MO MO - Ricky McCormick, 41, St Louis, 30 June 1999

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  1. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999.

    The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the victim's pants pockets.

    The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery and McCormick's murderer has never been found.

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    Full article: click here
    Ciphers: click here
     
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  3. tapu

    tapu Pretty scary.

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    Interesting....

    I notice in the article they say that seeking the public's help in codebreaking is a special circumstance. Of course it would be rare for someone outside professional cryptography to be able to contribute, but the Zodiac case has one or more celebrated examples of citizen-solving, I believe.

    I'm not bad at the skill, having run into opportunities to practice it in my field of work, but I definitely don't have the patience. Yi!
     
  4. belimom

    belimom Our lives begin to end the day we become silent ab

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    bbm

    I agree. I just wonder who could help with it if the FBI has been working on it for about 12 years and haven't been able to decipher it. I took a look at it and then thought - what could I do that they couldn't, kwim? Of course, there is obviously someone out there - or maybe two someones - who know what it means.
     
  5. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Active Member

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    I say give it to the genuis kid with the IQ higher than Einstein or people with autism that have that gift & throughly enjoy such things.
     
  6. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Anyone find anything further about the case itself? All I could locate were several StL Post Dispatch articles @ $2.95 apiece.
     
  7. buffetoflies

    buffetoflies Active Member

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    ??? It's Ricky's code, so if he's dead, who else knows it?
    I am surprised the fbi couldn't get other similar codes of his. If he was into it since he was a child, he must have others lying around.

    Also, article said he dropped out of school, but that he could read an write. I bet he wasn't a very good speller, so chances are part of the note is misspelled which would make it harder to figure out if it really is a code. I read about a bit, and it seems like most people think it is just Ricky's own sort of shorthand.
     
  8. Quiche

    Quiche New Member

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    Why didn't they type it out for us! I can barely read it-- but, I do love encryption! Hmmmm
     
  9. Quiche

    Quiche New Member

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    Poor spelling would make it very hard. Sheesh.
     
  10. Aking

    Aking New Member

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    I work in manufacturing, it looks like a bunch of random serial and part numbers. That's all I can come up with.
     
  11. amandab

    amandab Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so here's what I've got for the 2nd page, if it makes it any easier to try and figure out. Some of his letters weren't super-clear, so I did the best I could:

    ALPNTE GLSE-SE ERTE
    VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
    PNRTRSE ONDRSEWLD NCBE
    NWLDZLRCMSPNEWLDSTSMEXL
    DULMT6TUNSE NCBEXC
    (MUNSAISTENMUNARSE)
    KLSE-LRSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
    (SAE6NSE SE NMBSE)
    NMNRCBRNSEPTE2PTEWSREBKNSE
    26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOSOLE173RTRSE
    356LE CLGSEOUNUTKEDKRSE PSESHLE
    651MTCSEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE
    99.84.5 5UNEPLSENCRSEADLTSENSKSENBSE
    NSREONSE PVTSEWLDNCBE (3XORL)
    NMSENRSEIN2NTRLERCBRNSENTSRCRBNE
    LSPNSENGSPSEMKSEKBSEPCBEAVXL’R
    HMCRENMREFCBE 1/2MUNDPLSE
    D-W-M14HIL XDRLX
     
  12. amandab

    amandab Well-Known Member

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    Here's what I've got for the other page (there's a lot of "NCBE" in it, fwiw):

    (MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
    TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
    PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
    AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
    WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
    ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
    (NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
    (TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
    (FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
    (CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
    (BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
    (TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
    (194WLD’SNCBE)(TRFXL)
     
  13. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Thanks much, amandab.
     
  14. Mariel Van Arkle

    Mariel Van Arkle Active Member

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    The first thing that jumps out at me is that the "words" are extremely long, as though each real letter would be represented by two or more coded letters. I know absolutely nothing about coding, but this is interesting.

    Oh, and also, the numbers 71, 74 and 75 are interesting because they are all major freeways that run through southwestern ohio.
     
  15. sfbaynancydrew

    sfbaynancydrew New Member

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    Having worked with folks who are brain injured, I have to tell you, this looks an awful lot like the sort of gibberish they would write. It made perfect sense in their heads, but wasn't translating in writing.

    I suspect the reason they haven't cracked this in 12 years is because it's just jibberish. If there's no order or logic behind it there is no "code" and therefore nothing to crack.

    I think it's a lot more fun to hope that it's a brilliant mastermind who we just need to outsmart.
     
  16. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    High recurrence of the letter combination "SE."

    I agree with sfbaynancydrew; I'm afraid it will mean nothing - except to him: a private expression of a private language.
     
  17. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Well-Known Member

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    May I please ask was this the victims Ricky McCormicks hand writting?
     
  18. sfbaynancydrew

    sfbaynancydrew New Member

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    Normally I would be all over this type of puzzle but with 1. no one's life in imminent danger and 2. no reward, I'm not feeling that motivated.

    Plus, the cautious side of me is also suspicious of the FBI's motives for going public with this...they may just be trying to lure the killer by appealing to his ego. In other words, "the killer is so desperate for attention, he'll be dumb enough to come forward to try to get attention for "cracking the code".

    I dunno...something just seems off about the whole thing.
     
  19. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    Good question, I'll see if I can find out.

    I was also thinking I would let my Autistic son take a look at it fwiw, I'll print it for him, maybe he will get something out of it.

    I have come up with a few words out of it so far, I usally can look at jumbles like this and find stuff in them, I'm not sure if it is part of my slight dyslexia but I rock at word finds...lol, not that that will help :crazy:
     
  20. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.I would like to look at his whole case story,the way he was murdered and where he was found ect.Is there anything out there on his case?I'm thinking these notes were in his pockets the day he died for a reason.Someone else he possibly knew knows this code too.Even if it's known only to them.
     
  21. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    I wonder if he had a twin ?
     

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