MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #3

[Shiressleuth]

Shire, respectfully, my post had nothing to do with the paper. I never mentioned the paper once. I was 100% referring to wes sharing things HERE with us. Please take my posts as is, in the context I state them.

Bears WADR I can post and respond in my own way. The eulogy was shared on here. Please take my posts in the spirit with which they are made.

It takes a lot before you can report it to law enforcement, and there's only so much your service provider or carrier can do. While you can block individual email addresses, if you receive barrage of harassing, anonymous emails the only option might be to change your email address.

Blue, I'm not talking about emails but pms on here only. But I agree with what you say about emails.

 

[bears10]

I respect that you don’t believe so.
I truly hope that the person who gunned down that sweet girl wasn’t someone she knew and thought loved her.

I followed this thread and watched him tell untruths, half truths, attack strangers on the internet and eventually lose all control here.
So its hard to view him as a victim after all I’ve seen and read, and it surprises me that you still do. That’s all.

Hope you don’t think I’m attacking you. Im definitely not.

Fwiw, I am NOT completely convinced wes killed ally. But his behavior and attitude is disgusting and I think he has major potential to be dangerous. He has disrespected strangers who dedicate their personal time to his ex girlfriends murder. Most people in his shoes would be thankful. But he’s rude, angry, harassing, and all around unpleasant. Oh and he’s a liar.

 

[bears10]

Bears WADR I can post and respond in my own way. The eulogy was shared on here. Please take my posts in the spirit with which they are made.

Yes shire, you certainly can post whatever you please. But you respond to posts and pick and choose what you want to respond to. The post of mine which you replied to had nothing to do with the euglogy. Again, please let’s not engage. Best to you shire.

 

[kimlynn]

It’s odd to say. Sorry but it is. I am the same age as them and I certainly don’t boast about not being a drug user. That’s like students bragging about doing their homework. Aka what’s expected of them

And they weren’t a couple anymore according to her parents, who are not suspects in her murder.

Then why did Dad ask "are you coming home?" And Ally get snippy?[/QUOTE]
Dad asking if Ally was coming home might not have anything to do with Wes. Ally had many friends and she could have been in the habit of visiting or stopping to eat with one of them.
For that matter she could have been going shopping or to a favorite place. IMO

 

[Shiressleuth]

I respect that you don’t believe so.
I truly hope that the person who gunned down that sweet girl wasn’t someone she knew and thought loved her.

I followed this thread and watched him tell untruths, half truths, attack strangers on the internet and eventually lose all control here.
So its hard to view him as a victim after all I’ve seen and read, and it surprises me that you still do. That’s all.

Hope you don’t think I’m attacking you. Im definitely not.

No I know you're not. I can tell the ones like that.

I just believe in innocent till proven guilty generally and I do have sympathy for our suspect as I don't yet see a smoking gun. I may be wrong and will admit it if I am.

 

[kimlynn]

Because I don't believe he did it. Why is that so hard to believe too?

Believe what you want but the swingers angle is a bit of a reach. IMO

 

[Jennifer17]

Believe what you want but the swingers angle is a bit of a reach. IMO

I find that as offensive as the suggestion that she may have been having an affair with a married man and may have become pregnant.

 

[kimlynn]

I find that as offensive as the suggestion that she may have been having an affair with a married man and may have become pregnant.

And even worse was to try and bring in the guy that tried to save her life.IMO

 

[Shiressleuth]

Yes shire, you certainly can post whatever you please. But you respond to posts and pick and choose what you want to respond to. The post of mine which you replied to had nothing to do with the euglogy. Again, please let’s not engage. Best to you shire.

I would respond to everyone if I could but the system and the posting is slow. I just wondered if you had seen what he wrote in it. Did you?

Late for me now so the thread is yours now peeps for at least 6 hours.

 

[Lilibet]

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya Lyrics - Peter, Paul & Mary

Sorry Tricia. I couldn’t resist.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #3

 

[gitana1]

I am confused why there are questions surrounding Wes being a liar. Other than the fact that LE has directly come out and stated so, there have been MULTIPLE inconsistencies and lies scattered through these threads. Anything in bold is my doing.

