MO MO - Ricky McCormick, 41, St Louis, 30 June 1999

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  1. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    Back again.
    Forgot to add that the lack of punctuation is probably obvious to all. I'm wondering if he uses a letter, to "end" a thought or note. Like the letter "E". Plug that in, and see if it works to "end" a string of words. If I extract the E, from my compass bearing, (continue bearing east), the directions still take you to the same places. i.e., the E could easily be used to "end" that line of direction. As would the . (period punctuation).

    ... back later
     


  2. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

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    BloodShotEyes, I agree the numbers in those three lines could correspond to highways, and it does look like directions. But if NCBE stands for North, continue bearing East, how do we explain the many other instances of NCBE throughout the cipher?

    What about the letters preceding the "hwy numbers"? Thoughts?

    FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE
    CDNSE PRSE ONSE 74 NCBE
    PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE

    I think the three sets of different three letters at the beginning of those three lines (FLR, CDN, PRT) are significant. Any ideas about what they mean? I've googled them, but couldn't find any correlation.
     
  3. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    bessie: I know what you mean. I pondered that very thing. That's why I wondered if the "E" was his punctuation, for ending a sentence or phrase. Really struggling with this one.

    State of mind:
    If RickyM wrote cryptically, since he was about 10 year old (as reported), it caused me to think that he was a very secretive child. Wondering more about that, than anything. Protecting one's own private thoughts, all through his young life, is very interesting to me.
     
  4. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

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    You're right about INC and TFRNE. I changed my working transcript this morning when I looked at the cipher with fresh eyes. Made a few other changes, too.

    I'm not sure what to make of the SE's except they are indeed plentiful. :) I've been working with the assumption that they simply represent the letter "S". Like in this line:

    [FONT=&quot]651 MTLSE HTLSE N CUTCTRS NMRE

    motels and hotels on 651?
    [/FONT]
     
  5. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    Bessie, you might try this. I write these kind of directional notations to myself. And it is maddening to anyone who tries to figure it out, if they are trying to help me, while I drive. Try simply "saying" the first word that comes to your mind, if you had written down these directions. It is not going to match exactly to the letters. You are just trying to get the mood/flow of the directions. It might help us "stumble" on the exact word.

    For example:
    I'm getting the "sense" of "Follow Right or south, Proceed on Down 71, North, Continue Bearing.

    Just continuing to play with this word "flow", rather than searching for the exact meaning of individual groupings of letters.
     
  6. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    Try using all of the "E"s, as a way to simply end a word.
     
  7. BloodshotEye

    BloodshotEye New Member

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    Bessie, your post #68 is very helpful. We should make that a sticky.
    Thank you very much for the sequence count.
     
  8. Steely Dan

    Steely Dan Former Member

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    BBM

    Do those look like license plate numbers to anyone else?
     
  9. Reality Orlando

    Reality Orlando Verified Aquaculturalist

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    Wow, impressive. I especially like the NCBE reference. Good job!
     
  10. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

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    Actually, I made corrections/changes this morning. This new version is more accurate. This time I counted 46 instances of SE used alone, 14 in the first page, and 32 in the second.

