Identified! MI - Detroit, WhtFem UP8272, 18-20, in garbage dump, recent childbirth, Feb'87 - n/a

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  1. coco

    coco Active Member

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    I'm glad the baby is safe and well, and yes the family deserves privacy, but I'm also hoping eventually her identity will be disclosed so she isn't just known as a person so horrifically murdered and dumped like trash
     


  2. doggybag2355

    doggybag2355 Well-Known Member

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    I've said this time and time again, but they have to eventually. They can only permanently hold a name if a person was killed by non-homicidal means.
     
  3. Katrell00

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    I think there is a photo of Harper Doe floating around online, if it's her she was beautiful
     
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    Laughing Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! I appreciate your answer, and also the right to privacy. I expect this has not been an easy time for anyone involved.
     
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  5. Katrell00

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    I hope they at least catch who did this, I can't tell how long I've thought about this case for. I suppose with her being a new mother and still breastfeeding ,really gets to me. I hope one day we will know for certain who she was. Ending up in the garbage like that when she should've been with her baby, heartbreaking.
    Do we at least know if she was ever reported missing?
     
  6. Katrell00

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    Actually I don't think the pic I saw is really her, I think It may have just been a comparison photo in regard to the hair, I'm really not even sure
     
  7. coco

    coco Active Member

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    Im still not convinced that she's not Margie Ranshaw..I know the dates don't match up but I'm wondering if it could be an error..
     
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  8. Nina Michigan

    Nina Michigan Verified President/Founder of Missing in Michigan

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    it's not margie ranshaw - she had VERY distinctive teeth. The dates for Harper Doe are spot on.

    JMO - YMMV
     
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  9. leilarose68

    leilarose68 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm maybe Harper Jane Doe's murderer is deceased and that's why there hasn't been any information released, perhaps at the family's request. If the murderer were still at large then I'd imagine there'd be an active investigation and a suspect name released out of necessity.
     
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    Blurgle Well-Known Member

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    It may be that they are alive but can't be charged - dementia, for instance. You can't prosecute someone who's unable to defend themselves.

    After all, it might not be the husband who's the perpetrator. It's not common, but there have bern numerous instances of mothers-in-law and/or fathers-in-law killing their daughter-in-law once The Golden Grandchild, The Only Reason Sonnybubbles Was Allowed to Loosen the Apron Strings and Marry, is born.
     
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  11. Katrell00

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    You don't think it's her? I googled Margie (hadn't heard of her case) and one of her photos looks a lot like the sketch of this victim I think
     
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  12. coco

    coco Active Member

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    Something not adding up about all this.
    This lady was found murdered 34 years ago in a rubbish dump. Details of her body and how she was killed , where she was found were made very public and the case grew cold. Finally she gets "identified" but that's all that is released..no name, no information on if this is an active homicide investigation..nothing at all.
    I understand if at first there was no details in order to contact family etc..but it's been nearly a year and still nothing..something isn't adding up
     
  13. Laughing

    Laughing Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, the now-adult infant is identified. That person is next-of-kin.

    LE may know more about the event, and may never release that to the likes of us!
     
  14. coco

    coco Active Member

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    Again how do we even know that. I think there's something strange with the entire thing. If she was not a victim of suicide it would make more sense..but she was murdered..
     
  15. taramarie

    taramarie Well-Known Member

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    As much as I would like to know who she is and hear more about her story, we are certainly not entitled to know. LE clearly has their own reasons to have not released her name, and we are not privy to their rationale. Her family now knows where she is, and frankly, that should be enough. She’s certainly not the first homicide victim to have her name withheld (see Bernalillo Jane Doe 1995, Tallulah Jane Doe 1994, Live Oak Doe 1986, Pillar Point Doe 1983, Los Angeles Jane Doe 1968).
     
  16. snowgoose

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    This is just speculation, but they may be taking their time releasing the ID because they're actively following up leads and don't want to tip off the suspect. I assume this is what's going on with the other Does mentioned by @taramarie too.

    We may find out their names when arrests are made, or when the leads run dry and they need to appeal to the public for more information.
     
  17. coco

    coco Active Member

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    Yes true.. I suppose I have to just accept I'll never know, it's hard when you become so invested in a case, I know that might sound silly but it's how I feel. I think I'll give searching for other UID's a bit of a break for awhile.
    Everyone take care x
     
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    I mean the mainstream media hasn't even reported her identification yet so perhaps something still may be forthcoming at some point.
     
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  19. Katrell00

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    I got the feeling from a previous post on here it was more the family not wanting her identity disclosed and if that's the case we will not find out.
    It's a hard one really cause I get that they deserve privacy and time to process it all, but at the same time it was a publicised case, and a lot of people put effort and their heart into trying to ID her for many years.
    We aren't legally entitled to know anything I understand that, but it sucks not knowing. Just my thoughts.
     
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  20. MarziPanda

    MarziPanda Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure in homicide cases, LE has to release the identity of the victim eventually. In cases of other deaths - suicide, natural deaths, accidental deaths, the family can choose for the identity not to be released. Such as Lyle Stevik. But for murder, that's not the case. At least that's what I've read in other places.

    I think they're still working on the case, and it may be a long time yet before her identity is released.
     

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