KY KY - Nancy, WhtFem Skeletal 39UFKY, 24-45, synovial joint pathology, Jul'95

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  1. ihadcabinfever

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    Laura Louise Smith Williams
    Missing since July 25, 1994 from Connelly, New York.
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1117dfny.html

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    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: April 17, 1972
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 22 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 130-145 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
    Marks, Scars, Tattoos: She has multiple sclerosis. Tattoo on upper right arm of "John". Tattoo on leg above knee of a heart, but looks like two rings. She has two scars on her stomach.
    Clothing: When last seen, she was wearing denim shorts and sneakers with a light- colored blouse. Carrying a small two-handled beige duffle style bag.
    Dentals: Available.


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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Laura Smith Williams, was last seen at her home in a trailer park located in Connelly, NY on July 25, 1994 by a neighbor. The neighbor stated Williams willingly got into a vehicle parked in front of her trailer around 10 a.m. with 2 unknown white males on the day of her disappearance.
    Her residence gave no indication of force or foul play. Williams left behind three children and medication used to control her multiple sclerosis.
    At the time of her disappearance, Williams was separated from her husband and the father of her two boys. She was reported missing by her live-in boyfriend and the father of her daughter.
    Police believe foul play is likely due to Williams leaving behind her medication, the length of time she has been gone and because she has not turned up in credit card and driver's license databases.

    In 2006 a suspect told authorities he was involved in the disappearance of Laura , and the disappearance of Cindy Rowles. He has not ben charged in either case.



    Unidentified White Female

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/39ufky.html

    Located on July 2, 1995 near Nancy, Pulaski County, Kentucky
    Estimated Date of Death: 1-5 years prior
    Cause of death was homicide.
    Skeletal Remains


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    Vital Statistics


    Estimated age: 24 - 45 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'1 - 5'3".
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Short, straight, medium brown hair. There was evidence of synovial joint pathology in her bones, a joint disease which may have caused her to have limited movement and strength in her wrists.
    Dentals: Available. Evidence of previous dental care. Some fillings.
    Clothing: She was wearing a pinkish color spandex shirt; a short denim skirt; and white tennis shoes.


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    Case History
    The victim was located in a wooded area near the Cumberland Parkway in Southern Kentucky. Other roads of access are: US Highway 27, Ky Highway 80, Interstate 75, and Interstate 65.
    Her throat had been slashed and she had sustained a broken rib at the time of her death.


    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this victim's identity or the circumstances surrounding her death, please contact:
    Pulaski County Sheriff's Department
    606-678-5145
    All information may be submitted anonymously.

    NCIC Number:
    U-939270502
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information: Pulaski Sheriff
    Unidentified Remains.Net


    Synovial Joint Pathology in her bones, a joint disease which may have caused her to have limited movement and strength in her wrists?

    Could this be related to and or multiple sclerosis?
     


  2. ihadcabinfever

    ihadcabinfever New Member

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    Just found this as I was looking stuff up on KY. Multiple Sclerosis (MS) causes loss of muscle ability and activity. It doesn't deal with the joints in damaging them. However, it is entirely possible that she could have had both and the joint disease not diagnosed because of the MS. They do appear to have very similar eyes and facial features. My grandmother had MS most of her life and she also had joint issues that were unrelated to her MS.

    BTW, I think you have two cases mixed up in your second post. The UID Female from Kentucky was found in Nancy, KY in 1995 (remember that because we passed by there to an apple orchard right before she was found -- only about 30 minutes from my parent's house). You have it listed as near Louisville in 2005. Just thought I'd point it out.... sorry if I offended you....
     
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  4. Marilynilpa

    Marilynilpa Well-Known Member

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    Here is something I found about synovial joints. . .

    "Synovial joints (or diarthroses, or diarthroidal joints) are the most common and most moveable type of joints in the body. As with all other joints in the body, synovial joints achieve movement at the point of contact of the articulating bones. Structural and functional differences distinguish the synovial joints from the two other types of joints in the body, with the main structural difference being the existence of a cavity between the articulating bones and the occupation of a fluid in that cavity which aids movement."

    This info comes from Wikipedia.

    I think if someone had MS, they could also have a (possibly) undiagnosed problem with these joints.

    It sounds like you have some good similarities. Since skeletal remains were all that were recovered from the unidentified female, there would be no way to determine whether she had any tattoos, such as the ones Laura Williams had.

    You are really getting good at finding these possibilities!
     
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  5. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 39UFKY
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/39ufky.html
    NamUs UP Case 83 https://identifyus.org/cases/83

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    Reconstructed Images of Victim

    # Unidentified White Female Located on July 2, 1995 near Nancy, Pulaski County, Kentucky
    # Estimated Date of Death: 1-5 years prior
    # Cause of death was homicide.
    # Skeletal Remains

    Vital Statistics
    * Estimated age: 24 - 45 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'1 - 5'3". Slender build
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Short, straight, medium brown hair. There was evidence of synovial joint pathology in her bones, a joint disease which may have caused her to have limited movement and strength in her wrists.
    * Clothing: Remnants of reddish-colored stretch top (spandex); blue jean miniskirt; and white tennis shoes.
    * Dentals: Available. Evidence of previous dental care. Some fillings.
    * DNA: Available in FBI NMPDD

    Case History
    The victim was located in a wooded area near the Cumberland Parkway in Southern Kentucky. Other roads of access are: US Highway 27, Ky Highway 80, Interstate 75, and Interstate 65.
    The campers discovered a human skull, after authorities searched they found almost an entire skeleton, some hair and some clothing.
    Her throat had been slashed and she had sustained a broken rib at the time of her death.

