MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #5

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Was the station wagon parked on the front right of the vid?
If so, I saw someone or something...clear as mud right?

Right Cherie....right up close to the doors of the store.

*****Anyone here----can you link the original video?***

Please??!!
 
I know that there have been posts regarding the local funeral home on one of the previous threads, but I can't remember if this one was mentioned: http://www.wellsfuneralhome.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=242770&fh_id=11662. This is the obit of a Bonnie Kay Tutor Daugherty. Although Denise Tutor or Rachael Denise Tutor is not mentioned in the obit, Bonnie's surviving sister, Sherry Tutor Darby, is mentioned. I am just now taking a minute to look into the Tutor/Darby connection...Anyone else know anything about this?
 
Ok....forgive me if I'm wrong about this but I watched the gas station video once at the beginning of this case & there were 2 things that bothered me.
First, when JC gets called over by a "friend" (allegedly Sandy R*dd).... Her body language is very telling. She puts her head down while walking towards the "friend" & I think is not necessarily happy about seeing this person but feels she must respond out of doing what is expected or out of being sociable. This is not a happy, or truly welcomed hello, iykwim? It was something she was supposed to do in a sense.
Second, I thought that one of the 3 men inside the gas station watching JC leaves right after her & gets in his car close by the door and he is ** on his cellphone** which means he could be calling to alert someone that she is there & which way she was heading. Can someone here review & verify this? And if so, who is this man & has he been questioned? It appears to me that 1 of the 3 men inside the gas station seemed observant of JC while she was at the register.

All moo

Gas jug guy at pump by car hood.jpg he looks outside, at one point, as gas jug guy fills up
Screenshot 2014-12-30 at 11.42.10 PM.jpg and blue jacket guy is about to walk in
Screenshot 2014-12-30 at 11.40.21 PM.jpg that's the moment gas jug guy leaves in the background
He's at the counter, as pink lady leaves, to return just before Jessica enters - Edited.jpg your guy is at the counter as pink deli lady does her thing
Is he maybe holding a cell phone here - Edited.jpg the only time I caught what could be a cell phone or maybe even a lottery ticket or something he takes to the counter afterwards, was here
 
There's a great deal of discussion on details such as "Auntie Sha-sha" throughout Threads 1, 2, 3, 4.... These are highly recommended reading.

Charlotte Wilkerson refers to herself as "Auntie Sha-sha" in her interview with Janice Broach of Action5 News.

I am paraphrasing now: She says that Jessica and she were "close friends", and that Jessica called her "Auntie Sha-sha", and that she was listed in Jessica's cellphone directory as "Sha-sha".

There is absolutely no familial relationship.

She also tell her Ms. Broach that she's known Jessica Chambers her whole life, I think something even about since she was 10, which may mean wlkrsn was 10 when jess was born, a wild guess, as she tends to eat her words as she thinks and speaks. It would make sense living in a small town, except they seemed close.
 
Btw. The key to this case is to match phone pings of jc and suspects as well as who called or text who during or right after the murder.

Or whose phone went dead at specific times. What one WSer said earlier about the phone being left behind was either a mistake or it didn't matter to the perp/s made sense to me.
 
Based on feedback from my list of initial names mentioned in MSM, I have tried to correct the recommendations and even assemble the names in some sort of order so it is easier to follow. Again, please feel free to copy and paste my posted information and adjust/add/delete information as necessary. It takes me a great deal of time to go back and find every suggested change, time that I won't have much of after today. I'm just trying to help people understand all the people discussed in MSM. This can also serve as a central location for all relevant information.

1. Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Hurron Rd. Worked in Batesville. Her funeral was in Batesville.

2. Lisa Chambers. Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly, for 20 minutes.

3. Ben Chambers &#8211; Jessica's dad, lost son Ben Allen in a brutal car accident. <modsnip>

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5. Ray McClenic - Reported loud suspect vehicle.

