MN MN - Joshua Guimond, 20, Collegeville, 9 Nov 2002 - #2

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  1. jessefli

    jessefli New Member

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    I have some additional thoughts to add quick. Expanding beyond the monks, could there be a possibility that somehow students or other residents were the ones involved in his disappearance? There is the Collegeville institute about a 5 min walk from Metten court where he left the card party from. I attended a party before covid down fruit farm road, about an 8ish min walk from Metten, in a house that housed students but doesn't appear on the campus map. That whole area is populated with students and parties on the weekend. Not to mention that down that road there is the locally used Parish center and Prayer house. Though I doubt anyone would be using either of those in the middle of the night stranger things have happened.
     
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  2. ThePhantom

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    Hello Jessefli and welcome!! Responding to your thoughts about the possibility of others being involved in Josh's disappearance -- my feeling -- yes -- I think they may be (bad) people who knew some of the monks and may have possibly acted on one of these monk's behalf.
     
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    I feel like he's gotta still be on campus. I don't think he got very far without help, where the possibility of others acting alone or in assistance to the monks might come in. Now it comes down to who might those people be.
     
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    After reading the description of the woods in the vicinity of the campus, it does have me wondering if he isn't there somewhere. Heartbreaking.
     
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    ''Guimond, circa 2002; Age-progression to age 30 (circa 2012)
    • Missing Since 11/09/2002
    • Missing From Collegeville, Minnesota
      • White
      • Date of Birth 06/18/1982 (38)
      • Age 20 years old
      • Height and Weight 5'10 - 6'0, 170 pounds
      • Clothing/Jewelry Description A gray Gap or St. John University's hooded sweatshirt, blue jeans, and a wristwatch.
      • Distinguishing Characteristics Caucasian male. Blond hair, blue eyes. Guimond He has a vertical scar on his shoulder about four inches long and half an inch wide. He is supposed to wear eyeglasses or contact lenses, but did not have either with him at the time of his disappearance. His nickname is Josh.''
      • Guimond was last seen between approximately 11:00 p.m. and midnight on November 9, 2002, leaving Metten Court, a dormitory on the north end of the St. John's University campus in Collegeville, Minnesota. He was a junior at the university at the time he disappeared, majoring in political science.

        Guimond left a party at Matten Court to go to the bathroom and when he did not return within fifteen minutes, his friends assumed he had walked back to his on-campus apartment at St. Maur House in the middle of campus. He apparently never arrived there, however. His friends called his apartment shortly after they last saw him, and assumed he was asleep when they got no answer.

        Guimond's car was later found undisturbed on the campus. His friends reported him missing the next evening when they could not find him and he failed to appear a school function. His eyeglasses, contact lenses and credit cards were left behind and no personal belongings were missing from his apartment. At the time he vanished, he was not wearing clothing appropriate for the weather.

        In the hours after Guimond disappeared, and on subsequent days, someone erased items from his computer hard drive. It isn't clear who did this or whether the erasure is connected to his disappearance. Some of the information that was erased, and later recovered, was about making fake identification cards.

        One theory is that Guimond was struck by a vehicle on the night of his disappearance and killed. Some of the monks who at St. John's Abbey, attached to the university, had a history of alcohol abuse, and idea is that one of them hit him, and decided to cover up the crime to avoid a scandal. There isn't any evidence to support this, however; it remains a matter of speculation.


        Authorities, however, think it more likely that Guimond was slightly intoxicated when he left the party, and that he stumbled into a body of water and drowned. They have searched several nearby lakes, but failed to come up with any evidence to support their theory.''

     
  6. Sasquatch321

    Sasquatch321 Well-Known Member

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    John Sanners reign destroyed this cases chances. Every monk on the campus should have been lined up and questioned. An outside search party with superior knowledge and technology should have been asked to help search the complex stumpf lake in the first week.
     
  7. Sasquatch321

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    This is probably the best information I've seen shared since I've been in this thread. We don't know for sure that Josh left the drinking party to return to his room, we only know he suddenly left alone. Maybe he was going to the next party, or for a walk, or to go to the bathroom. Has all the area in between these places been exhausted by searches?
     
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    MAR 16, 2021
    Father Of Missing St. John’s Student Josh Guimond Files Lawsuit Against Stearns County In Search For Answers – WCCO | CBS Minnesota (cbslocal.com)
    [...]

    Attorney Mike Padden is representing Josh Guimond’s father, still fighting to find out what happened to his son. ...

    “We’ve commenced a lawsuit against Stearns County to secure the investigative file from the Stearns County Sheriff’s Office,” Padden said.

    [...]

    Padden has taken that push to court, with the desire their own private investigator can see what’s documented from the early days of Guimond’s November 2002 disappearance.

    Padden points to Jacob Wetterling’s kidnapping 13 years earlier, led by the same people, as the main reason the information should be released.

    [...]

    Stearns County has said the Guimond case remains active and in court filings contends releasing data would “jeopardize the integrity of the investigation and could impede potential prosecution of anyone who played a role.”

    A judge will make the final decision on what to do in the coming months. A father hoping it means his theories will see some follow-up after holding onto them for so long.

    [...]
     
  9. Sasquatch321

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    Hand over the file Stearns county, your efforts are done in this case.
     
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    Since Stearns County has nothing to hide, hand 'em over. They apparently "can't" solve the case after 19 years, so let someone else who wants to solve the case do it. Josh's Dad and the rest of the family deserve answers after being given zero cooperation on the part of St. John's, in addition to enduring a shoddy investigation by Stearns. What happened to Jacob Wetterling's case was a travesty. Enough.
     
  11. Sasquatch321

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    What the police should have been doing with their time-

    Mininum Once a year searches of the lakes

    Intensive investigation of the monk community

    Friends at the party

    Roommates

    Mininum once a year Ground searches

    Mininum Once a year podcast, tv and radio

    Unfortunately as the years fly by, hardly any of these have been done.
     
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  12. ThePhantom

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    Exactly and what are their reasons for failing to perform any of the above actions? One theory is that certain folks hope enough time passes that people will just give up. Well they didn't give up on Jacob, in spite of being misled and misinformed. So much hurt and pain in that case; same with Josh. I rarely see any attention paid to Josh's case anymore. Heartbreaking.
     
  13. Sasquatch321

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    "In the hours after Guimond disappeared, and on subsequent days, someone erased items from his computer hard drive. It isn't clear who did this or whether the erasure is connected to his disappearance. Some of the information that was erased, and later recovered, was about making fake identification cards."

    Can anyone believe that after 19 years of investigation, this information hasn't been solved and cleared up for us yet?

    What are they doing?
     
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    I'm not too hopeful anything will happen here. Should've went with a different attorney..... being Rassier's appeal in his case just got tossed out!
     
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    ELOCsoul Verified Author - "Finding Jacob Wetterling"

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  16. ThePhantom

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    Thank you so much for letting us know!! It's been far too long since Joshua went missing -- almost 20 years now. Someone knows something.
     
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    So true. That could very well be the root of all in this case.
    But, maybe as is the case a lot of the times, Police know more than they are letting on. ?
    Hopefully?...
     
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    Josh Guimond Lawsuit Targets Early Days Of Investigation
    Mar 16, 2021
     
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