    [FONT=&quot]P1[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot](MND MKNEA RSE-N-S-M-KNARE) (ALSM)
    TFRNE NPINSENPRSERCBBNSENPRSE INC
    PRSE NMRSE PREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLF TCXL NCBE)
    AL-RPPIT XLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBR NSEPRSE
    WLDRCBRNSE NT SSNETXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
    AL WLDNCBETSME LRSERLSE URGLSNE AS N WLDNCBE
    (NOPFSE NLSRE NCBE)NTE GDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
    (TENE TFNE NCRTSE NCBE INC)
    (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71NCBE)
    (CDNSE PRSE ONSE 74NCBE)
    (PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75NCBE)
    (TF NCMSP SOLE MRDE LUSE TOTE WLDNWLDNCBE)
    (194 WLD’S NCBE)(TRFXL)
    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [FONT=&quot]NOTES[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]ALPNTE GLSE- SE ERTE
    VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
    PNRTRSE ONDRSEWLD NCBE
    NWLDXLRCMSP NEWLD STS ME XL
    DULMT6TUNSE NCBEXC
    (MUNSAI STEN MUNARSE)
    KLSE-LRSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MRSEN-MRSE
    (SAE6NSE SE NMBSE)
    NMNRCBRNSEPTE 2 PTEWSRC BRNSE
    26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOS OLE 173RTRSE
    356LE CLGSEOUNUTXE DKRSE PSESHLE
    651 MTLSEHTLSEN CUTCTRS NMRE
    99.84.5 ZUNEPLSEN CRSEADLTSEN SKSENSE
    NSREONSE PVTSEWLDNCBE (3XORL)
    NMSENRSE IN2 NTRLERCB RNSENTSRCRBNE
    LSPNSENGSPSEMKSERBSENCBE AVXLR [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]HM CRENMRE NCBE 1/2MUNDDLSE
    D-W-M-Y 14HIL XDRLX[/FONT]
     
  11. wfgodot

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  12. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    I'm kind of enjoying the fact that he appears to be a simple man and yet he stumps the best of the best. I'm not past the writing on the paper, though, as far as analyzing. To me it seems some punctuation is very important to him, like the dash and parens, and I'm still wary that those N's look more like tilde's to me, "~". The overwritten letters seem somehow significant to the solution in some way, too.
     
  13. Quiche

    Quiche Well-Known Member

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    Are the margins blown for anyone else?
     
  14. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    Quiche, My margins are not.

    Has anyone tried printing the paper and folding it different ways? (haha)
     
  15. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    If these are directions X may = outer In some places but not all , I dont think it will be uniform.

    outer lane/ outer connecter

    Again maybe.LOL
     
  16. Adrian Harbinger

    Adrian Harbinger Undercover Agent

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    It had to be one of the roads in this area.

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    You guys may have already scoured this so it might be useless, but I thought I would post it just to see if any of the road names or whatever jump out at you. It would sure be helpful if the FBI would throw us a bone here with a few more details.

    I am having a blast following this and I am learning a lot! Thanks. :)
     
  17. Adrian Harbinger

    Adrian Harbinger Undercover Agent

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    One thing I haven't seen mentioned here unless my aging eyes missed it is the point that the "message(s)" on the page marked "NOTES" are clearly divided into sections by being circled. I only know what I am learning, so forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question, but shouldn't each section on this page be looked at as a distinctly separate message (albeit probably using the overall encryption)? Like:

    Ok, feel free to dope-slap me now. ;)
     
  18. Carmen29

    Carmen29 New Member

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    News article on this from the St Louis Post Dispatch

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-00127992bc8b.html

    For page 1.... i came up with different letters for some of the 'words' that the list above. I came up with a "RCBRN" that comes up 4 times... you have to look very closely . i saved it and zoomed in. (this is in addition to the repeating of wld (9 times), prse (4), ncbe (11), tfrne (2)
     
  19. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    I agree with the fact that the frequency and placement of the SE s feels like and end point to me, but they occur too frequently to represent a period per se. I wonder if they don't indicate a SpacE between words or trains of thoughts.

    ETA you guys have come up with a lot of great ideas/thoughts today. I am gonna go back and read from the beginning of the thread again and see if anything hits me diferently of from a fresh perspective.
     
  20. Adrian Harbinger

    Adrian Harbinger Undercover Agent

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    I think I read somewhere that Ricky only had a grade school education or something like that, so I started thinking that maybe everyone has been over-thinking this thing. The guy died in 1999 and so the internet was hot and chat was hot. U no wut I m-e-n? Whether 41 year old Ricky was into that seen or not, the notion of such simple abbreviations is not knew.

    This second circled part from the NOTES page suddenly jumped off the page. Perhaps I am way off and reading into this, but humor me. Look at this:

    Now read this and think about it:

    (Man says to my nurse)
    Kelsy, resty, trusty, trusty, makes'n [the] mercy (or: makes them see)
    (Say sex and he's the imbecile)


    Maybe nothing, but feud-4th-hot. :)
     

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