LA - Baton Rouge. 3 officers killed/3 wounded, 17 July 2016

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article90183857.html

He took up anti-government views, and while he said he didn’t want to be affiliated with any organized groups, he was a member of a bizarre offshoot of the sovereign citizen movement and had been associated with the Nation of Islam. He saw police as part of the government and was outraged by the recent spate of police shootings of black men.

Followers of the sovereign citizen movement believe the government is corrupt and has no jurisdiction over them. Federal authorities consider the movement a domestic terrorist threat, and the movement continues to swell, with violent incidents erupting regularly.

Long declared himself a sovereign in records filed with the Jackson County recorder of deeds last year.

“No doubt at all,” said J.J. MacNab, an author who for two decades has been tracking anti-government extremists. “He’s 100 percent sovereign citizen.”

MacNab said Long fell into the Moorish Sovereign category, more specifically the Washitaw Nation of Mu’urs.

“This group believes that they are indigenous to the continent and therefore above all federal, state and local laws,” said MacNab, who also is a fellow at George Washington University’s Center for Cyber and Homeland Security. “These documents show Long’s attempt to separate his flesh and blood ‘indigenous’ self from his legal entity self.”

Long filed the document with the Jackson County recorder in May 2015, saying he was with the United Washitaw de Dugdahmoundyah Mu’ur Nation, Mid-West Washita Tribes.
 
Some new reporting from KC on the house:

KC police arrested a man at Long’s last known address on a city warrant

About a half dozen television reporters and photographers — from CNN and local stations — and a Kansas City Star photographer were at the 1166 77th Terrace home that is Long’s last known address when a young man on his cell phone came out on his front lawn. He began yelling, “You have five minutes to clear out or I start shooting.”

He did not show a gun. The news reporters cleared out. On Sunday, a man at the 77th Terrace home showed a gun to a Kansas City Star reporter when saying he would not comment.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article90266242.html#storylink=cpy
 
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article90183857.html

He took up anti-government views, and while he said he didn’t want to be affiliated with any organized groups, he was a member of a bizarre offshoot of the sovereign citizen movement and had been associated with the Nation of Islam. He saw police as part of the government and was outraged by the recent spate of police shootings of black men.

Followers of the sovereign citizen movement believe the government is corrupt and has no jurisdiction over them. Federal authorities consider the movement a domestic terrorist threat, and the movement continues to swell, with violent incidents erupting regularly.

Long declared himself a sovereign in records filed with the Jackson County recorder of deeds last year.

“No doubt at all,” said J.J. MacNab, an author who for two decades has been tracking anti-government extremists. “He’s 100 percent sovereign citizen.”

MacNab said Long fell into the Moorish Sovereign category, more specifically the Washitaw Nation of Mu’urs.

“This group believes that they are indigenous to the continent and therefore above all federal, state and local laws,” said MacNab, who also is a fellow at George Washington University’s Center for Cyber and Homeland Security. “These documents show Long’s attempt to separate his flesh and blood ‘indigenous’ self from his legal entity self.”

Long filed the document with the Jackson County recorder in May 2015, saying he was with the United Washitaw de Dugdahmoundyah Mu’ur Nation, Mid-West Washita Tribes.


The sovereigns are a very strange group in and of themselves and the NOI is a hate group. Check it out on the Southern Poverty Law Center. They track hate groups. Quote "...
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deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate." This guy was a full-fledged hate-filled bomb that exploded.
 
I'm in an area where Internet is spotty at best so searching hasn't been possible....did the Dallas shooter write "BR" in blood? Or was that rumor? Just curious that Baton Rouge then happens. You guys have probably already coveted this question - TIA!

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12:05 a.m.

Federal agents in Kansas City and Baton Rouge are trying to determine where the gunman got the firearms he used to kill three officers and wound three more in the Louisiana capital.

Regional spokesman John Ham of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says “all parts of this investigation, at least from the ATF’s standpoint, are very fluid.”

More information at the link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...2bddaa-4c7c-11e6-bf27-405106836f96_story.html
 
I'm in an area where Internet is spotty at best so searching hasn't been possible....did the Dallas shooter write "BR" in blood? Or was that rumor? Just curious that Baton Rouge then happens. You guys have probably already coveted this question - TIA!

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From the Police chief

Dallas shooting suspect left message written in blood at parking garage

Micah Johnson, a 25-year-old Army veteran, wrote the letters “RB” and other markings, David Brown told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...ssage-written-in-blood-at-parking-garage.html
 
I didn't know a warrant would be issued for a seat belt violation. Is brandishing a gun just having it in your possession, or does it mean it was pointed at someone? It just seems reaching hard to me, to arrest someone over a seat belt violation. Would it happen if he wasn't the shooter's brother? He may be completely innocent of anything to do with the killings or knowing about the intent beforehand. The media can be vultures.
 
Perhaps the Original poster meant not a long time. That's how I took it anyway.

IMOO.

He served in Iraq? If so, two weeks is probably a lifetime, I forget how many vets commit suicide and it isn't because they miss serving.
 
I didn't know a warrant would be issued for a seat belt violation. Is brandishing a gun just having it in your possession, or does it mean it was pointed at someone? It just seems reaching hard to me, to arrest someone over a seat belt violation. Would it happen if he wasn't the shooter's brother? He may be completely innocent of anything to do with the killings or knowing about the intent beforehand. The media can be vultures.

I wondered if it was a ticketed violation that he didn't pay and with the gun at the door they looked up his name and saw the unpaid fine. IDK jmo
 
I'm not picking up mental illness, either (though I am probably far less observant than you are - I know you pick up on people very well, very quickly).

To me, he falls into the group of someone with great potential - he's smart and sees himself as a leader - but doesn't quite live up to that potential. His "greatness" hasn't happened, and not enough people (especially women) are that impressed. He's not getting stroked enough, and he's getting to the age where he has to BE SOMETHING other than a blowhard with potential. He did well in the Marines, but quit after five years. He did well in college, but quit.

He joins groups but then says he wasn't part of the group. I think he disavowed associations because those groups didn't recognize his "greatness." He dumped them before they dumped him.

So, instead of persevering....the egomaniac burns out in a big, big way as an excuse for not achieving greatness. It's essentially suicide, whether he dies or not. A lifetime in prison for a heinous crime is, essentially, suicide of his "life that had potential."

Just my armchair opinion, worth what you paid for it.

Makes sense. The thing I don't get is that he is definitely an ego maniac. Did he think he would live and no ome would associate the crime with a guy from MO? Was he going to send out a communique of his great deed?

I can't believe that he did not want some kind of credit. He thinks he is so enlightened.
 
I'm in an area where Internet is spotty at best so searching hasn't been possible....did the Dallas shooter write "BR" in blood? Or was that rumor? Just curious that Baton Rouge then happens. You guys have probably already coveted this question - TIA!

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he wrote RB
 
He served in Iraq? If so, two weeks is probably a lifetime, I forget how many vets commit suicide and it isn't because they miss serving.

The records show that Long deployed once to Iraq from June 2008 to January 2009 and did not experience direct ground combat. He was assigned to units in Miramar, Calif., and Okinawa, Japan, during his military career. At least one of the Baton Rouge officers killed, Matthew Gerald, had military experience, a friend said.


bbm, 6 months



Records released by the military show Long served five years in the Marine Corps as a data network specialist, from August 2005 to August 2010. He left active duty as a sergeant, according to the records.

bbm http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm
 

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