1) The FBI

Thread 2, post 186, combatmedic says:



Thread 2, post #200, combatmedic says:



Thread 2, post #797, combatmedic says:



HOWEVER, LE said the FBI is not involved, and that Wes has NO inside info. Direct quote from Shaw - “Sutherland, still a suspect, has no inside information on this investigation and the FBI is not involved.” Ally’s killer still at large


2) Guns

Thread #3, post 824, combatmedic says:



However, on May 5, which was well after the Crimewatch daily eposide aired, Wes denied possessing any weapon other than his crossbow, and said his dad always keeps his guns locked up unless they were using them.

Thread 1, post #570




3) Last text with Ally/their weekend plans

On the screenshot Wes posted of his last convo with Ally, which was at 4:45 AM on the day she murdered, Ally asked Wes what his work week looked like, and he told her Sun and Mon work, then off for 10 days. Why would she ask that if they already had plans???? Plans that they changed the night before at work (supposedly)*due to the change in his work schedule*.

Thread 2, Post #116


Bottom line- LE has stated Wes has lied. They have stated the FBI is not involved, and Wes has no inside info. I am shocked that people choose to take the word of a murder suspect over that of Law Enforcement.

Thank you for this detail. Exceedingly unusual, bizarre, frightening guy IMO.

So, he lied about being in contact with the FBI who is not involved in this case.

The parents have been declared not to be suspects and the dad passed a polygraph.

He makes bizarre claims trying to pretend he's in the middle of the investigative efforts.

LE states he does not have inside information.

He was insanely aggressive on here with people, made imperious, almost delusional demands to be able to control the board and shut up posters who made him uncomfortable, and threatened people.

He appears to have a serious controlling nature and loses it when he is challenged.

His focus when asked to describe Ally was on their isolated life together, not on who she was.

Her parents indicate she broke up with him and was not reconciling and by all legitimate accounts, they had broken up three months before her death and she was going off to spend time with a new guy.

The boyfriend has been declared suspect by LE.

He has access to guns but lied about it.

LE has been UNABLE to verify his alibi.

LE states he has lied to them numerous times.

He admits he failed one polygraph and another was inconclusive.

He had the means, motive and opportunity.

Let me just explain, innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept that means the legal system - judge, jury, etc. - cannot treat him as a guilty person until the trial is over and the jury have determined him to be guilty.

It does not and never has applied to society at large or public opinion. In fact, people can be and are routinely fired for being charged with crimes, before they are ever convicted and they do not prevail in lawsuits against the employer for that.

So we are free to use common sense to come to our own conclusions. That's called judgment. An innate ability to judge situations and people based on logic, critical thinking skills, and our gut.

Yeah, what points to his innocence? What at all?

 

[gitana1]

I posted it because it is a contradicting viewpoint.

No it's not. It's not a viewpoint. It's a report. That appears to be incorrect.

 

[gitana1]

Because I don't believe he did it. Why is that so hard to believe too?

I think because the facts overwhelmingly tip the balance toward guilt. I mean there's nothing I can see that supports his innocence, frankly.

 

[bears10]

Thank you for this detail. Exceedingly unusual, bizarre, frightening guy IMO.

So, he lied about being in contact with the FBI who is not involved in this case.

The parents have been declared not to be suspects and the dad passed a polygraph.

He makes bizarre claims trying to pretend he's in the middle of the investigative efforts.

LE states he does not have inside information.

He was insanely aggressive on here with people, made imperious, almost delusional demands to be able to control the board and shut up posters who made him uncomfortable, and threatened people.

He appears to have a serious controlling nature and loses it when he is challenged.

His focus when asked to describe Ally was on their isolated life together, not on who she was.

Her parents indicate she broke up with him and was not reconciling and by all legitimate accounts, they had broken up three months before her death and she was going off to spend time with a new guy.

The boyfriend has been declared suspect by LE.

He has access to guns but lied about it.

