Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery by Robert Kolker

[fred&edna]

I think they should. Round em up and get their dna. It's a longshot but worth a try.

Maybe worth it. But, wouldn't this suggest LE has the killer's dna?

 

[PickleChris]

Maybe worth it. But, wouldn't this suggest LE has the killer's dna?

Very interesting point.

 

[CriminalMinds]

Maybe worth it. But, wouldn't this suggest LE has the killer's dna?

I often thought they had a sample.....maybe hair left on/in the burlap

 

[fred&edna]

I often thought they had a sample.....maybe hair left on/in the burlap

I hope so!

If they do then it means they could have two pieces of evidence... his dna, and a recording of his voice (assuming it wasn't disguised in some way).

 

[ktgirl]

I just finished reading Kolker's book.

I had always assumed Hackett did come into contact with Shannon that night, even if brieflly, since her mother is suing him.

Kolker presents it as completely unknown whether or not the doctor even saw Shannon that night (it all seems to be hear day).

Am I understanding this correctly? How do you sue someone saying they could have prevented a person's death when you can't even prove he saw the person who died that night?

 

[Aleph]

I just finished reading Kolker's book.

I had always assumed Hackett did come into contact with Shannon that night, even if brieflly, since her mother is suing him.

Kolker presents it as completely unknown whether or not the doctor even saw Shannon that night (it all seems to be hear day).

Am I understanding this correctly? How do you sue someone saying they could have prevented a person's death when you can't even prove he saw the person who died that night?

The Kolker book is sympathetic to Hackett, but the recent 48 Hours episode included new footage in which Hackett came across very poorly. At best, bumbling. At worst, extremely suspicious.

 

[Just K]

The Kolker book is sympathetic to Hackett, but the recent 48 Hours episode included new footage in which Hackett came across very poorly. At best, bumbling. At worst, extremely suspicious.

I would love to see the raw/uncut footage as opposed to the edited and polished version of 48 hours. You never know what the context is or was. You don't even know when the video was taken...was it old or is it from a recent interaction...we are not given those details.

 

[monicalynne]

I have been reading the book "Lost Girls"... it is very interesting. I have been following this story from the discovery of the first four women. This book fills in a lot of blanks and shows a human side to the victims and their families. I hope it shows the public that no one is disposable and that these victims deserve respect! It is not for us to judge because until you can say "I walked in those shoes" you don't know what a person is going through in their life. Now there are mothers without their daughters, children without their mothers, and families without their loved ones because some monster decided they were not worth anything! All these women deserve justice and their families deserve the respect of getting it!! God Bless the souls of the lost RIP Angels... and may God have mercy on the souls of the wicked!

 

[deedee21]

I believe National Geographic will air a show called Americas Secret. Its about the sex trade in the US that apparently most Americans are still unaware is happening in the good old US of A. Young girls are kidnapped and or forced into prostitution everyday. Those that are responsible should be lined up and shot dead. Instead they only serve a few years IF caught. The sentence for this crime is indicitive of the prevailing attitude toward the crime commited and its victims. I guess that wont change unless the crime itself happens to the family members of lawmakers and member of the judicial system. Pathetic.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

I believe National Geographic will air a show called Americas Secret. Its about the sex trade in the US that apparently most Americans are still unaware is happening in the good old US of A. Young girls are kidnapped and or forced into prostitution everyday. Those that are responsible should be lined up and shot dead. Instead they only serve a few years IF caught. The sentence for this crime is indicitive of the prevailing attitude toward the crime commited and its victims. I guess that wont change unless the crime itself happens to the family members of lawmakers and member of the judicial system. Pathetic.

here it is
your show
from national geographic

(i think)
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/inside-secret-america/episodes/american-sex-slave/

 

[ktgirl]

In case anyone's interested- I have another copy of "Lost Girls" that I'm looking to sell....I've posted about it in a thread on the WS Bay Forum.

 

[ktgirl]

IMO, Kim didn't come off too well in the book (neither did Lorraine or Mari, come to think of it). I felt though, that his portrayal of these women was authentic- they were portrayed as people, not angelic mothers to the victims, if that makes sense.

I'd always accepted that Kim put up escort ads to try to catch her sister's killer (as that's all over MSM), but after reading the book, that's not why I think she's still in the business from time to time.

Thoughts?

 

[svpernin]

IMO, Kim didn't come off too well in the book (neither did Lorraine or Mari, come to think of it). I felt though, that his portrayal of these women was authentic- they were portrayed as people, not angelic mothers to the victims, if that makes sense.

I'd always accepted that Kim put up escort ads to try to catch her sister's killer (as that's all over MSM), but after reading the book, that's not why I think she's still in the business from time to time.

Thoughts?

Agreed, KT. Kim is almost the most tragic person in all of this. I hope she gets the helps she needs to get out of that life so she can try to have a relationship with her (many) children.

 

[Just K]

IMO, Kim didn't come off too well in the book (neither did Lorraine or Mari, come to think of it). I felt though, that his portrayal of these women was authentic- they were portrayed as people, not angelic mothers to the victims, if that makes sense.

I'd always accepted that Kim put up escort ads to try to catch her sister's killer (as that's all over MSM), but after reading the book, that's not why I think she's still in the business from time to time.

Thoughts?

She never stopped...

 

[giagreen]

IMO, Kim didn't come off too well in the book (neither did Lorraine or Mari, come to think of it). I felt though, that his portrayal of these women was authentic- they were portrayed as people, not angelic mothers to the victims, if that makes sense.

I'd always accepted that Kim put up escort ads to try to catch her sister's killer (as that's all over MSM), but after reading the book, that's not why I think she's still in the business from time to time.

Thoughts?

I never believed that Kim posted her ad's to catch the SK. Maybe a part of her was hopeing she would bump into him. But this is a girl who never even reported her sister missing. That says a lot to me.

 

[Aleph]

I would love to see the raw/uncut footage as opposed to the edited and polished version of 48 hours. You never know what the context is or was. You don't even know when the video was taken...was it old or is it from a recent interaction...we are not given those details.

Ah, so true.

 

[Just K]

I never believed that Kim posted her ad's to catch the SK. Maybe a part of her was hopeing she would bump into him. But this is a girl who never even reported her sister missing. That says a lot to me.

And, she was doing parties with her "little boom box" and told ALC how easy it was and how much money she could make. Me thinks KO is probably a recruiter of sorts. As she ages, her options become limited.

 

[MoonUnderfoot]

..Anyone discussing the book....?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Haven't read the book...didn't even know about the book. But what this one or that one did or didn't do is irrelevant to me. If it doesn't pertain to finding justice for these 4 (?) women, it's just useless, trashy gossip, imho.

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[CriminalMinds]

And that's all I have to say about that.

ha-GUMP