Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4

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The US has discussed the possibility of using military force if the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah joins the war by attacking Israeli forces, according to an Axios report.

The report, citing three US officials and an Israeli official, came as Iran warned Israel on Monday that Hezbollah was close to entering the Hamas war.

The report writes:

Two U.S. officials said Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Arab leaders in the region, with whom he’d met in recent days, that the U.S. “is not fooling around” by sending so many military assets to the region in support of Israel.
The scenario of using US military force if Hezbollah were to join the war “has come up in several White House meetings in recent days,” it says.

The two U.S. officials stressed the administration is doing all it can to keep Hezbollah out of the war — but also is preparing for the opposite scenario.

 
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Red Cross 'shocked and horrified' by hospital strike​

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) says it is "shocked and horrified" by reports of the huge blast at the Al Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza.
"Hospitals should be sanctuaries to preserve human life, not scenes of death and destruction," the ICRC said in a statement.
"No patient should be killed in a hospital bed. No doctors should lose their lives while trying to save others. Hospitals must be protected under international humanitarian law."
Hamas have blamed an Israeli air strike for causing the explosion.
But Israel denied its military was involved and said the blast was caused by rockets fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The militants have also denied blame.

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More from @Dotta’s link about the tunnels, good piece by DAVID AVERRE


“Hamas 'knows its tunnels by heart,' said Colin Clarke, research director at the New York-based Soufan Center think-tank.

'Some are probably booby-trapped. Preparing to fight in such terrain... would require extensive intelligence... which the Israelis may not have,' he added.

'When tunnels are found, they can be closed off to shut in the people inside. In this case, the order is likely to be for no quarter to be given.'”

[…]

“The IDF has long been trying - and failing - to destroy the huge network of tunnels which were established after Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in 2007.

Not only do they run underground throughout Gaza, but several reach into Israeli territory and have long served as a launch point for many of the Hamas' attacks.

Tunnels were among Hamas' most effective tools during the 2014 war with Israel, with militants using them to move weapons, enter the Jewish state, ambush IDF soldiers, and at times even return to Gaza through the underground passages.

But it is thought Hamas has expanded the network considerably since then, perhaps in preparation for their October 7 attacks.

The first Hamas tunnels were built in 2007 between the Gaza Strip and Egypt and were designed for smuggling consumer goods to bypass the Israeli blockade.

However, some rudimentary networks existed in Gaza as early as 2002. One was used to bomb an Israeli outpost within the Strip in 2004. A second tunnel bomb attack on an Israeli outpost took place in December 2004, killing five IDF soldiers.”

[…]

“Israel has long struggled to wipe the system out, despite top of the range military and intelligence equipment.

This is primarily because the tunnels, which are believed to have cost between $30 million (£21.3 million) and $90 million (£63.9 million) to build, are extremely difficult to detect from the air.
Some of the three dozen tunnels built since the end of the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict are estimated to have cost $3 million ($2.13 million).

The tunnels are reinforced with concrete to protect them from airstrikes and from caving in.

Footage from inside some of the tunnels shows a sweaty and cramped environment, not tall enough for fighters to stand up straight.

But others are well constructed, reinforced and large enough for troops to sprint through or move contraband.

By 2013, the network had definitively pivoted away from the Egyptian border and towards Israel and there were at least three tunnels under the Israel-Gaza border, two of which were packed with explosives.

The underground network now branches hundreds of miles through the Gaza Strip reaching the towns of Khan Younis, Jabalia, and the Shati refugee camp. They also stretch into Israel.

The tunnels are used by Hamas and other Islamist groups in Gaza, including the Islamic Jihad movement in Palestine, all of whom say tunnels are needed for defence, and to get around the difficulties imposed by Israel's strict border controls.”

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A Palestinian militant emerges from a tunnel in Rafah, southern Gaza strip (file image)

A Palestinian militant emerges from a tunnel in Rafah, southern Gaza strip (file image)


The network of tunnels were built after Hamas took power in the Gaza Strip in 2007 and have since been used to launch several attacks on Israel (pictured, Palestinian militants in the tunnels)

The network of tunnels were built after Hamas took power in the Gaza Strip in 2007 and have since been used to launch several attacks on Israel (pictured, Palestinian militants in the tunnels)


Israeli soldiers aim their weapons toward their colleague dressed as a Palestinian militant, while he exits from a fake tunnel, during training session simulating urban fighting at the Zeelim army base, southern Israel, Jan. 4, 2022

Israeli soldiers aim their weapons toward their colleague dressed as a Palestinian militant, while he exits from a fake tunnel, during training session simulating urban fighting at the Zeelim army base, southern Israel, Jan. 4, 2022


Hamas uses the network to hide rockets and other munitions, facilitate communication within their organisations, conceal militants, launch attacks, and conduct training (pictured, a Palestinian youth crawls in a tunnel during a Hamas graduation ceremony)

Hamas uses the network to hide rockets and other munitions, facilitate communication within their organisations, conceal militants, launch attacks, and conduct training (pictured, a Palestinian youth crawls in a tunnel during a Hamas graduation ceremony)
Great, informative post about the tunnels (for those of us who are visual). Thanks for posting.
 
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"No safe passage has been granted" for humanitarian aid from Egypt to Gaza, foreign minister says​

From CNN’s Martin Goillandeau, Ami Kaufman and Christiane Amanpour

A miles-long convoy of humanitarian assistance between the cities of El-Arish and Rafah was awaiting the possibility of entering Gaza on Tuesday, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said.

“Until now, there is no safe passage that has been granted,” Shoukry told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.
Shoukry said the Rafah crossing was bombed four times over the past few days. He added that four Egyptian workers were injured while trying to repair some of the damage caused by the blasts.