6. Charlotte Wilkerson = Auntie Sha Sha, who lives across the street from Jessica's mom. According to mom, Sha Sha is the only friend Jessica really visited much since getting on the "right track," and Jessica mostly stayed at home. Charlotte was interviewed by the news saying that Jessica was going to a party that night. (We don't even know if Auntie Sha Sha is actually anybody's aunt; it's a nickname.)

7. Cole Haley - Fire Chief, thought to have been told Perp info from dying Jessica.

8. Ali Alsania - Gas station owner/one of last known to see Jessica alive. Reportedly gave all video equipment to LE.

9. Cassandra Market AKA Sandy Rudd - Asked Jessica for a smoke but she had wrong brand. Drove off with Ben Byers. Gave differing names. Aunt of Bryan Rudd. Cassandra Markett is in fact Sandy Rudd, yes, one in the same. She just gave the name Cassandra Market, for whatever reason, when she was interviewed outside of M&M and admitted to being the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette shortly before Jessica met her fate. She is also the one who was driving the car that Bejaun Byers rode in that night, seen on the video filling up a gas can, shortly before Jessica was murdered. Sandy Rudd gave the name Market, which was apparently her married name from an earlier marriage. Sandy Rudd admits to being the woman out of view in the M&M security camera footage, the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette, but turned it down since it either was or wasn't menthol (can't remember which she smokes). Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to his girlfriend/common law wife. Nephew Bryan Rudd.

10. Bejuan Byers (or Buyers, depending on the source), gas can man, . Bejuan Byers - filled up gas container, drove away with Sandy Rudd aka Casandra Markett. Brejuan Byers is gas can man in the striped shirt. He leaves M&M in Sandy Rudd's car. Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to <modsnip>.

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12. Bryan Rudd - Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death. Nephew of Sandy Rudd son of Theresa Rudd Flemming. Said to of lived in Iowa for past two years.

13. Theresa Rudd Flemming, is Bryan Rudd's mother. She was interviewed (not outside of the M&M, for once) by MSM as well. Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death.

14. Derek Turner - 31 yrs. Old. 1st person to be interviewed by LE. Knew Jessica, claims he doesn't know why he was questioned.

15. Eric Bibbs - Lived near car fire, interviewed by police.

16. George Mister - has a lengthy criminal history, including gang activities and an active case against him for kidnapping and robbing a local woman (http://www.panolian.com/v2/content.a...=george+mister). Give this link a look and help yourself to some of his many recent criminal mishaps in Panola County. George Mister stated in his interview with the news that Mr. Mister (who is named in the Panola paper as a local gang leader awaiting trial for kidnapping, assault, robbery, etc.) had texted Jessica a few days before her murder.

17. Rachael Tutor <modsnip>

18. Lynnsey Fowler - Friend/worked at Sonic frequently visited by Jessica/Crappie fishing night of incident.

19. Amber Sheilds - HS Friend/with Lynnsey Fowler at incident scene day after.

Jessica was involved in three different churches outside of Batesville and Courtland.
21. Crowder Baptist Church--Rev. Larry Kilgore, 15 miles from Batesville. Jessica confided in him personal information.
22. Charleston Community Church of God--Rev. Eric Greggs, 25 miles from Batesville
23. Pope, Liberty Hill Baptist Church, --Linda Oliver, 7 miles from Batesville Linda Oliver - Spoke at funeral, talked with Jessica about publishing a book about her life.

