Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #22

[ilovepierre]

Where exactly did the suspected cell phone tower pings occur again? TIA.

Early reports said phones pinged off a tower in Kota Bharu. Not sure if that's the same tower that's being reported now, though.

 

[ElleElle]

Is there any results on the oil found?

If it is fuel, then it means MH370 did not run out of fuel? :waitasec:

 

[ElleElle]

"One of the world's expert wreck hunters believes searchers for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane have pinpointed the crash site and that the recovery of the black boxes is inevitable.
David Mearns, director of Blue Water Recoveries told the ABC's 7.30 program on Tuesday that he was confident that, because of their strength, the four “pings” detected were emitted from the black boxes.

"I think essentially they have found the wreckage site," he said.

“While the government hasn't announced that yet, if somebody asked me 'technically do they have enough information to say that?', my answer is unequivocally, yes.

“They have got four very, very good detections with the right spectrum of noise coming from them and it can't be from anything else.”

Mr Mearns, an American, was awarded a Medal of the Order of Australia for his work after he found the wreckage of HMAS Sydney in 2008, 66 years after it had been lost in the Indian Ocean during World War II."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/sear...reck-hunter-20140416-36qnu.html#ixzz2z0pfvCkV

 

[panthera]

Is there any results on the oil found?

Is it fuel, then it means MH370 did not run out of fuel? :waitasec:

Nothing I have heard so far.

I believe, however, *IF* it did come from the airplane, it could be from other sources within the airplane besides fuel.

MOO

 

[ilovepierre]

Is there any results on the oil found?

If it is fuel, then it means MH370 did not run out of fuel? :waitasec:

Someone posted upthread that something other than fuel can cause oil slicks.

 

[Soulmagent]

Someone posted upthread that something other than fuel can cause oil slicks.

There was that sip that went missing on march 30 as well.

 

[Archangel7]

Other than fuel, engine oil and hydraulic fluid come to mind.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Where exactly did the suspected cell phone tower pings occur again? TIA.

The official told CNN’s Pamela Brown on Monday that a cell-phone tower in Penang, Malaysia — about 250 miles from where the flight’s transponder last sent a signal — detected the co-pilot’s phone searching for service roughly 30 minutes after authorities believe the plane made a sharp turn westward.




http://fox2now.com/2014/04/14/malay...o-pilots-cell-phone-was-on-u-s-official-says/

 

[aa9511]

Agree, and they are not about to divulge all their intelligence "secrets".



On CNN now, Bluefin is searching and will be deployed until 10:00am ET Wednesday.

Re: first part - that would really be somethin', huh?

Guess that would mean they have made up the "team" in Malaysia who are supposedly doing all these calculations with "the data."

I always thought it was Inmarsat people who were doing the calculations, but later kept hearing "team in Malaysia." I have always wondered how come they describe two different teams - one Inmarsat and one "in Malaysia"?

 

[LinasK]

Does Indonesia even have a radar? And if they do, is it from the Vietnam war? Meaning, is it old school tech?

You would think Indonesia would have better emergency prepardness since the 2006 earthquake/tsunami, which is actually not too far away from the potential crash site.

JMO.

I know for a fact that Singapore does, and it's NOT Vietnam war era technology. My father installed one there in the 1980's which was sold by an American company.
My guess is that Indonesia does too.

 

[Soulmagent]

Rescue operation underway as South Korean passenger ship sinks

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/world/asia/south-korea-sinking-ship-students/

 

[squeaky]

posted 4/13

the oil leaks from the engine turbines or hydraulics. it's not fuel.

 

[SouthAussie]

Bluefin's 2nd mission was cut short too. But it is all fixed now and back in the water.

The underwater search for MH370 has hit another setback with Bluefin-21’s second mission cut short due to a technical problem.

The robotic vehicle was forced to resurface this morning and while the issue was being fixed data was collected.

Initial analysis showed no significant detections and it has since been redeployed.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e-has-been-found/story-fnizu68q-1226885865464

 

[SouthAussie]

US authorities were also forced to take the extraordinary step of denying they were involved in a cover-up of the missing airliner’s disappearance.