LE has been UNABLE to verify his alibi.

LE states he has lied to them numerous times.

He admits he failed one polygraph and another was inconclusive.

He had the means, motive and opportunity.

Let me just explain, innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept that means the legal system - judge, jury, etc. - cannot treat him as a guilty person until the trial is over and the jury have determined him to be guilty.

It does not and never has applied to society at large or public opinion. In fact, people can be and are routinely fired for being charged with crimes, before they are ever convicted and they do not prevail in lawsuits against the employer for that.

So we are free to use common sense to come to our own conclusions. That's called judgment. An innate ability to judge situations and people based on logic, critical thinking skills, and our gut.

Yeah, what points to his innocence? What at all?

Thanks gitana, your post is straight and to the point, and takes the emotions out of things. It doesn’t get much clearer than this, especially since you are a verified attorney.

 

[Jax49]

Thanks gitana, your post is straight and to the point, and takes the emotions out of things. It doesn’t get much clearer than this, especially since you are a verified attorney.

Totally agree. Great to have gitana with us.

IMHO, Wes should have hired an attorney who would have told him to shut up and stay off the internet. The man may not be a murderer, but if he is not he's his own worst enemy.

 

[bears10]

Totally agree. Great to have gitana with us.

IMHO, Wes should have hired an attorney who would have told him to shut up and stay off the internet. The man may not be a murderer, but if he is not he's his own worst enemy.

nothing he posted here is flattering. If he is an innocent man, I hope that any of his future love interests google him and come across these threads so they are aware how intense his anger can get.

 

[Jax49]

nothing he posted here is flattering. If he is an innocent man, I hope that any of his future love interests google him and come across these threads so they are aware how intense his anger can get.

Can you imagine? A woman meets him and tells her parents "I just met a great guy. He works at a hospital and he's so calm."

Except searching the internet will show what he's really like. A foul-mouthed bully.

imho

 

[Shiressleuth]

No evidence.

Thank you for this detail. Exceedingly unusual, bizarre, frightening guy IMO.

So, he lied about being in contact with the FBI who is not involved in this case.

The parents have been declared not to be suspects and the dad passed a polygraph.

He makes bizarre claims trying to pretend he's in the middle of the investigative efforts.

LE states he does not have inside information.

He was insanely aggressive on here with people, made imperious, almost delusional demands to be able to control the board and shut up posters who made him uncomfortable, and threatened people.

He appears to have a serious controlling nature and loses it when he is challenged.

His focus when asked to describe Ally was on their isolated life together, not on who she was.

Her parents indicate she broke up with him and was not reconciling and by all legitimate accounts, they had broken up three months before her death and she was going off to spend time with a new guy.

The boyfriend has been declared suspect by LE.

He has access to guns but lied about it.

LE has been UNABLE to verify his alibi.

LE states he has lied to them numerous times.

He admits he failed one polygraph and another was inconclusive.

He had the means, motive and opportunity.

Let me just explain, innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept that means the legal system - judge, jury, etc. - cannot treat him as a guilty person until the trial is over and the jury have determined him to be guilty.

It does not and never has applied to society at large or public opinion. In fact, people can be and are routinely fired for being charged with crimes, before they are ever convicted and they do not prevail in lawsuits against the employer for that.

So we are free to use common sense to come to our own conclusions. That's called judgment. An innate ability to judge situations and people based on logic, critical thinking skills, and our gut.

Yeah, what points to his innocence? What at all?

 

[Shiressleuth]

No it's not. It's not a viewpoint. It's a report. That appears to be incorrect.

Yes it is. It is one MSM reporter's view that states no suspect. That's why I posted it. That was written by a reporter and that was their view at that time. And we are allowed to post MSM to back up our viewpoint.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Believe what you want but the swingers angle is a bit of a reach. IMO

It was an example of a young couples relationship that was all. Just an example of how some relationships are open. I wasn't suggesting their relationship was like that but everyone's is personal to themselves. They were obviously still workmates and friends and she still stayed a couple of nights a week I understand. Even A's parents said it was amicable.