Unkowns
24. Unknown name - Female gas clerk delivering "chicken" to customers outside of station.
25. Unknown Name &#8211; 911 caller
26. Unkown Name &#8211; Tow Truck Driver

Timeline
Chambers lost his son in a horrific car accident a couple of years ago.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-speaks-out-after-daughter-set-on-fire-and-killed/

Saturday, December 6th 2014 approximately 8:15 p.m.
http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/2...ting-death-of-woman-found-burned-near-her-car
Jessica's car found fully engulfed
According to Panola County Sheriff Dennis Darby, a passing motorist alerted his department and the fire department to the scene. Darby says by the time rescue workers got on the scene the car was fully engulfed in flames. The driver tried to tell rescuers something but she was so badly burned she could not be understood. She was transported to Regional One where she later died
MSM Source:


Sunday, December 7th 2014 1:39 p.m.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-speaks-out-after-daughter-set-on-fire-and-killed/
The sheriff said deputies are on the lookout for two men they believe Jessica may have been with on Saturday night.

Monday, December 8th 2:04 p.m.
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/story/27575901/family-desperate-for-answers-in-daughters-heinous-murder
Several people are being questioned by detectives, but no arrests have been made. The teen's car, and any potential clues inside, are charred black. Investigators did find a cell phone at the scene. "We do have a phone that we believe is hers and that is what we are attempting to gather the information from," said Hale. Detectives spent Monday going through the phone for clues.

Reporter Mike Clark turns over gas station video evidence to the police department
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/clip/10932258/...nce-video-captures-jessica-chambers-last-hour

December 9th 8:51 p.m. - Charlotte Wilkerson Party Statement & Investigation Information
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/27589639/first-responder-tries-to-comfort-burning-victim-before-
"There was a party going on and she was there," said Chambers' acquaintance Charlotte Wilkerson. "When she left the party, that's when it happened to her."There is surveillance video of Chambers at a convenience store near her home a couple of hours before she died. Panola County Deputies watched it and shot video of at least an hour of it, paying attention to any people who walked in and out of the store. Champion says a judge signed an order so investigators can get Chambers' phone records. He expects to receive those Wednesday.

December 10th 9:06 p.m. - Derek Turner officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/27600181/man-questioned-in-death-of-jessica-chambers-released
Thirty-one-year-old Derrick Turner says he was picked up Monday morning and was taken to the Panola County jail where he was questioned in the death of 19-year-old Jessica Chambers. "I was just called in for a situation I didn't know nothing about." Turner said he knew Chambers. "But I don't just know her like that because I'm way older than her. So I've seen her around at stores and everything, but I don't just know her like that." Turner said he was not in Courtland, Mississippi when Chambers was discovered lying next to her car on fire. She died not long after she was found. "They was just asking me did I know her or was I sleeping with her, you know," said Turner. "Like I said, I didn't know her like that."Turner did know, "the times I was around her you know, she carried herself she was a good girl. She was a sweet girl so that's why I'm messed up about it, whatever happened to her, I hate it happened you know. "Turner said investigators never told him why he was being questioned in Jessica Chambers death.

December 10th &#8211; Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields visit crime scene
MSM Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/woman-set-on-fire/20195725/
Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields, who said they were close to Jessica Chambers, wanted to see the spot where their friend was attacked.
Fowler kept shaking her head in disbelief as she stared at the charred, rutted ground where Jessica Chambers' car sat after it apparently ran up a slight embankment. Fowler remembers the teen from her sleepovers with her sister.
Fowler said she passed by the scene Saturday on her way to fish for crappie at Enid Lake.
"Sunday morning, I took my phone off the charger and looked at Facebook, like I almost always do, and I saw the Fly High Jessica Chambers page," Fowler said, referring to the digital memorial Chambers' friends and family had set up.
"I got sick to my stomach," Fowler said once she realized what had happened. "I can't believe I didn't see anything when I passed by here. I wish I had. I would have helped her. I would have fought for her if I had to."
Fowler works at the Batesville Sonic Drive-In where Chambers was a frequent customer. She often would order one of those massive Route 44 drinks "that was almost as big as her," Fowler said.
"She was my Sonic baby. She was up there all the time, just all the time," Fowler said. "She always had that smile on her face, always looking in her mirror fixing those eyelashes."
Shields &#8212; who, like Fowler, lives close to the crime scene &#8212; went to school with Jessica Chambers at South Panola High School where Jessica Chambers graduated in 2013. They hung out there and socially.
"She had fun with life, Shields said. "She was a very likeable person and ready for anything. She got along with everybody."