Persistent rumours on the internet and social media suggest MH370 has been hidden on the US Indian Ocean military base at Diego Garcia.

“This is a baseless conspiracy theory that has already been debunked around the world, and the White House Press Secretary specifically addressed this on March 18,” a press attaché at the US Embassy in Malaysia said in an email to the New Straits Times newspaper.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e-has-been-found/story-fnizu68q-1226885865464

 

[SouthAussie]

Rescue operation underway as South Korean passenger ship sinks

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/world/asia/south-korea-sinking-ship-students/

"The South Korean coast guard said on Wednesday more than 300 people were unaccounted for from a ferry sinking off the south-west coast, a dramatic increase in the number of missing that had been announced earlier."

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...ber-people-missing-rises-dramatically-more-30

 

[redheadedgal]

I just got back after a month away! I have been watching the continuous "Breaking News" on CNN. Reminds me of NGrace's "Bombshell Tonight". I'm sure this has been discussed but to get me up to speed...what is everyone's take on the co-pilot's phone pinging off a Malaysian cell tower?

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:floorlaugh:

 

[Intermezzo]

Early reports said phones pinged off a tower in Kota Bharu. Not sure if that's the same tower that's being reported now, though.

Cell tower in Penang

Co pilots phone pinged from a cell tower in Penang


http://fox4kc.com/2014/04/14/u-s-official-mh370-co-pilots-cell-phone-was-on-at-time-plane-vanished/

The official told CNN’s Pamela Brown on Monday that a cell-phone tower in Penang, Malaysia — about 250 miles from where the flight’s transponder last sent a signal — detected the first officer’s phone searching for service roughly 30 minutes after authorities believe the plane made a sharp turn westward.

 

[Momoffourboys]

KUALA LUMPUR: Hopes that Malaysia’s missing jet might soon be found are yielding to the sobering realisation of the immense challenge of searching an uncharted seafloor at depths that push deep-sea technology to its limits.
“I have compared it to sending a man to the moon. We know how to do it, but we can’t just do it in three weeks,” said Erik van Sebille, an oceanographer at the University of New South Wales.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca...mh370-uncharted-depths-provide-reality-check/

 

[Intermezzo]

KUALA LUMPUR: Hopes that Malaysia’s missing jet might soon be found are yielding to the sobering realisation of the immense challenge of searching an uncharted seafloor at depths that push deep-sea technology to its limits.
“I have compared it to sending a man to the moon. We know how to do it, but we can’t just do it in three weeks,” said Erik van Sebille, an oceanographer at the University of New South Wales.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca...mh370-uncharted-depths-provide-reality-check/

bbm
I remember reading that this seafloor area of the Indian Ocean off the coast of Australia is unchartered, never been mapped.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/16/uk-malaysia-airlines-idUKBREA3F07G20140416 APRIL 16, 2014


The deep sea area now being searched, the Zenith Plateau, has never been mapped in detail because it is not in any country's economic zone.

However the sea floor is likely covered in "foraminiferal ooze", a sludge formed by microscopic marine organisms, which would show up any large metallic object clearly, James Cook University marine geologist Robin Beaman told Reuters.

"A sidescan is very good at detecting the difference in the acoustic return of a hard object versus a soft, muddy sea floor," he said. "This is quite a good environment for looking for wreck debris, albeit deep."

 

[Skittles]

Someone posted upthread that something other than fuel can cause oil slicks.

There was that sip that went missing on march 30 as well.

Are you talking about the fishing boat the sent out the emergency beacon? That was "in the southern Indian Ocean about 3200km southwest of Perth and 648km north of the Antarctic mainland."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/03/31/21/49/search-for-fishing-boat-suspended

The current MH370 search area is 1620km northwest of Perth, making the oil slick and that lost boat roughly 3600km or 2235 miles apart, a little more than the distance from New York City to Salt Lake City, UT.