videoed on CCTV while at both an AIB and her local grocery store. After that, she took a bus to Ranelagh, and then to Enniskerry.

The final confirmed sighting of McCarrick came from a work colleague who saw her in a restaurant in Donnybrook. One person came forward to say they thought they had served her in the post office in Enniskerry, although this was never confirmed.

The timeline still confuses me more.
She was reportedly seen and videoed on CCTV footage while on an AIB and her local grocery store....at what time was this? Then there is stated that the final confirmed sighting came from a work colleague who saw her in a restaurant in Donnybrook. A strange way of saying. Do they mean the restaurant where Annie was working? When was she last seen/working there? And why is this so relevant, seeing her in the CCTV footage on the day she went missing, they would have an exact time? Why is this time nowhere mentioned? Also on what day did her roommates leave, when did they saw her for the last time? What was Annie's demeanor?

According to the CP file she was sighted on the 44 Bus from Ranelagh to Enniskerry, at 3:40 p.m. By whom?....the final confirmed sighting was by a co-worker.

Than she took a bus to Ranelagh.. (keep in mind they believe also that her journey took her beyond Milltown, why?) and then to Enniskenny. This is unsure, not a fact, I believe. Was there a stop over on Ranelagh? It sounds like that.

Another unconfirmed sighting of McCarrick was at Johnnie Fox’s pub in the Dublin mountains. Sam Doran, a doorman at the pub, came forward after his colleague Paul O’Reilly pointed out McCarrick’s picture in the newspapers. Doran said who he believed to be McCarrick had come to the door of the ‘Hooley Room,’ without realizing there was a cover charge.

Doran said that the woman was accompanied by a man wearing a wax jacket who paid for her cover and paid for her throughout the evening.

McCarrick was never seen leaving the pub, and the man she was reportedly with never came forward.

Another thing puzzling me. She supposedly came to the door of the Hooly Room, without realizing there was a cover charge. The cover charge was -if I remember right- 2 pounds. Annie had been there before, so how could she not know there was a cover charge, or was this just this evening. I suppose if you go on a daytrip you take money with you for eating, drinking and transport. 2 pounds doesn't seem that much to me. She worked in a restaurant so maybe her wages were not that high, but having totally nothing on you seems odd. Also she went to the Allied Irish Banks (AIB) earlier that day, (CCTV footage confirming this) Did she needed to spare the money for the bus home? And how does the doorman know the guy paid everything that night? Being at the door and not in the establishment...was he serving too?? And why nobody saw her leaving? Where was de doorman. what was he doing?

Earlier this month, a magazine based in Dublin tauted that they may have more information on the Annie McCarrick disappearance, but the notion was quickly dismissed by gardai.

Larry Murphy, a convicted rapist from Co Wicklow, remains a prime suspect in Annie McCarrick’s disappearance. Murphy was jailed for 15 years for the abduction, rape and attempted murder of a woman in February 2000. He was released in 2010 and is now believed to be living in the Netherlands. He doesn't live in Amsterdam anymore, there are articles stating he wanted to come back to Ireland.

There was widespread opposition upon Murphy's early release, and the residents of his home town, Baltinglass, announced that he would not be welcome in the village. After he was released he was considered a high risk offender and was visited by a member of the Gardaí every month.[12]

It was known that Murphy had fled the country and taken up residence in the south of Spain, where he was under surveillance by police. Shortly afterwards he moved to Amsterdam. During his time there witnesses, hitherto unaware of his past, reported that he frequented several bars but was quiet and kept to himself. He drank and smoked cannabis regularly and at times approached and attempted to strike up conversation with young women. In time the media became aware of his location and under increased scrutiny from Dutch police, Murphy fled to Spain through France.[13][14]

Living in the south of Spain, in late May 2011, Murphy's wallet and passport were allegedly stolen while engaging the services of a prostitute. This led him to consult the Spanish authorities in a bid to travel back to Ireland to obtain a new passport. As a result of his background becoming known, there was much dissention among the local population regarding his presence there. Two weeks later, after his new documents were in order, he returned to southern Spain.[13]

In November 2012 he was photographed by journalists in Amsterdam, where he was found living with a friend, a convicted double rapist. This was aired on a 60-minute exclusive episode of TV3's prime-time Midweek TV program.[15]

In January 2013, there were some local rumours (quickly spread on social media) that he had been seen in Saggart, Co. Dublin, but this was quickly denied by crime journalist Paul Williams, who stated that he was then living in Amsterdam.[16]

In June 2014, it was reported that he was living in South London under an alias, working as a carpenter.[17]

Larry Murphy (criminal) - Wikipedia

To this day, Donnellan remains perplexed by McCarrick’s unanswered disappearance: “We had always hoped that we would get the right call. It is so tragic. If people went missing in the US, you would not be surprised, but not in the island of saints and scholars.”

