MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #13

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  • #781
only one man said he was involved , only one man had the matching green van only one man did time in leavenworth , with steve garrison -garrison who led to the webster couny dig cause a friend told him they were killed in a drunken party on the creek only one man ((is connected by working for serial rapist of jackie johns attemped - kidnapper of heather starkey from highschool -kickapoo , same as suzy and stacy , .. -and convicted murderer of jackie johns , ... that is -gerald carnahan , whose still suspect in debbie lewis , and kelle anne workman murders )) only one man connected thru the pawn shop--where the gold teeth were pawned , because the pawnshop paid for his wifes funeral only one man related to another missing woman , in the year prior to 1992
YES - YOUR STARTING POINT IN RICKY DYKES
 

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  • #782
Reprisal - OMG, is this real life?

hahahaha
 
  • #783
I don’t want to butt in with extraneous material but I would like to add something I haven’t spoken much about - at least not recently.

There used to be a poster who had the handle of “close to LE” who made many comments but clammed up when the specific question were asked regarding the suspect’s name.

He later took on the handle of “Goat” (odd name but I didn’t choose it.). In any event I did everything I could to identify him but he never was rude or condescending. He was still interested in new names but he also said that someone (I can’t be specific) let him peek at the primary or so far as I know, the only suspect. Although I no longer have his private messages and emails I remember one thing he said to me I have never forgotten.

He said that he had been tracking this individual for 10 years and that everything pointed at him as being the likely perp. He went on to say that this individual was some distance from Springfield “but not too far away.” He took a good friend along and they both observed the suspect on his job. I gathered that this was a one day’s round trip drive.

His source was a member of a well respected LE agency and he gave signals that he might be in LE himself. He was reluctant to reveal more as he felt it would jeopardize his friend and put himself into physical danger.

What I can confidently state is that he did not concoct this story out of whole cloth. He did tell me enough about himself that checked out. We both had ties to the St Louis County area and it was obvious he wouldn’t have gone to making up a story to be rattling my cage.

He maintained a strong interest in the so-called “Grand Jury 3). He was particularly interested in the one near Humansville.

I hope no one thinks I am spinning some tall tale to somehow enhance my credibility. Of all of the individuals named in this case he is the one I would put most credence to. He could be wrong, of course. I would say this in my own defense and that would be that I had about 30 years in public relations and can usually tell if someone is being straight with me or lying.

Please carry on and if someone would like me to reestablish contact with him, I will do my utmost to do so. At my age I no longer buy green bananas,
 
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Okay, I’ll start with this even if it’s been discussed. I think Stacey was the target and I think Robert Cox was the “lone” perpetrator. Robert Cox worked with Staceys dad at his car dealership and I think the motive was sexual. Thoughts?

Retired Det Neal who most consider the best investigator at SPD thinks he’s just screwing with them .
Stu say’s he never saw Cox at work , but does acknowledge that he could have seen Stacey visiting him .
The statement about him working on Delmar in front of 1717 was interesting , but the reporting had so much mis information and embellishments it’s not funny . Until I see some factual report of that , I’m skeptical .
He basically botched every crime with single women he committed in Cali & FL prior to 1992 , I’m not inclined to believe all of a sudden he could pull three off , Then go to Texas 3 years later in 1995 and botch the kidnapping of the young teen . That makes no sense to me .

The One criticism I would have of LE , why would you use HIS g/f to verify his alibi ?? instead of interviewing the congregation at Central assembly of God ??
I know manpower was taxed , but that’s just very sloppy or they didn’t give much credibility to the Cox tip .
 
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Cox followed Stacy at high school parties and knew about her last minute change of sleep plans? Cox has a place to take bodies ? He was a loner with a poor family with a small war box 1940s house.....


My point is that Cox knew her. You don’t have to be so hostile.
 
  • #786
Why would he not take her when she was alone?

why risk kidnapping the other 2 women and bringing with it even greater risk of being caught?



I admit I don’t have all the answers. I was just trying to redirect the conversation into something substantial. Cox had his girlfriend lie about an alibi, stating that they were in church. Years later the girlfriend stated that she in fact lied about the alibi. So, Cox indeed didn’t have an alibi for that night. Also, in a jailhouse interview, he specifically stated he knew the three women were dead. He said he knew for a fact the women were dead. Why would he say that if he didn’t do it or if he didn’t know the individuals who did do it?
 
  • #787
I don’t believe one person could pull this off. The police obviously shared that same view as well going by what was said by the profiler who went by the total sum of information.

MOO
 
  • #788
It should be obvious why I have settled on the one perp theory.

It was either one perp or a cop.

It should also now be obvious that a certain someone wants to shut down discussion about this case. That isn’t rocket science to figure out.

If this post doesn’t make sense it is because the preceding vulgar post was removed.
 
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  • #789
Arkansas wasn't being the least bit hostile "SNOWFLAKE". It's you that can't handle deviating opinions. And, you clearly aren't the brightest one in the room are you. Go waste your time listening to Richard and Co. By all means. Stupid *****!