December 12th 11:09 p.m. - Eric Bibbs officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...ath-jessica-chambers-says-he-did-not-know-her
One of the people investigators questioned is Eric Bibbs.
"That day that it happened. I had been here with a toothache since about 6 p.m.," said Bibbs. "I think maybe they came by here about 9:30 p.m., they even went to my grandma address. They called my mom."
Bibbs, a married father, lives just down the road from where Jessica Chambers was discovered horribly burned lying next to her burning car. Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. Bibbs says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric.*"He said there was an accident I think down the road and your name was mentioned," said Bibbs. "And he said I think one of the other people said the only Eric I know in this area is Eric Bibbs."
Bibbs told the detective he did not know Jessica Chambers and wasn't even aware of what had happened to her. The investigator never told him why he was being questioned.

December 16th &#8211; Ali Alsania Gas Station Store owner interview
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/media/...out-jessica-chambers-last-visit-to-his-store/

December 19th 6:02 p.m. - Mr. Mister and Rachael Tutor officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...ard-fund-grows-lab-results-expected-next-week
George Mister and Rachael Tutor say they're the latest to be questioned in Jessica Chambers murder.
"They kept us up there for like 6,7,8 hours," said Mister. "I took a lie detector test, I took a swab test."
Investigators wouldn't confirm the pair was questioned, but a jail log shows Mister's name on the date in question.
"They questioned me about a text message that I sent Jessica, two days before, and I guess that was why they may have thought something, I don't know," said Tutor.

December 16th &#8211; Ray McClenic reports of suspected vehicle
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...llow-new-lead-in-jessica-chambers-murder-case
"I called the sheriff's department and I told them everything that I knew," said tipster Ray McClenic. "I said, 'What y'all are looking for, I don't know what kind of vehicle.' I said, 'But it's got really, really loud pipes on it.'"
McClenic said he heard a vehicle driving fast down his street the night Jessica Chambers was discovered burning next to her car in Courtland, Mississippi more than one week ago.

December 16th &#8211; Ex Boyfriend Bryan Rudd cleared
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...ared-as-a-suspect-despite-social-media-claims
One thing is clear, investigators say Jessica's ex-boyfriend is not a suspect, despite what social media is saying.

Friday, December 29th 4:51 p.m. - Cause of death
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...hambers-investigators-seek-suspects/21005697/
Chambers was found on Herron Road in Courtland a little after 8 p.m. Dec. 6, walking away from her burning vehicle with burns over 98 percent of her body. Coroner Gracie Gulledge said the cause of the young woman's death was thermal injury. Officials classified Chambers' death as a homicide, but in spite of interviewing what they have said is more than 100 potential witnesses, they say they still have yet to emerge with a prime suspect.
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Let me count the ways...

  1. It only took an hour or so to process the crime scene? Vehicle was towed away immediately after it "cooled down". Really?
  2. Possible evidence was not collected/photographed from the crime scene and most likely was destroyed (empty bottles, foot prints, tire tracks, cigarette butts, burn patterns, windshield wiper, etc.).
  3. Mr. Tow Truck Driver stopped for smokes with with a key piece of evidence and let AA take pictures. Wow!
  4. Video surveillance from the gas station was collected 4 days after the fact. Local media had access before LE.
IMO & IIRC, that within the first 48 hours there was a bunch of "floundering" going on with the local LE. There were no reports that an area-wide search was performed for a possible suspect.