Annie was in Quinnsworth in the morning and paid for 7 items at 11:02.
She was seen by a plumber leave her apartment at 3pm. And again by a chip shop owner running for the No.18 bus. It spotted her and slowed letting her on. She was spotted next in a queue for the No.44 bus from Ranelagh to Enniskerry by an ex-work colleague. The pair worked together in a restaurant in Donnybrook. This lady sat downstairs and thought to speak with Annie when she got on. But Annie ascended stairs to find a seat not noticing her old colleague. This witness' testimony is the last confirmed sighting of Annie. The police are comfortable with this sighting. No one, certainly not the police nor her mum are comfortable she was seen later at Johnny Fox's pub. She had just a tweed jacket and cowboy boots and was lugging a large satchel-like bag. A 6km trek (from Enniskerry to this pub) on a darkening and wet March eve seems so unlikely. An American similar in looks to Annie was in attendance that night and the police feel this is where the story blurs. This woman's movements were frequently reported to the gardai in the wake of the search for Annie hindering the search. She is called Jane I believe. The notion Annie had a secret rendezvous doesn't make sense as she telephoned a friend to accompany her to Enniskerry on her return with her groceries to her apartment. The friend declined. Annie's birthday was the previous Sunday. Her mother was due April 02. She normally made desserts for the Java cafe where she currently worked. She had laundry in the basement she was in the middle of attending to and had left her shopping containing perishables on the counter. She was not acting like someone who intended to be gone several hours. For me I don't understand why she didn't dump groceries as they were in the shopping bag inside the fridge. Why did she suddenly run for a bus when she had spent the best part of 5 hours browsing shops and dropping into a bank. She had said she'd call to collect wages. She had a dinner party the next day. Drinks organised for Sunday evening. She didn't change for her walk. She seemed inexplicably in a mad dash and literally vanished. Unusually neither the bus driver of the No. 44 nor the other passengers could ever recall her being on or getting off the bus. It's an eerie mystery

 

[GracieHolmes]

Don't know what this discussion is about. There is no mystery to me. The poor girl was snatched of the road by a killer. It's typical in cases like this. No witnesses,no leads, a woman just vanishes into thin air. She never made to the pub. Just think logically. Why would she have had a secret romance and kept it secret especially that day if she wanted to walk with a colleague of hers who did something to her ankle? Then she calls her secret man to walk with her? That's complete bullocks. The IRA man another bullocks. Another thing to big time gap between the bus 15.30 and 21.00 supposedly seen at the pub. No man who has bad intentions towards a woman meets her up and takes her to the pub risking to be seen. And what during the time between 16.00 and 21.00 they meet each other then talk 4,5 hours and go together to the pub? Bullocks. The doorman confused women especially it was busy that day he said. So,no secret romance,no IRA man,lonely foreign girl loving her new country rushes to the bus forgetting about putting her shopping to the fridge(I sometimes go back to my house to check if I closed the window,switched off the radiator or the lamp) gets off the bus,walks a bit then voluntarily (cos she was naive) or more likely forcibly gets into a car bwith herfuture rapist and murderer who knows the area well. The disappearances in that area happened for many years and very likely it was the same person and it is very likely that the forces had the right man in prison for many years and released him cos they couldn't prove the murders. Just wonder why the heck the Police knowing that disappearances happened over the years in that area and having the man who raped and tried to kill a woman very close to the place where the rest of the victims are hidden cannot find the body? The guy was clever so it is likely that not to leave any biological evidence he must drown the bodies in the water. If he wasn't so clever he just burried them very close to each other. No mystery here. Killed by sadistic and psychopathic personality after being snatched of the road while walking alone.

Would agree. The Johnny Fox element is far-fetched to say the least

 

[dotr]