    Rule Outs (per NamUs)
    Jeri Duvall
    Shaylene Farrell
    Christine Jarrett
    Deborah Overbaugh
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This MP case just showed up in Charley and DoeNet today, and browsing through possible UID's in DoeNet I came across 39UFKY.

    Rose Mary West
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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/west_rose.html

    There are a few discrepancies. RMW is a little taller than the UID's height estimate, her hair is listed as "red", although it appears brown in the photo.

    There is also no mention of any physical ailments described of the UID, but the available info is thin on RMW.

    RMW appears to have a slight gap between her two front teeth (8 and 9), but since the UID's #8 was missing postmortem, any gap might not have been apparent.

    Her last known location (Columbia KY) is only 35 miles down the Luis B Nunn Cumberland Pkwy from where the remains were found (Nancy KY). The timeline is consistent, and her age is at the upper end of the range.

    She also bears a pretty close resemblance to the recon.

    All in all, this isn't the strongest possible, but a definite "maybe", IMO.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    Any updates?
     
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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    Damn, came to suggest Patricia Calloway but just saw she is ruled out.

    And Dawn Haines but she is ruled out too. damn
     
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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    Got a email back from the case worker and she said she will look into it :)
     
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    hayaletcatcher Active Member

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    Glenda Fields is now on rule out list.

    Robin Abrams 1962 Illinois
    Susan Adams 1947 Idaho
    Julie Brumfield 1959 Louisiana
    Patricia Calloway 1954 Kentucky
    Bobbi Campbell 1970 Utah
    Debra Childers 1954 North Carolina
    Jeri Duvall Unknown Illinois
    Shaylene Farrell 1976 Ohio
    Glenda Fields 1956 Tennessee
    Melanie Flynn 1952 Kentucky
    Denise Fraley 1952 Iowa
    Pamela Golden 1949 Arkansas
    Dawn Haines 1967 Kentucky
    Angelia Hilbert 1966 Kentucky
    Jodi Huisentruit 1968 Iowa
    Christine Jarrett 1956 Maryland
    Elaine Johnson 1949 Ohio
    Michele Julson 1968 North Dakota
    Frances Kiefer 1949 Pennsylvania
    Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
    Gloria Korzon 1943 Pennsylvania
    Ella Beth Lodermeier 1948 South Dakota
    Elizabeth Maggard 1961 Kentucky
    Donda Martino 1961 Tennessee
    Linda McHugh 1964 Michigan
    Dawn Miller 1970 Pennsylvania
    Cheryl Murray 1951 Illinois
    Madelene Neace 1955 Ohio
    Vicki Nisbett 1961 Texas
    Deborah Overbaugh Unknown New York
    CHARLOTTEAL POLLIS 1965 Ohio
    Tricia Reitler 1974 Indiana
    Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
    Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
    Tiffany Sessions 1968 Florida
    Sharon Sons 1965 Kentucky
    Karen Spencer 1972 Ohio
    Colleen Voitik Mc Hugh 1963 Illinois
     
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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    Damn :(
     
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    lindamichelle1 Active Member

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    Came to check in on this case I had bookmarked and see I was the last comment 2 years ago!
     
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    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    A note from Unsolved Appalachia:


    Pulaski County Jane Doe – UNSOLVED APPALACHIA

    Can someone check the rule outs list?

    UID's NAMUS: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
    Christie's NAMUS link: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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  19. MadMcGoo

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    39UFKY
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    Date of Discovery: July 2, 1995
    Location of Discovery: Nancy, Pulaski County, Kentucky
    Estimated Date of Death: 1991-1995
    State of Remains: Skeletal
    Cause of Death: Homicide

    Physical Description
    Estimated Age: 24-45 years old
    Race: White
    Sex: Female
    Height: 5'1" to 5'3"
    Weight: Unknown
    Hair: Short, straight, medium brown.
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Slender build; There was evidence of synovial joint pathology in her bones, a joint disease which may have caused her to have limited movement and strength in her wrists.

    Identifiers
    Dentals: Available. Some evidence of dental care, including fillings.
    Fingerprints: Not available.
    DNA: Available.

    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: Remnants of reddish-colored stretch top (spandex); blue jean miniskirt; and white tennis shoes.
    Jewelry: Unknown
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown

    Circumstances of Discovery
    The victim was located in a wooded area near the Cumberland Parkway in Southern Kentucky. Other roads of access are: US Highway 27, KU Highway 80, Interstate 75, and Interstate 65. The campers discovered a human skull, after authorities searched they found almost an entire skeleton, some hair and some clothing.

    Her throat had been slashed and she had sustained a broken rib at the time of her death.

    Investigating Agency(s)
    Agency Name: Kentucky Medical Examiner
    Agency Contact Person: Amy Burrows-Beckham, M.D.
    Agency Phone Number: 502-852-5587
    Agency E-Mail: Amy.Burrows(at)ky.gov
    Agency Case Number: FA-1995-35

    Agency Name: Pulaski County Sheriff's Department
    Agency Contact Person: Todd Wood
    Agency Phone Number: 606-678-5145
    Agency E-Mail: N/A
    Agency Case Number: Unknown

    NCIC Case Number: U939270502
    NamUs Case Number: 83

    Information Source(s)
    NamUs
    Pulaski County Sheriff (archived)



     
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    There’s something extremely familiar about her o_O
     
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