GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died in custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #19 - Chauvin Jury Deliberations #2

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  1. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    This article doesn't tell you the totality of his comments... he said, "I will give you that, that Congresswoman Waters may have given you something on appeal, that may result in this whole trial being overturned"

    I love that Law and Crime uploads all the videos.... 1:06:30

     
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    turaj Well-Known Member

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    a number of us have commented on the very casual warnings that were only started last week after the WRight murder...no have not heard social media and I don't think the judge should just assume they understand that. I believe as spoken by Mr. Nelson that will be another one of his many grounds for appeal. Most judges hammer that admonition at each break. lunch and at night. In fact I recall some asking first thing in the morning if any jurors had been approached by media or discussed the case . just sort of routine. There was none of that here.
     
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    turaj Well-Known Member

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    and we need 100% on board...not a done deal here at all.
     
  4. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they were... and I just listened to some of the comments Nelson made yesterday... he said that even he has tried to avoid all media/online activity but some has just been unavoidable.. like the ALERTS to his phone.
     
  5. turaj

    turaj Well-Known Member

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    there were a number of reasons given...1. too soon after the crime...public would riot...2. he wanted Federal prison and immunity from civil rights litigation down the line. It will indeed be crazy if he ends up getting 3rd degree after all of this.
     
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    It would be a bigger nightmare to me if he was just convicted of manslaughter after he was willing to to plead to 3rd degree murder.
     
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    Thank you for the full quote.

    Fortunately he said his words after the jury left and they've been sequestered ever since. They don't know what he said.

    jmo

    edited to add: or was the jury still there?
     
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    I still don't know if it's even true ;) Hopefully we will learn more later. Only one place reported it and it came from an anonymous source. I have trust issues :confused:
     
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  9. Shaddow

    Shaddow Be the change that you wish to see in the world

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    How do you think the Civil Rights Act of 64 became law? If people, didn't march and protest it would have never happened. If people didn't speak out, it would not have happened. If people just "stayed home..." it would not have happened. It doesn't have to be violent...it usually turns violent... because the police make it so... and when outside agitators blend in with their own agenda. Maxine Waters did not advocate violence. She advocates change.
     
  10. missy1974

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    So you are saying that the investigation wasn't complete when they charged him then too? I'm not disagreeing with you, I actually feel that it might be the case.
     
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    No, he asked them to leave.
     
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    hmmm interesting, IMO I think if it was a heart ailment and/or drugs/stress after the struggle in the car, I think it would have happened regardless. I'm still not convinced either way of cause of death, but I'm leaning towards heart, and question Dr. Tobin's whole testimony now. Thanks for your point of view... I hope this is what the jury is doing... discussing it.
     
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    The jury is NEVER there when they discuss motions.
     
  14. tara83

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    I just pray that George Floyd will receive justice.I'll never understand how a fellow human being can watch that tape and not see how horrific Chauvin's behavior was.
     
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    But doesn't designate WHICH charge? This makes me *cray cray* when such polls are done. As I don't believe that these folks who are in the polls are educated as to charges, jury directions, and elements.

    Reason why I stick here, and post about such with others as to CHARGES, JURY DIRECTIONS, and ELEMENTS.

    MOO

    I haven't ventured to MSM in some time.... as I did with COVID iykwim
     
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    RANCH United we stand, divided we fall

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    Looks like DC was arrested and charged on May 29th which was only a few days after GF died. So the investigation had just started.

    George Floyd's Arresting Officer Charged With 3rd-Degree Murder, Manslaughter
     
  17. Shaddow

    Shaddow Be the change that you wish to see in the world

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    There was no medical help rendered to save GF life. NONE. Chauvin refused help for GF. He could have turned him over when Lane said no pulse and started CPR. He did not and GF died. Chauvin chose death for GF.
     
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    Keep in mind what I posted in post #5??? or so on this thread. Aggravating of charges.
     
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    No. They could have charged him once they felt they had enough evidence to convict.
    The investigation can continue after that point, and if the investigation points to innocence after he/she is charged, those charges can then be dropped.
     
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    Oh! Gotcha! It's all in context then within his entire directions. The sentences before, after.. matter. Perhaps you can share the link for such to share?
     
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