So lovely getting to see your true colors, I knew if I pushed you enough they’d come out eventually. So, who’s the stupid one now? Thank you so much for showing us all who you truly are. Have a great day and I will not be replying to your posts any longer as You’ve reciprocated what I’ve wanted you too. Which is the truth of who you really are.
 
  • #790
Okay, I’ll start with this even if it’s been discussed. I think Stacey was the target and I think Robert Cox was the “lone” perpetrator. Robert Cox worked with Staceys dad at his car dealership and I think the motive was sexual. Thoughts?
I've always thought the gathering up and placing the purses in one spot had similarities to how trained war fighters operate when executing raids which require taking control of those present and securing the objective. In today's parlance it would be a part of "site exploitation" for intel purposes. The thought process for those actions that night, as a matter of routine, could have simply been for security reasons.
 
  • #791
u guys ignore how Cox could barely handle a woman when he was younger and stronger in the 70s and again in mid 90s he blundered so bad he got arrested immediately......so he blunders an abduction and murder those times but got lucky in one involved THREE women ?

And no way he followed Stacy to Janelle’s.... how would he know she changed her plans last minute? Cox theory makes no sense.

it was someone with familiarity to the Sherrill Suzie and the house
 
  • #792
It should be obvious why I have settled on the one perp theory.

It was either one perp or a cop.

It should also now be obvious that a certain someone wants to shut down discussion about this case. That isn’t rocket science to figure out.

If this post doesn’t make sense it is because the preceding vulgar post was removed.


I like reading your posts but the evidence that was known by the cops certainly didn’t believe one person did this.


To control 3 women even with a gun would be bloody hard to do and this crime points to more than one person involved.


You could be right about a corrupt cop because of how badly it was botched but then a lot of small town police in your country seems to be totally incompetent at what they do for a living.

MOO
 
  • #793
theres a big myth about this being small town police..... Springfield is third biggest city in MO and a population of 150k. FBI brought in immediately as well...... Clays want u to think Asher and Webb and all these cops and DAs are all Barney Fife.... Darrell Moore said grave robbers aren’t cleared by everyone and he’s now a Deputy Attorney General in the state and assists with the bar and many of LE agencies around the country...
So lets maybe believe cops more than cursory opinions and “but he’s creepy!!” Type things....
 
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theres a big myth about this being small town police..... Springfield is third biggest city in MO and a population of 150k. FBI brought in immediately as well...... Clays want u to think Asher and Webb and all these cops and DAs are all Barney Fife.... Darrell Moore said grabs robbers aren’t cleared by everyone and he’s now a Deputy Attorney General in the state and assists with the bar and many of LE agencies around the country...
So lets maybe believe cops more than cursory opinions and “but he’s creepy!!” Type things....



I do apologize for thinking this was a small town with a small police force.

That was my assumption from the UK as I had never even heard of this place before this crime. We only hear about the big city’s and this isn’t one of them as far as I’m aware from hearing people speak about the U.S.
 
  • #795
u guys ignore how Cox could barely handle a woman when he was younger and stronger in the 70s and again in mid 90s he blundered so bad he got arrested immediately......so he blunders an abduction and murder those times but got lucky in one involved THREE women ?

And no way he followed Stacy to Janelle’s.... how would he know she changed her plans last minute? Cox theory makes no sense.

it was someone with familiarity to the Sherrill Suzie and the house


Ricky Dikes
 
  • #796
IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW ( A GROUP) OF PEOPLE -QUOTE THE JUDGE COULD STAND AROUND WATCHING A 9 YR, OLD STRANGLED, ITS THE SAME NAMES AS DID THE THREE MISSING WOMEN
Judge reveals details of child's death
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- In an open letter to the killer of a 9-year-old girl, a county judge described how the child allegedly was forced to watch the digging of her grave and threatened the unknown slayer with the gas chamber.

'I am personally going to see that you are sent to the gas chamber,' Greene County Circuit Judge Don Clough told the killer, in a letter sent to the Springfield news media Thursday.
'I'm going to be present when they strap you in, and it's going to be the happiest day of my life.'
Clough warned new evidence soon will be available in the death of Shirley Jane Rose and invited witnesses of the slaying to come forward voluntarily or alsoface the death sentence.

The child disappeared Oct. 17, 1975. Her decomposed body was found in a shallow grave near a municipal water supply north of Springfield Dec. 13, 1975.

'So that you will know that I know exactly the way things happened, I'm going to tell you about the last few minutes of Shirley's life,' the letter said. 'These facts have never been published by the news media.

'Shirley was taken out to McDaniel Lake. She was told she would be killed. She was made to stand there and watch her grave being dug. She was crying. When the grave was ready, you took your bare hands and strangled her. You were not alone. There were a number of other people with you.'
Clough said the child was abducted because the killer thought certain drugs would be returned to him or he would be paid for them if he had the child to trade.

