MA - Remains of 3 infants found, Erika Murray charged, Blackstone, Sept 2014

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  1. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    http://www.providencejournal.com/br...ound-in-deplorable-blackstone-mass.-house.ece

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...v1kYWnmcjbQyYlvMwJN/story.html?rss_id=Top-GNP

     
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  3. ashleyd8402

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  4. Yoda

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    so strange. She has lots of photos of the two older kids. Lots of fun activities. A few pictures in the house, and nothing looks bad. Very strange
     
  5. teedie2

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    Surreal.

    After looking at her facebook page, it's hard to wrap my mind around the facts we are presented with. Not one single mention of the two other living children by relatives posting on her fb? Her mother. The grandmother of all four children? Possibly the baby sitter when this mom was out with the two visible children doing family-type things? The two visibles look so normal in the pictures. Was there a man of the house?

    All the cooking-talk. Hope she didn't pass out samples of her cooking to her friends and relatives!

    This really is appalling. No kidding, if I came across her fb just idly cruising fb, I'd never think a thing amiss.

    Hope we learn more about the three little babies, and mainly that there are only three ...

    Wonder how long those conditions existed. And what caused this.
     
  6. keeponsearching

    keeponsearching The mighty Oak was once a little nut that stood it

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    teedie2 I agree. FB seems so normal.

    I went through some pics and tried to see inside the home. I didn't really see any messes. I am a stresser of pics, if I take a pic in my house I have to make sure the background is not a mess, but when it is sparkling clean I am more like child of mine come stand in front of the clean kitchen so I can take a pic of it oh I mean you :)

    Back to the babies, strange. I wonder whose they were. How long they've been there.
     
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    September 12, 2014

    Investigators working in the house have been wearing hazmat suits, and are decontaminated when they leave, the prosecutor said.

    “The house is filled with vermin,” Early said.

    “We have flies. We have bugs. We have used diapers, in some areas, as much as a foot-and-a-half to two-feet high. The house is in a deplorable condition.”

    Early said four other children, ages 13, 10, 3 and 6 months old were removed from the house on August 28 after a neighbour who discovered their living conditions notified police.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ne-massachusetts/story-fnihsmjt-1227056594309
     
  9. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ New Member

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    What a bizarre story...


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    I know it has the right name and location but are we sure that's the right one? Even the older kids who have a FB page seem normal and the house looks clean in all of the pictures??
     
  11. Oblio

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    I think so. The commenter mentioned someone with the last name of Rivera owning the house, and she has lots of family with the same name.
     
  13. Tammy N

    Tammy N Life is Quicker Than a Blink of an Eye

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    Any and all photos inside the house of this FB page don't show any sort of mess at all. The Rivera comment makes me think it is the correct FB though, as that is the last name of this FB page for this EM person's 13 year old daughter - so that correlates. Also, the one article indicated that the 4 children were removed on August 28th? That is the date the daughter last posted on her FB, and she's been fairly active prior. This EM last posted August 29. If this is the correct EM, I just don't understand how no one could know what was going on inside that house. Even, say, the living room and dining area (which seem to be the only rooms where photos were taken in a house on the fb page) other rooms and the basement or upstairs may have been where the bulk of the madness was/is. But seriously - the amount of used diapers and feces, etc indicated in the articles, one would think the stench would be incredible! So crazy!
     
  14. Oblio

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    I've looked through the photos. I can say without a doubt the house was a mess, but I think they've picked up on the bad points. I keep a very messy house. Very. If I spent one hour, I could have the main living area picked up and tidy, but right now, I'm in it and surrounded by food packaging, etc. If you look at her pictures, the pictures of food are way close up. I do this. It's so you can't see the mess surrounding in the kitchen. And the pictures of the kids are often on the front porch, that's because it's too messy in the house to snap a picture on the fly. I don't do the front step, I have them stand in front of the front door. The floor is always cleared there so the door can move.

    I noticed in her pictures she has had a litter of kittens at some point. Also, I notice some pictures of the house from four years ago, cleaned up and cleared out. They were probably making an effort to change then. She mentioned that they were working on the house. I can imagine they have a half finished room that they slacked off on and this is probably where the trash was. And also why it was condemned. I'm guessing they weren't walking on paths, but like my house, very cluttered. Surfaces filled up. Soda cans left where they are finished, etc. It's my bedroom that gathers the crap, and I'm guessing they have a room that gathers the crap. We have trash service, but at one point when we didn't in our old place, we'd get quite the nasty stack of trash in the garage. If they have two in diapers, that's two to four cases of diapers a month, and if they don't have trash service, then yes, that would be a two foot tall pile in that room that gathers the trash until they make a dump run.

    If I had it to guess, I'd say their house isn't as gross as they are saying. Cluttered and messy, but the trash itself is concentrated in a few areas, not counting the cans and tv trays that stay on the end tables until they are gathered so the utensils can be washed and used again. The hazmat suits will come out because of the diapers alone. I've seen them plenty of times on hoarders, etc. Anytime bodily fluids are involved or pets have a favorite corner, they break them out.
     
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    Could everything on the FB page be a fake/hoax?
     
  16. Oblio

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    More like a very limited view.
     
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    I think the FB page is correct. Children's ages match. They have same last name as the BF. She mention's RR in many posts. The home owner is under a listed alias as her friend but doesn't show anything. This is baffling. I wonder why no charges against the BF if he lived there too? It appears they moved into the house in 2010. I noticed in the most recent pics of the kids, she takes them on the front porch. Biggest mystery to me is who do the other children belong to? was she having children and hiding it?
     
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    Sounds like it really is a case of severe hoarding. I'm wondering about how many people knew about the younger children... I wonder if she kept them hidden in a single room not to be seen by anybody, including her older children? That would explain the keeping the diapers. Sort of hard to throw those away unnoticed.
     
  20. Inthedetails

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    Just speculation here, but since her youngest child is only six months old, the remains must have been there for well over a year. Seeing the gap between the older two and the younger two children, I'm guessing the deceased babies were born during that time. If that is the case, the remains have been there for over four years. Just a guess, not based on any facts yet reported.
     
  21. Linda7NJ

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    I am totally confused ....seems there is zero talk of any other children.

    She did seem annoyed at all the talk of the Royals having Healthy baby....

    Baffling. I'm totally baffled.


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