I.....once again.....never said Terri left the school with Kyron and immediately drove to pick up DeDe. You do like to twist words.
And I said the person I originally replied to made that claim. I was responding to it, then you responded to me.
Desiree got her information from LE.....so she is a very credible source. She has actual facts about the case. Since her husband is a detective he's also a good resource for Desiree. He knew early on that Terri was guilty.
Desiree has told demonstrably wrong things.
* That Terri couldn't see Kyron from the top of the stairs.
* That Terri left the second Fred Meyer at 9:40 and not after 10:00
* That Terri arrived at the gym at 12:20 and not 11:39
It's also one thing to get information from the police, another to understand it or remember it correctly.
LE has never said there were no witnesses, and they have never released the names of any witnesses either. You have no way of knowing where anyone was that day, inside or outside, because LE has not publicly released everything they know about that morning.
I'm saying Desiree can't have it both ways. Either the classmate witness was inside the school, which she herself claims (and it was after 8:45 so he should have been in the classroom with everyone else) or he was in the parking lot at 8:50. According to Desiree she got the information about these witnesses at the same time she was informed about the landscaper's testimony, Terri driving her red car on rural roads the days before and the upcoming sting, all on June 26th (interestingly, it is kind of shoved in there and then not really referred to in subsequent chapters - and Desiree would not speak publicly about it for many years). By August 11th, the MCSO were still trying to get info about Terri's parking at the school - why, if they knew she had left with Kyron? And what would be the point of parking in a "hidden" area (as Desiree claims) if she's just going to stroll across the parking lot in full view of everyone?
The classmate has never spoken publicly about seeing them leave together. In fact, we have comments from him in the media, and they are inconsistent with him having seen Kyron leave with his step-mother. We do have a public comment from someone who saw Terri leave - Kyron's classmate TP - and he says he saw Terri leave alone.
MCSO asked questions and thoroughly investigated everything and everyone who was at Skyline that day. They were gathering information and following up on all leads while at the same time doing a parallel investigation on those who were in Kyron's family and circle of friends. That's how LE does missing persons investigations. It's standard procedure. So Terri was never a dead end, and in fact she became the prime suspect for good reason. The evidence led them to her.
This is what almost every botched investigation looks like before it's revealed to be botched. Brittanee Drexel, Jacob Wetterling, Meredith Kercher, all cases where the investigators did fatal errors early on and then went down the wrong investigative path for years. Even Desiree admits that the FBI had a different kind of suspect in mind, but the MCSO was the lead on the case and they called the shots.
Kyron lived with Terri and Kaine,and she was a stay-at-home mom and step-mom. She had the permission of his custodial parent to act as a primary caregiver, and she was legally married to Kyron's Dad. There was no court order at that time that she had to follow, so there was no basis for custodial interference. So....no. They would not arrest her for that because it would be a waste of time.
No, sorry, that doesn't work. Even if Terri could be considered a custodial parent, there is one who actually was - Kaine Horman - and he was deprived of his custodial rights by the one who removed Kyron from the school, custodial or not. If Terri was the one who removed Kyron from the school and took him away from his home, they could absolutely charge her and have a pretty good case too - if there were actual witnesses who saw them leave.
But there weren't.
It's not ridiculous that Terri had Kyron in the truck since she left the school with him. It's not hard to conceal a child, especially when you park where she did in the store parking lots. Kyron was not even allowed to get out of bed in the mornings until Terri gave him permission to get up. He just laid there in bed..waiting. I have no doubt he would've stayed hidden in the truck if she told him to do that. I also think it's possible that he was drugged as soon as they left the school.
She parked in perfectly visible spots in public parking lots.
As you can see, plenty of parked cars around, not to mention driving past. If Kyron was drugged, with what? What would a housewife have access to that would work within minutes and leave the child knocked out for at least an hour?
She wanted Kaine's truck that day for a reason.....and it had nothing to do with his science exhibit. It was a generic vehicle and easier to drive on wooded backroads.
Nah, it was the project. She had thought she could bring it back after Kyron's presentation, but then there wasn't one, so she left and emailed the school to ask when she could pick it up.
Terri had the means, the motive, and no alibi.
Means? She had no time to kill Kyron before her errands and no way of keeping him unobserved if she did it after.
Motive? What motive? All we have is emails that Desiree claims means Terri wanted Kyron dead, emails that Kaine says don't say that. What else? From everyone else's account, Terri was an involved, attentive though slightly overbearing mother figure. Why kill Kyron? What would she gain?
No alibi? She was seen leaving the school without Kyron, then confirmed at multiple locations in public right up until 10 - without Kyron. Kyron was seen in the school after she left, and was confirmed missing at 10. I'd call that an alibi.
The guilty party is usually someone close to the child in cases like this one.
Cases aren't proven by statistics - the very thought is horrifying. If this was a stranger abduction, yes, it's an outlier - but outliers do happen, and precisely because they're rare and unconnected to the victim, they're much harder to solve. 13 years is considerably less than the Wetterling family had to wait for their son's murderer to be apprehended, though more than the Drexel, Hedgepeth or Celis families.
Terri gave up her baby to save herself and never looked back...because she is guilty. It's not a complicated crime. DeDe was given immunity for a reason. We don't know what that reason is, at this point.
DeDe pleaded the 5th...so yes....she has refused to answer questions.
She didn't plead the 5th to the investigation, or the Grand Jury. She pleaded the 5th at Desiree's ill-advised civil trial, which no one besides Desiree wanted. And if there is an actual criminal investigation ongoing from which you yet have no immunity, then yes, you plead the 5th regardless of guilt. Any lawyer would tell you that.
DeDe went before the Grand Jury. She answered their questions. She got immunity. She even took a polygraph (ugh). She has cooperated with law enforcement. Much like Kaine isn't required to accede to Desiree's demands to have private parties do additional searches of his property, DeDe isn't required to cooperate with a civil trial whose official purpose is to gain money for the plaintiff, not to investigate the case.