“The crossing has sustained damage, the roads, access roads between the Egyptian and Gaza side have severe damage and need repair,” Shoukry said.
He said that they do not have "any authorization or clear, secure routes for those convoys to be able to enter safely and without any possibility of their being targeted,” adding that trucks carrying humanitarian aid were parked on the side of the road.

Asked whether Egyptian authorities would accept and welcome refugees, the foreign minister voiced concerns about the massive influx of people. "Why Egypt should allow for the influx of 1 million or 2 million inhabitants who are suffering because of the consequences of them being targeted unnecessarily," he said.

Shoukry also condemned the October 7 attacks on Israeli civilians, calling them “totally unacceptable.”

It is “horrendous to see whatever imagery of targeting civilians. it's totally unacceptable,” he said. “Civilians should not be in anyway subject to any form of military activity, and it was a shock,” Shoukry added.

 

What's been happening?​

Hundreds of people are feared dead after a huge explosion at a hospital in Gaza City where Palestinians injured in the Israel-Hamas war were being treated, while others were seeking safety after days of Israeli air strikes.
  • The Hamas-led authorities in Gaza say 500 people died in the explosion at the Al Ahli hospital, with Hamas and Israel blaming each other for the explosion
  • The BBC spoke with an unnamed doctor who was working at the hospital - which is funded by the Anglican Church - when the explosion occurred, and who said there was total devastation, and that hundreds were killed or injured
  • Hamas said an Israeli air strike on the hospital was to blame, describing it as a “war crime”, whileIsrael denied its military was involved and said the explosion was caused by rockets fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad
  • Islamic Jihad, the second biggest militant group in the Gaza Strip, has denied responsibility
  • The incident came not long after the UN said a school sheltering thousands of people in central Gaza was also hit, killing at least six people
  • There were also protests in the occupied West Bank city of Ramallah on Tuesday night, with demonstrators opposed to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas clashing with security forces who responded by firing tear gas
  • The dramatic day of developments comes ahead of a visit to the Middle East by US President Joe Biden on Wednesday, which will include a trip to Israel
 
It's really hard to know what to believe. Neither are going to admit to bombing a hospital are they?
further complicated by having built a reputation for not investigating war crimes during previous Intifadas

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It's all mind-boggling to me
 
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Ugh, BBC. Honestly, I don't know how Israel can prevent Hamas from claiming the supplies/aid at this point, or if they can prevent Terrorists from targeting these areas (and then blaming IDF!)

I've been wondering how they can safely open the border. Only allowing women, children and elderly to get supplies? Having to come in person to claim? I don't know a good solution.
CNN is also reporting it now:

 
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regardless of who's responsible, that's a huge amount of terrible suffering for everyone at that hospital

and also

'Following the shocking Gaza hospital blast:
- Palestinian Authority leader pulls out of mtg with Biden
- Jordan then cancels the summit
- violence across the West Bank
- Hezbollah in Lebanon calls for a ‘day of rage’ on Wednesday,
That’s the crisis President Biden flies into'

Mark Urban

 
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Joe Biden has departed the White House en route to Joint Base Andrews for his trip to Israel and Jordan, the New York Times reported.

The US president is due to travel to Israel tomorrow, where he is scheduled to hold talks with the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Biden was also scheduled to go to Amman for talks with Jordan’s King Abdullah, the Egyptian president, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, and the Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas. As we reported just now, that summit has now been cancelled, according Jordan’s foreign minister Ayman Safadi.


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Jordan cancels summit with Biden and Palestinian leader​

Jordan has cancelled a summit between the US president, Joe Biden, and Egyptian and Palestinian leaders in Amman tomorrow, Reuters reported that Jordan’s foreign minister said.

The summit was due to take place on Wednesday between Biden, Egyptian president Abdel Fattah al Sisi, Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, and Jordan’s King Abdullah.

 
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Joe Biden has departed the White House en route to Joint Base Andrews for his trip to Israel and Jordan, the New York Times reported.

The US president is due to travel to Israel tomorrow, where he is scheduled to hold talks with the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Biden was also scheduled to go to Amman for talks with Jordan’s King Abdullah, the Egyptian president, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, and the Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas. As we reported just now, that summit has now been cancelled, according Jordan’s foreign minister Ayman Safadi.

 

Uncertainty in responsibility of Gaza hospital strike​

The al-Ahli Hospital hospital in Gaza City was bombed Tuesday killing hundreds of people, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which blamed the carnage on an Israeli airstrike. The Israeli military said that the blast was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.

 
Hezbollah announces an “unprecedented day of rage” against Israel to take place on Wednesday, according to Arab media reports

Oh Dear God!
Anyone in Paris, Brussels, London need to stay off train platforms and trains. Stay out of tourist spots like Brussels Grand Market that is open and has only 4 narrow exits. Stay out of stadiums and concert venues.
During prior attacks heavily armed military rode on trains during my time there and we had armored tanks out front of our hotel.

Stay out of outdoor restaurants and do not sit at window seats in restaurants. My husband and I would be careful to not dress as Americans and would not speak English in certain areas out in the open.
I had some scary situations during that time. I assume these cities will step up with security as they did before.

I actually got to watch Belgiums military training for terroist attacks in the city of Kortrijk and got great pictures. What was funny was Belgians went about as nothing while military was throwing fake grenades at the train stations. Belgians are not fazed by anything.

I mentioned before I was at the Brussels airport the day and time before the bombings. I had said to my husband that it was dangerous you could get so far into the airport before you are checked. A chill went up my spine. A month later coming back my husband and I ended up in the closed off section of the airport and saw the destruction. They had very lax security.
 
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