MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #7

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  1. KeepHopeAlive

    KeepHopeAlive New Member

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    I agree that this is a very likely scenario for Josh. The only connection I see between Jacob and Josh is that someone from the Abbey could be involved (not necessarily the same person).
     


  2. shergal

    shergal Active Member

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    IMO, it isn't "obvious" because it all makes sense that it could have been DR until you try to imagine what DR would have done AFTER he had Jacob (if he had indeed taken him.)

    1. Knock Jacob over the head and stick him in his basement or an outbuilding and hope the cops wouldn't come and search?
    2. Run holding Jacob and hide him somewhere on his land?

    It just doesn't seem possible to me. He had no way of knowing LE would skip so many vital steps because they were concentrating on Jacob having been taken in a car. (Even though he was the one who said there was a car.) I feel, being intelligent, he would have assumed cops would search his home and his land, since it happened at the end of his driveway.

    I do think there were some stories made up (or exaggerated) by DR about earlier cars flying through his yard, because tracks did not prove that. I agree that a car that drove fast through his yard in the afternoon would have had nothing to do with an abduction later that night anyway.

    I think that rather than having abducted Jacob himself, he has an inkling who did take him, and thus the changing stories, the vagueness about cars and "what I saw" as he tries (IMO) to prevent this other person from being looked at.

    Early reports from detectives, FBI and media on the case did NOT mention anything but DR having seen one small dark car in his driveway. These other cars were never mentioned by DR until after 2003/04 when Kevin came forward with his story of having been in DR's driveway. (You can search all through any reports that have been made public and news articles or interviews from 1989 to 2003 for proof of this - the extra cars were never mentioned until after Kevin's story was made public.)

    I do NOT feel Jacob's and Josh's (or the Reker girls) cases are connected. My own opinion on Josh G. is that he was taken by someone from the abbey. As Trino stated, the bloodhounds tracked Josh's scent to the abbey, and then LE was not allowed inside. The Reker girls have been strongly tied to Eckroth (in our who's who) and someone who knew Mary's bf. I still think there is a possibility that Jacob's and Jared's cases could be connected somehow.
     
  3. Sasquatch321

    Sasquatch321 Well-Known Member

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    You know what your heart is telling you and thank you for sharing.
     
  4. human

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    I am not saying DR had a thing to do with it, but there is a picture of him on here in his running shorts bare chested. He is in fabulous condition.

    He runs many many marathons a year. No weakling can do that
     
  5. human

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    1. where is the info that only animal bones were found? What LE says is that they have things they are keeping for advances in technology
    2. we do not know why he is POI, but he was so named after the searches
     
  6. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    1. this was a crime of opportunity. These boys had never been out at night like that, so it wasn't as if anyone could be planning for the day to do it.
    2. people who do this kind of thing do not plan or think. They are caught up in the excitement of the moment. Just as people do crazy things because they have "deer fever".

    Deer fever is when hunters get so excited they shoot at anything, including their children, friends, etc. Not on purpose.
    3. This was a very opportune time. The things fell into place. Planning was not on the top of the list
     
  7. Sasquatch321

    Sasquatch321 Well-Known Member

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    Solid assertion, because anyone who may have planned this doesn't leave their vehicle 50 yards behind them on someone elses gravel driveway.
     
  8. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Teachers have to interact with parents all of the time. They may have to give them the news that their child is going to fail a class, for instance.

    It is puzzling to me why he would not go speak with the Wetterlings. After all, he had the unfortunate experience of having it happen on his property. Nothing to do with him.

    He taught children of that age. The sorrow must have been great for him then. And no one was implying that he had a thing to do with it for years and years and years
     
  9. HEY YOU!

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    I think DR had fantasies about having a young boy even if briefly. He must have known these boys, he had a disguise and looked into each face before picking Jacob...why? Told them to not look back or he'd shoot...didn't want them to see him going up driveway. Boys looked back and did not see car exiting scene. If perp had a car, it would not have been necessary to tell the boys not to turn around just to run. I think he figured he would do this in the street and thus leave no evidence. If he planned on carrying him up the grass, he would not have left any footprints and thus would not attract attention to his home. Obviously, there was a change in plans and Jacob may have made a run for it, also Kevin's tire tracks right next to footprint brought investigation to DR as well. He had to dispose of Jacob sooner than he had hoped due to the change in his plans.

    I don't think this has anything to do with the other cases mentioned at all. It was a crime of opportunity done by a very twisted man.
     
  10. Sasquatch321

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    DR doesnt act right for the supposed guy he is. At the same time though it was also the Wetterlings who took 20 years before speaking to DR themselves. The whole deal is hard to justify.
     
  11. ELOCsoul

    ELOCsoul Verified Author - "Finding Jacob Wetterling"

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    Ever heard of the 80/20 rule? Not sure who it is playing in the dirt after all.
     
  12. human

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    For some of us, Jacob is a real child. For some of us, who do not know who the perp is, <modsnip>, we need to discuss things such as the relevance of missing tire tracks and perhaps the smell of a cadaver in a trunk.
     
  13. Trino

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    What year is that photo? I don't doubt he can run, but that does not mean in his 50's he could overpower a 20 yr old college kid. What reason would he have to harm Josh G?
     
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    silverngold, that site doesn't work for me. give us some snippets please. If it is tarot cards, we don't need it.
     
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    He would not have been in his 50's when Josh was taken would he have been?

    DR is in superb condition.

    A guy his age who does many marathons a year. That is 26 miles of running. Many a year. And with good times.

    Powerful.
     
  18. KeepHopeAlive

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    channel 9 (kmsp or fox 9) just had something on about Joy's blog tonight uncovering the story about the assaults before Jacob went missing. I think they wanted to get something in before WCCO to beat them or something. I pray some new information comes out of either of these stories! We need to figure out what happened.
     
  20. Sasquatch321

    Sasquatch321 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to disturb the party too much but this would put the theory of a stranger abduction/vehicle used back into play. I'd like to see more real truth of just Jacobs case instead of trying to find ghostly links.
     
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