BBM. This one is going to be a straight field day for any defense attorney, any evidence retrieved from the vehicle is going to have to be dismissed. Those photos alone prove evidence tampering a possibility. How do you know Mr. prosecuting DA, that that particular widget wasn't disturbed when the vehicle was left unattended at M&M? How do you know the driver didn't stop elsewhere? smdh
 
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[...] I have a specific timeline to add to your broad timeline:
December 6, 2014
5:25pm: Jessica arrived at M&M, exits car, walks out of the frame of the video, then
5:27pm: Jessica enters store (M&M); exits store @ 5:28pm
5:29pm: Jessica pumps gas
5:32pm: Jessica leaves M&M
6:48pm: Jessica's mom has phone conversation with Jessica
8:13pm: Jessica discovered
I'll work on a timeline for the investigation when time permits :yourock:

You have accepted the timeline to begin 1 hour earlier than generally accepted by the confirmed footage timeline of the CCTV video. Why is this? Do you believe that there is adequate reason to accept Ali Alsanai's statement that the gas station video time footage was NOT altered for Daylight Savings?

If you do, what reliable confirmation do you have of this?
 
Was the station wagon parked on the front right of the vid?
If so, I saw someone or something...clear as mud right?

I tried really hard. At one point the video is fuzzy because of the play back, so you think there's somebody moving between the cars, but it's just rewind blur. With many many screen shots, the only reflections in the station wagon from the WMCAction news videos were of when the lady comes back from the store and is back in the car. I focused on catching any movement in the car at all when the driver and passenger were not there, but there is none, in many many moment by moment screen shots. The driver, I've been informed is the talkative man in the store who eventually returns and is seen getting back in the car. Here are some grabs
Screen shot of white station wagon parked near store driving in.jpg as white station wagon drives in
Driver gets out of station wagon, a male maybe.jpg driver gets out
Lady passenger gets out goes into store.jpg Lady with long hair seen in store video, gets out of white station wagon
Screenshot 2014-12-31 at 7.37.54 PM.jpg Lady gets back into passenger seat, as gas jug guy walks away. Reflection in the car are after she gets back in from her movements, it looks like to me.
 
I tried really hard. At one point the video is fuzzy because of the play back, so you think there's somebody moving between the cars, but it's just rewind blur. With many many screen shots, the only reflections in the station wagon from the WMCAction news videos were of when the lady comes back from the store and is back in the car. I'm not sure where the driver went or when he returned yet, but here's some are some grabs
View attachment 66541 as white station wagon drives in
View attachment 66542 driver gets out
View attachment 66543 Lady with long hair seen in store video, gets out of white station wagon
View attachment 66544 Lady gets back into passenger seat, as gas jug guy walks away. Reflection in the car are after she gets back in from her movements in looks like to me.

dang YOU are GREAT!!!!

you are right...... i think my IMagination got the best of me. lol:blushing:
 

I get the impression from Ben Chambers' comments the person of most interest is the one off-camera that Jessica spoke to before leaving. Some are leaping to conclusion that there was only one party that night but it is entirely possible that she was invited to a gathering where food was being served and that's why she told mom she intended to wash the car and to go eat. I think where she went after that is what remains unknown.
 
I'm On my way! to edit that right now...I had too many things going on and got the times wrong. My bad!!! Thank you for catching this for me! To answer your question, no, I don't believe anything AA said one way or another, as he has contradicted himself on camera more times than I can count.

You have accepted the timeline to begin 1 hour earlier than generally accepted by the confirmed footage timeline of the CCTV video. Why is this? Do you believe that there is adequate reason to accept Ali Alsanai's statement that the gas station video time footage was NOT altered for Daylight Savings?

If you do, what reliable confirmation to you have of this?
 
I posted this in the wrong place and can't delete ugh... still trying to edit my previous screw up with the timeline guys. So sorry for the confusion.
 
I get the impression from Ben Chambers' comments the person of most interest is the one off-camera that Jessica spoke to before leaving. Some are leaping to conclusion that there was only one party that night but it is entirely possible that she was invited to a gathering where food was being served and that's why she told mom she intended to wash the car and to go eat. I think where she went after that is what remains unknown.

Aha, makes perfect sense.
 
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