MA MA - Neo Babson Maximus, aka Charles Allen, 22, Dartmouth, 12 Oct 2007

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  1. Savemecastiel

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    A couple days after his phone went dead someone turned it back on. I'd assume someone would have had to charge it up. I did read he took his charger with him.
     
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    Where did you get that information?
     
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    Sister told me and after she did I came across an interview by his sister where she talks about this.
     
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    Can back up that his phone died/switched off after he called his sister on the night but was then charged/switched on a few days later another thing that is strange is that his friends and family say they kept trying to reach him for months - the phone would ring and then go to voicemail. Now I could be wrong but if it did ring before going voicemail then that would mean it was still charged and 'active' (as opposed to going straight to voicemail which would indicate it being switched off or dead) so does that mean he or someone else had been charging it back on for months? To my knowledge phones don't last a week without being charged irregardless if it is being used or not.

    The only things they never found were his keys, phone and his charger. The keys and phone I can understand but would someone really carry their charger with them unless they know they need to carry it? You'd think that he would keep it in his car or in his backpack but it's never been discovered. Another thing there is no mention of them not finding his wallet/credit cards just that they haven't been used. So were they located or did the police just forget to mention that his wallet also hasn't been located?

    Another odd thing but can only be considered speculation is that his sister said she overheard one of Charlie's friends say that he must have returned to his apartment over the weekend because he had logged back into facebook (and then deleted it again?) this has never been confirmed and his sister is the only one that has mentioned this (as far as I know) I just thought I'd mention it just in case it adds to anyones theories. I'd also like to know if that was even possible to delete and then reactivate your facebook account back then? Did any of his neighbours know the last time he was at his apartment?

    On the sleeping in the car thing, I don't think this is as strange as people make it out to be sure I can definitely see him being paranoid and hiding out in his car but also he is a college student that probably works very hard I can see him possibly going for a nap in the back of his car during a break. Another angle is that some say he was addicted to tennis perhaps he was staying late at the campus practising or wanted an early start and instead of going back to his apartment decided to crash in his car. Again I feel this can go both ways and it's a shame we didn't really get further information from friends about this other than "he just did that sometimes."

    Now the actual night itself when he was supposed to go to the party. At 6pm he and his friend split up after playing tennis fast forward to 8pm when his sister calls him she says they talked casually and he sounded normal until she mentioned that his facebook was gone that was when he went full panic mode and started saying people were after him. Now I don't know a lot about bipolar and mania but is that something that can happen? Could the person be talking normally and when you mention something they snap? I always thought this was strange but again I'm not an expert so perhaps that is common.

    Another thing about the night was that his friend returned to campus to pick Charlie up for the party (around the same time as his sister called) of course Charlie didn't show up and when his friend called his phone it went straight to voicemail. Now back to his car as it was located in the campus carpark a few days later I wonder if the friend saw Charlie's car in the carpark that night? This has never been mentioned or asked and I'd believe that his friend just wasn't observant on the night and it could've been dark/in a different part of the carpark but thought I'd mention it anyway.

    When Charlie broke into the house (Pretty convinced it was him considering the lady correctly identified him and his clothing) he was asking for his friend. They make a big deal about how his friend lived 30 minutes away but what I would like to know is where was this party being held? I find it more plausible that Charlie was searching for the party house and not his friend's house. This doesn't really add much to the case one way or another but just a thought.

    This post has been long enough I may post again later as I've still got so much more to discuss but for the time being I just wanted to say since stumbling onto this case it has definitely sent me down the rabbit hole. I'm sure everyone has a certain case they want to see solved more than any other and this is certainly it for me. I just wish there was more to go on and the investigators would reveal what else they have (unless what is out there is all they've got) It's been years since an update and it has gone frozen cold. Anyway I hope Charlie's friends and family will have closure some day and hopefully that some day is soon.
     
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    Charlie stopped taking his medication after becoming interested in Scientology he believed that his medication wasn't helping and just making him a robot whilst he seemed normal and happy off the medication.

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    Something not mentioned in this thread is that Charlie started to take up 'weird' sleeping patterns for example he would play tennis then have a hour nap then do something else then have another hour nap - so every 3-4 hours he'd have a nap from 30 minutes to 2 hours long. This sounds like the Polyphasic sleep pattern it is said that Leonardo Da Vinci did something similar. I can definitely see Charlie reading about this somewhere and then doing this.

    When you add going cold turkey off medication + changing sleep pattern (perhaps not getting enough sleep as a result) it is going to get bad eventually. I think it is clear that he had a mental break. From the recent podcast his sister even says it was clear that he was manic. The big question now is where is Charlie?

    I wonder how far he went into the Scientology rabbit hole? Did he communicate with any members or was he just watching interviews?

    He changed his name to Neo Babson Maximus but once word got out about the name change he was embarrassed and regretted the change - he still wanted people to call him Charlie.

