MI MI - Kimberly King, 12, Warren, 16 Sept 1979

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I would like to know the likelihood of success, if they bring cadaver-dogs out to all of the sites-of-interest mentioned earlier in the thread. If there were remains at any of the sites, might the dogs be able to tell, or have too many years passed?

IMO they should do absolutely everything they can to try to bring answers to these families, even if they have to fundraise from the community to pay for it.
My understanding is that results with cadaver dogs are highly variable. Sometimes they miss graves that are relatively fresh, and sometimes that can find bodies that have been buried for decades. Overall, they don't have a great track record.
"In 2003 A.E. Lasseter and his colleagues at the University of Alabama used four teams to identify 10 fresh and skeletonized remains buried from 1 to 2 feet below ground. They found overall poor results. Only two of the alerts correctly signaled the location of remains. In contrast there were six false alerts and 22 no alerts, revealing significant problems in detection."
http://www.chicora.org/pdfs/Cadaver Dogs in Cemeteries.pdf
 
  • #142
Overall, they don't have a great track record.

Quote RSBM.
Ah, that is really a shame.
Maybe other technology can be used to assist LE at the sites.
I hope they continue the searches.
 
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I thought that the dig in Macomb might find Kimberly, but Ream really could have buried her anywhere.

I don't think she'll be found unless Ream leads LE to her remains, and I don't know what incentive he would have for doing that. He's never getting out.
 
  • #145
I thought that the dig in Macomb might find Kimberly, but Ream really could have buried her anywhere.

I don't think she'll be found unless Ream leads LE to her remains, and I don't know what incentive he would have for doing that. He's never getting out.
You think Ream is responsible? Seems like they lumped all missing girls in Southeast Michigan to the dig. Not sure what I think of what Ream is responsible for.
 
  • #146
You think Ream is responsible? Seems like they lumped all missing girls in Southeast Michigan to the dig. Not sure what I think of what Ream is responsible for.
Ream at least lived in the same area as Kim King. (Eastpointe-ish)

Some of them, like Nadine O'Dell and Cynthia Coon really felt like a reach.
 
  • #147
You think Ream is responsible? Seems like they lumped all missing girls in Southeast Michigan to the dig. Not sure what I think of what Ream is responsible for.
I think that Ream probably killed Kimberly King. The only other suspect I'd consider would be David Norberg. I'm at 90% Ream, 9% Norberg, 1% somebody else.

I don't see any connection between Ream and Cynthia Coon or Kim Larrow; they both disappeared pretty far from his stomping grounds, and Cynthia Coon disappeared too early to be a Ream victim.
 
  • #148
Ream at least lived in the same area as Kim King. (Eastpointe-ish)

Some of them, like Nadine O'Dell and Cynthia Coon really felt like a reach.
I had forgotten about Nadine O'Dell; I see her a likely Coral Watts victim (if she was abducted by a serial offender).

I don't have a good suspect for Cynthia Coon, but Robert Bowman wouldn't be too much of a reach. It seems like Cynthia Coon was abducted by someone who kept her alive long enough for her to make some phone calls, and we know that Robert Bowman kept his one known victim, Eileen Adams, alive for several days.

Back then, LE wasn't very good at connecting related crimes, especially if they occurred in different counties, so it's anyone's guess how many unidentified serial killers were operating at any one time back in that era.
 
  • #149
I had forgotten about Nadine O'Dell; I see her a likely Coral Watts victim (if she was abducted by a serial offender).

I don't have a good suspect for Cynthia Coon, but Robert Bowman wouldn't be too much of a reach. It seems like Cynthia Coon was abducted by someone who kept her alive long enough for her to make some phone calls, and we know that Robert Bowman kept his one known victim, Eileen Adams, alive for several days.

Back then, LE wasn't very good at connecting related crimes, especially if they occurred in different counties, so it's anyone's guess how many unidentified serial killers were operating at any one time back in that era.

Robert Bowman abducted, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered Eileen Adams of Toledo, Ohio back in December 1967. He drove her body north on US 23 and dumped her body, rolled up in a rug in Monroe County, Michigan. At one point a few years later, the then unsolved murder was compared to other Michigan murders of young women and girls taking place in the Ypsilanti area. Bowman was free to kill and moved around the country, settling for times in California and Florida, where he was eventually captured. He is currently resides in an Ohio penitentiary serving a life sentence.

He was active and free during the 1970's.

LINK:

MI - MI - Cynthia Coon, 13, Ann Arbor, 19 Jan 1970
 
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Kimberly King

Kimberly King, age 12, has been missing from Warren Michigan since 16 September 1979.