Annie was in Quinnsworth in the morning and paid for 7 items at 11:02.
She was seen by a plumber leave her apartment at 3pm. And again by a chip shop owner running for the No.18 bus. It spotted her and slowed letting her on. She was spotted next in a queue for the No.44 bus from Ranelagh to Enniskerry by an ex-work colleague. The pair worked together in a restaurant in Donnybrook. This lady sat downstairs and thought to speak with Annie when she got on. But Annie ascended stairs to find a seat not noticing her old colleague. This witness' testimony is the last confirmed sighting of Annie. The police are comfortable with this sighting. No one, certainly not the police nor her mum are comfortable she was seen later at Johnny Fox's pub. She had just a tweed jacket and cowboy boots and was lugging a large satchel-like bag. A 6km trek (from Enniskerry to this pub) on a darkening and wet March eve seems so unlikely. An American similar in looks to Annie was in attendance that night and the police feel this is where the story blurs. This woman's movements were frequently reported to the gardai in the wake of the search for Annie hindering the search. She is called Jane I believe. The notion Annie had a secret rendezvous doesn't make sense as she telephoned a friend to accompany her to Enniskerry on her return with her groceries to her apartment. The friend declined. Annie's birthday was the previous Sunday. Her mother was due April 02. She normally made desserts for the Java cafe where she currently worked. She had laundry in the basement she was in the middle of attending to and had left her shopping containing perishables on the counter. She was not acting like someone who intended to be gone several hours. For me I don't understand why she didn't dump groceries as they were in the shopping bag inside the fridge. Why did she suddenly run for a bus when she had spent the best part of 5 hours browsing shops and dropping into a bank. She had said she'd call to collect wages. She had a dinner party the next day. Drinks organised for Sunday evening. She didn't change for her walk. She seemed inexplicably in a mad dash and literally vanished. Unusually neither the bus driver of the No. 44 nor the other passengers could ever recall her being on or getting off the bus. It's an eerie mystery

Welcome to Ws GracieHolmes, great first post!

 

[dotr]

Interesting suggestion on a UID thread concerning remains found under concrete in NY. No, not likely Annie since she went missing in Ireland, but possibly a connection to a ring?
NY - NY - Manhattan, 'Midtown Jane Doe' WhtFem 337UFNY, 16-21, under concrete, Feb'03

 

[The Man On The Stairs]

I know the pub well where the poor woman was last seen. I had really good friends who lived down the road from there so I was up there (Dublin mountains) quite a lot. Ireland is so far removed from America or Canada insomuch as we are the size of a postage stamp so it is so rare for people to vanish and not be found. We all know who did that, a serial killer operating in the counties at the time. He was caught trying to murder a woman after raping her, by some hunters in the Wicklow mountains. He did 19 years in prison and refused to ever reveal (even to his brother) the whereabouts of all the missing women at the time that we knew he was responsible for. Didn't have the evidence to charge him, so he did his time, refused therapy which would have seen him get early release, and is now out travelling around Europe.

 

[dotr]

I know the pub well where the poor woman was last seen. I had really good friends who lived down the road from there so I was up there (Dublin mountains) quite a lot. Ireland is so far removed from America or Canada insomuch as we are the size of a postage stamp so it is so rare for people to vanish and not be found. We all know who did that, a serial killer operating in the counties at the time. He was caught trying to murder a woman after raping her, by some hunters in the Wicklow mountains. He did 19 years in prison and refused to ever reveal (even to his brother) the whereabouts of all the missing women at the time that we knew he was responsible for. Didn't have the evidence to charge him, so he did his time, refused therapy which would have seen him get early release, and is now out travelling around Europe.

The serial killer people think killed AM is presently traveling around Europe?!
Who do they think it is?

 

[Legally Bland]

The serial killer people think killed AM is presently traveling around Europe?!
Who do they think it is?

Here is mister bad in Amsterdam....read the comments. Gives me the creeps....teaming up with another offender.

Larry Murphy (criminal) - Wikipedia

 

[dotr]

Larry Murphy (criminal) - Wikipedia

Thanks, now i remember.
Although only convicted of this crime, Murphy is regarded as being the prime suspect in the disappearance of a number of young women in the mid to late 1990s in the Leinster area, when he was known to be living in the region. These women have become known in popular parlance having disappeared within "Ireland's Vanishing Triangle". The list of vanished women include:
"Annie McCarrick, 26 (1993)

1. Eva Brennan, 39 (1993)
2. Imelda Keenan, 22 (1994)
3. Jo-Jo Dollard, 21 (1995)
4. Fiona Pender, 25 (1996)
5. Ciara Breen, 17 (1997)
6. Fiona Sinnott, 19 (1998)
7. Deirdre Jacob, 18 (1998)

No other such disappearances occurred while Murphy was in prison.

In particular Murphy has been suspected of being responsible for the disappearances of Annie McCarrick, Jo-Jo Dollard and Deirdre Jacob, all of whom vanished close to the area where Murphy lived at the time. The bodies of these individuals have never been found despite massive searches and investigations for over 10 years. Despite intensive questioning by Gardaí (Irish police), Murphy denies any knowledge or involvement in the disappearance of these women. Murphy has been ruled out of as a suspect in the Dollard investigation.[11]"

"In June 2014, it was reported that he was living in South London under an alias, working as a carpenter"