    He mentioned that important people were after him. It seems as though he was into conspiracy theories interestingly in his High School Year 12 Year Book in the "Remember When" section it says:

    "Remember When - Charlie Allen "snapped" in AP Economics and taught the class his insight on the world?"

    I wonder what this was about? Was he off his medication here too?
     
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    One of the most interesting things I have found while looking into the disappearance of Charlie is an Amazon account called "Neo Maximus"

    Sure, anyone can create an Amazon account but this is what makes me wonder could this actually be him?

    1. The accounts location is listed as Austin, Texas - One of his last search terms was University of Texas which has a campus in Austin. He also said he wanted to go to Texas or Florida.

    2. The account's creation was sometime in 2009 - This is well before the case got any type of grand coverage + I'm not sure the Texas link was even publicised then? The account has left two reviews on products (1 in 2009 and 1 in 2015)

    3. The nickname / alias of this account is "The Great One" - I may be grasping at straws here BUT in the Year 12 Yearbook Charlie calls himself "The HL Legend" (HL obviously stands for Half Life) and on his Steam account his bio is "Half Life God" these three names are all pretty much the same thing.

    What do ya'll think? By the way I had this information collected a few years ago and it seems the account has been removed/URL has changed. Can't seem to locate it anymore but it was active at least in 2015. Could this actually be Charlie? or was it just a troll?

    I've got a load more information in a word document somewhere including notes from interactions I had with the investigators in this case. If I can find it I'll definitely share more soon!
     
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    It would sure be wonderful to learn Charlie is alive and well-whatever the circumstances-and maybe we should believe that until it's proven otherwise. His sister and parents and others need him to make contact, though, and they seemed like a close family.
     
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    I googled that name and this Instagram came up. I wonder it was just this guy?

    Login • Instagram
     
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    How does someone report this to family or police to truly investigate/ verify if is him? I'd say his sister would know if it's been looked into. Anyone able to give input on going about this? What if we are in awareness here-and it's him? I feel uncertain how to proceed.
     
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    I don’t think it’s him. It shows the guys face and he looks sort of similar to Charles but Hispanic, and there are posts in Spanish and of Arizona and surrounding areas.

    I forgot how Charles came up with the Neo name, if that whole Neo Babson Maximus name is all from the same movie or intellectual property as a whole, or a combination of things that Charlie’s put together.

    if the Neo name is a combination of names from different inspired things then I find it very very weird this guy would have that same name.

    I’ll friend him and ask
     
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    wow I checked to see if he replied and his account does not exist now. I wonder if he just blocked me. Does his account show up for anyone else?

    this is all I said to him in both English and Spanish:

    “Hello Neo. There is a missing person with the name Neo Babson Maximus and his family misses him and is worried about him.”
     
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    I just sent that link over to the Facebook page dedicated to help find him.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    No reply yet. I googled his name and a sound cloud account popped up too

    Neo Babson Maximus
     
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    It sure is possible that it was just that guy I guess we'll never know for sure considering the account is gone so it would be hard for investigators to look into it. I guess looking in Austin for a "Neo Maximus" could be a good idea. From what I know the case didn't get looked into at all outside of the New England area.

    "Neo" = From The Matrix and Charlie's online gamertag / "Maximus" = From The Gladiator (Two of Charlie's favourite movies) It probably wouldn't be that odd for someone else to come up with the name "Neo Maximus" (Taking the names of the protagonists from two popular movies)

    "Babson" however is his mother's maiden name and as far as I know isn't in any popular movies so for that guy to call himself "Neo Babson Maximus" is more than a coincidence most likely he read about Charlie's case and liked the name.

    By the way I'm by no means saying that the Amazon account was Charlie just putting it out there as those are certainly some weird coincidences in my opinion.
     
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    when I searched Neo Babson Maximus on Facebook that Spanish speaking guy popped up, and a few other people as well. It’s weird someone would steal that name and use it on multiple accounts… but I guess it’s a form of flattery since it is a very cool name.

    I hope my post that the instragram is deleted on my end isn’t coming across that the account is DELETED. I feel it is not deleted, but just blocked to me. Can anyone confirm?
     
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    I was able to see it when I clicked on the link. And that was as of right now. So it appears to not be deleted. Wonder why they blocked you tho.
     
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    I was thinking he was sick of people asking if he was Neo. I was very polite though, and I didn’t accuse him of stealing the name or anything.

    Anyway, if he isn’t Neo and isn’t associated with Neo truly, I say it’s an unfortunate Red Herring.

    Someone posted about the Spanish speaking guy’s Facebook page on the missing Neo page under one of the missing Neo posts some time ago, so if he was him I think we’d know it by now.

    Hopefully if I keep posting on here it will bring this case to more attention. Neo seems/seemed like a friendly smart solid dude, and no matter what happened to him there needs to be closure for his family…. There needs to be closure for every missing person’s family!!
     
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