LINK:

 
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Art Ream, one of the leading suspects in her case, died in prison on 8-15-24
 
  • #153
Updated Oct 8 2024

Details of Disappearance​

Kimberly spent the night of September 15, 1979 at a friend's residence across the street from her grandparents' home in Warren, Michigan. At 11:00 p.m., she called her sister and said she had sneaked out of her friend's home and was calling from an outdoor phone booth not far away. Her sister told her to go back inside. Kimberly never returned to her friend's home, however, and has never been heard from again.

Authorities are uncertain what pay phone Kimberly was calling her sister from. She said it was a short walk from her grandparents' home, but one witness said he saw her using the phone several miles away. Her case was originally classified as a possible runaway.

There are few clues as to Kimberly's whereabouts, but her case is now classified as a non-family abduction with probable foul play involved in her disappearance. Investigators learned that Kimberly may have traveled to Grand Rapids, Michigan after her disappearance, but the leads did not pan out.

Although one of Kimberly's sisters had run away from home several times and Kimberly herself was known to occasionally stay out until late at night, she does not have a history of runaway behavior and authorities no longer believe she left of her own accord.

Authorities theorized that Kimberly may have been a victim of a serial killer of children in Oakland County, Michigan. The killer, nicknamed "The Babysitter" because he bathed and fed the children prior to their deaths, is believed to be responsible for the abductions and homicides of two boys and two girls around King's age in 1976 and 1977.

The children were all held captive for several days before being slain. No one has ever been charged in connection with any of the murders. If Kimberly was a victim of the killer, her case is atypical; in the other cases, the victim's bodies were left out in plain view by roadways and were found fairly quickly, but Kimberly's remains have never been located.

David Norberg was considered a suspect in the case for many years. He was employed in Warren at the time of Kimberly's 1979 disappearance, and lived just two streets away from her home. He was killed in an automobile accident near Recluse, Wyoming in 1981. After his death, jewelry allegedly belonging to several of the Oakland County child victims was found among his belongings. He was never charged in connection with any of Kimberly's disappearance or any of the murders, however.

Norberg's body was exhumed in September 1999 and his DNA was compared to a single strand of unidentified hair discovered on the final murder victim, Timothy King (no relation to Kimberly). In November 2002, Authorities announced that Norberg's DNA did not match the hair found on Timothy, but that they were not ruling him out entirely as a suspect.

He fits the serial killer's profile very well and there is circumstantial evidence linking him to the murders. Investigators still think he might have been involved in Kimberly's apparent abduction if not the murders.

The Oakland County serial killer has never been identified, but one male victim's family sued a suspect, Ted Lamborgine, for his wrongful death in 2007. It is not clear whether Kimberly was a victim of the same person who killed the others.

In 2018, authorities announced Arthur Ream was a possible suspect in Kimberly's case and in the disappearances of Cynthia Coon, Kim Larrow, Nadine O'Dell and Kellie Brownlee. A photo of Ream is posted with this case summary.

He was convicted of sexual assault in the 1970s and, in 1986, murdered Cindy Zarzycki, a thirteen-year-old girl who was dating his son. He was convicted of her murder and afterwards, in 2008, he lead authorities to her body, which was buried in a shallow grave 30 miles from Detroit, Michigan.

While in prison, Ream reportedly told cellmates he was serial killer with four to six victims. In May 2018, police began digging at the same property where Cindy had been buried, expecting to find the bodies of other missing girls there. No human remains were located, however, and the digging stopped after a week. Ream died of cancer in prison in August 2024.

Kimberly's grandmother died in 1995. Prior to her death, she purchased a cemetery plot for her granddaughter. Kimberly's two sisters still hope she may be located. Her case remains unsolved.
 
  • #154
Kimberly already has a thread in WS Cold Cases:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16498

Her case is also discussed in the thread about the "Babysitter" killer.
i grew up in warren. my mom sometimes talks about a girl who went missing in warren during the 80s and was later found in a neighbor's basement (i think the freezer; i will have to ask my mom for more details of the case).

i can't help but wonder if these two cases are connected somehow. you'd think the police would have checked it out, but you never know. i will have to find out more. i don't even know what street little kimberly was abducted from.

my hunch tells me kimberly wasn't a victim of the oakland county child killer. i feel like if she was, we would have a body by now. that monster always left the bodies in plain sight.
Me too, I grew up at 8 and Van Dyke. I believe the payphone in question was located at 9 and Hoover. Have you heard the same thing? I believe it was called "Gary Mart" back then. I'm new here and just started looking into the Kimberly King case. I haven't done a deep dive on the Oakland County Child Killer yet, but I have a hunch it wasn't related as well.
 
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Me too, I grew up at 8 and Van Dyke. I believe the payphone in question was located at 9 and Hoover. Have you heard the same thing? I believe it was called "Gary Mart" back then. I'm new here and just started looking into the Kimberly King case. I haven't done a deep dive on the Oakland County Child Killer yet, but I have a hunch it wasn't related as well.
dairy mart :)

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