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Is paranoia a new thing for you or something you've dealt with for a long time?
Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 17
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Is paranoia a new thing for you or something you've dealt with for a long time?
Scout
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C'mon, Jake. I've said plenty of times that I have no background in psychology. I'm just an average Jane who recognizes paranoia when she sees it. Maybe it's a "takes one to know one" type thing?
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if i'm not mistaken jake, they would/could arrest someone that is a material witness to a crime but doesn't want to testify at court. doing this would assure the person would be available to be put on the stand.
Don't really know if anyone is. I reckon I don't know enough to be a witness, but possibly someone in Jason's family might be.
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haven't heard there was a material witness. you're the one that brought it up and i was just answering your question as to why they would arrest one.
Okay, that's what I think. It won't be I, then, because I don't know enough.
I've got a feeling something is about to break in this case. Just a feeling. I believe the Raleigh N&O is publishing a six-month recap of the case soon. May 3 is the six-month mark.
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it would be good for them to finally find the person that did this, no matter who it turns out to be and i do hope its soon. for everyone's sake.
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not all trials have a material witness. so its probably irrelevant in this case.
the only way i could see one possible would be if the person who did it confessed to another person or if another person helped the murderer get rid of evidence. perhaps then, not sure. that could be considered conspiracy i guess not necessarily material witness in the case of helping them get rid of evidence.
Hi Jake,
When you say something is about to break, do you mean a story or 6 month recap ? That would hardly be intuitive. Or do you mean something more ? Has the husband's or lawyer's PI come up with some breaking news ? Just curious, as the LE and DA don't seem to give a whit about giving the general public anything. Surely you agree ? Not a crumb of news for us to nibble on.
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You don't know enough? Who quantifies enough, Jake?
I would think if you know anything at all, you could be a material witness. I'm just guessing though that you're concerned about Mrs. Young and, perhaps, Mr. McIntyre, Heather and her husband.
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Ok, Jake you know something. Spit it out! 
You just pulled the material witness thing out of thin air first of all, then said someone in Jason's family maybe.
First thing that came to my mind was his mother with the info about the time arranged for him to visit Brevard. Last minute or whatever it turns out to be. I have several thoughts on the who and what since there are several possibilities. Then you brought up N&O and them doing a story so you obviously know something. I can't see anyone in his family voluntarily testifying about anything that would be incriminating to him but if it applied to someone else LE wouldn't need to arrest them would they?
You just pulled the material witness thing out of thin air first of all, then said someone in Jason's family maybe.
First thing that came to my mind was his mother with the info about the time arranged for him to visit Brevard. Last minute or whatever it turns out to be. I have several thoughts on the who and what since there are several possibilities. Then you brought up N&O and them doing a story so you obviously know something. I can't see anyone in his family voluntarily testifying about anything that would be incriminating to him but if it applied to someone else LE wouldn't need to arrest them would they?
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A personal question for Jake:
Do you ever call your son-in-law by the moniker, "meathead"?
Do you ever call your son-in-law by the moniker, "meathead"?
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RC, please forgive me for taking the focus off of Jake for a moment
Nanandjim,
This warrant was returned today. According to Sheriff Harrison, they do not believe it had anything to do with Michelle's murder. This mallet was found on the edge of the lawn by a neighbor.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1373778/
Additional article - 12 inch metal mallet with black handle found in a location to where it could have fallen off of a passing truck:
http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/569673.html
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Interesting topic Jake!
Would you interpret 'material' as meaning 'having relevance' to a crime. Would there be any qualification on that witness. For instance; he saw something relevant to the crime, overheard two people talking about what happened, was told something about how the crime was committed or a confession, like something simply overcame him and he can not even remember doing it?
I would also wonder if there would have to be some reason the person might take the 5th, and if they are held until it is possible for them to give their testimony, then they will have to respond and can not escape testifying.
if they were family, a lover who was involved with this person at the time of the murder {the affair had not been broken off formally yet}, someone who was approached to assist after the crime, someone whose personal life might be jeopardized or financially dimmed by the association with a possible murderer; these could all be people who would then feel admitting something under oath that might be detrimental to their lives. It could also mean that these people would never want to say anything that could be used against this person, as they do not want to see him incarcerated for the rest of his life or be put to death, or that they might leave the area before served with a subpoena and then would be untouchable.
I really thought in America anyone could take the 5th at any time.
Scandi
Would you interpret 'material' as meaning 'having relevance' to a crime. Would there be any qualification on that witness. For instance; he saw something relevant to the crime, overheard two people talking about what happened, was told something about how the crime was committed or a confession, like something simply overcame him and he can not even remember doing it?
I would also wonder if there would have to be some reason the person might take the 5th, and if they are held until it is possible for them to give their testimony, then they will have to respond and can not escape testifying.
if they were family, a lover who was involved with this person at the time of the murder {the affair had not been broken off formally yet}, someone who was approached to assist after the crime, someone whose personal life might be jeopardized or financially dimmed by the association with a possible murderer; these could all be people who would then feel admitting something under oath that might be detrimental to their lives. It could also mean that these people would never want to say anything that could be used against this person, as they do not want to see him incarcerated for the rest of his life or be put to death, or that they might leave the area before served with a subpoena and then would be untouchable.
I really thought in America anyone could take the 5th at any time.
Scandi
Thanks for the update, RC!
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