'Unfortunately for Shirley, the search for her came about so fast that you panicked and killed her,' the letter said.

Clough said he had received the information when he was an attorney, from a client, and therefore could not reveal the source's identity. The former client, who is ill and could die at any moment, has been afraid to talk but wants the information about the killing released when he dies, Clough said.
 
  • #797
I admit I don’t have all the answers. I was just trying to redirect the conversation into something substantial. Cox had his girlfriend lie about an alibi, stating that they were in church. Years later the girlfriend stated that she in fact lied about the alibi. So, Cox indeed didn’t have an alibi for that night. Also, in a jailhouse interview, he specifically stated he knew the three women were dead. He said he knew for a fact the women were dead. Why would he say that if he didn’t do it or if he didn’t know the individuals who did do it?
I doubt Cox did it. I think he is an attention seeker. He’s got a lot of time on his hands lol. It never hurts to go back question people he knew then. It’s possible he was part of the crime or heard rumors about it. There is no harm in looking at him again.
 
  • #798
I don’t want to butt in with extraneous material but I would like to add something I haven’t spoken much about - at least not recently.

There used to be a poster who had the handle of “close to LE” who made many comments but clammed up when the specific question were asked regarding the suspect’s name.

He later took on the handle of “Goat” (odd name but I didn’t choose it.). In any event I did everything I could to identify him but he never was rude or condescending. He was still interested in new names but he also said that someone (I can’t be specific) let him peek at the primary or so far as I know, the only suspect. Although I no longer have his private messages and emails I remember one thing he said to me I have never forgotten.

He said that he had been tracking this individual for 10 years and that everything pointed at him as being the likely perp. He went on to say that this individual was some distance from Springfield “but not too far away.” He took a good friend along and they both observed the suspect on his job. I gathered that this was a one day’s round trip drive.

His source was a member of a well respected LE agency and he gave signals that he might be in LE himself. He was reluctant to reveal more as he felt it would jeopardize his friend and put himself into physical danger.

What I can confidently state is that he did not concoct this story out of whole cloth. He did tell me enough about himself that checked out. We both had ties to the St Louis County area and it was obvious he wouldn’t have gone to making up a story to be rattling my cage.

He maintained a strong interest in the so-called “Grand Jury 3). He was particularly interested in the one near Humansville.

I hope no one thinks I am spinning some tall tale to somehow enhance my credibility. Of all of the individuals named in this case he is the one I would put most credence to. He could be wrong, of course. I would say this in my own defense and that would be that I had about 30 years in public relations and can usually tell if someone is being straight with me or lying.

Please carry on and if someone would like me to reestablish contact with him, I will do my utmost to do so. At my age I no longer buy green bananas,

Since the "Close to LE" or "Goat" got a peek at the LE folder, did he also get a clue from LE as to what the motive for these abductions and presumed murders were?
 
  • #799
Since the "Close to LE" or "Goat" got a peek at the LE folder, did he also get a clue from LE as to what the motive for these abductions and presumed murders were?

That is a good question and if we discussed it, I don’t recall what he said. I’m not sure he knew. At that time a lot of names were being thrown about. I reviewed his messages last night and at one time I had about 300 messages but inadvertently deleted most of them accidentally.

I never put all my eggs in his basket as it was apparent at that time he was still looking for answers himself. One could extrapolate from those questions that he probably didn’t know himself. All I can say for certain he never lied to me. But I am certain his source was solid; very solid. I have said this before. He said a gun was used and the perp wore a hat. He said that there was DNA recovered but evidently didn’t link to a suspect.

Assuming it was the perp’s DNA it must indicate that the perp’s DNA is not in CODIS. That would seem to rule out the Grand Jury 3, Cox and Carnahan.

I remain convinced that we are looking at one single perp who has some police training or extensive knowledge of police investigation. I would imagine he jealously guards anything that might have his DNA on it.

I would add one more thing. A person who followed this case closely for many years had his computer hacked. A professional was brought in and traced the origin to the same location my suspect lives or lived.

I would love to give the police his name but it appears they are uninterested and would prefer the case remains buried in the property room. It is my understanding there are about 25 boxes of evidence in the property room.

I’m not going to suck up to anyone. My name is well known and my address and phone number are listed. I am not going to put his name anywhere on the internet. All it takes is one verified telephone call from the SPD. And it is possible they already have it.
 
  • #800
Springfield is the 150th most populous city in the United States. The last count was about 168,000 population. At one time there was Springfield and north Springfield but they merged a number of years ago. If one goes to the downtown center there is a plaque where “Wild Bill Hickok“ gunned down Davis Tutt over a pocket watch. The “calaboose” used to be located not far from there.

Sometime later he, himself, was shot dead with a shot in the back of his head in Deadwood, South Dakota while holding the infamous “aces and eights” now euphemistically known as the “dead man’s hand.” His killer, Jack McCall, was shortly duly hanged for this dastardly deed.
 
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