Mystery couple murdered in South Carolina, 1976 - #6

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  1. Sweetluv

    Sweetluv Well-Known Member

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    Anniversary of their death! Rest in peace.....I hope and pray you both will be identified! We are trying!!!
     
  2. Triss

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    Gone but not forgotten. We will bring them home.
     
  3. Isabelle98

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    43 years without justice...so sad...
    RIP
     
  4. MadMcGoo

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    Does anyone know, Carl possibly, if the shirt he was wearing was absolutely POSITIVELY red???

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  5. CCJD

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    That's what NamUs says:
    red T-shirt Shirt read "Coors: America's Light Beer" on the front and "Camel Challenger G-T Sebring '75" on the back along with a Snoopy design
     
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  6. Bit of hope

    Bit of hope Have a nice day!

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    Is there any reason you would doubt that? In other words; is there a certain reason you ask this?
     
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    Yes! Actually, there is! I’ve come across a photo that I truly believe to be both “Jock” (and considering the research I’ve done, I am confident that is a nickname and nothing more) and a still missing person from the US!
     
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    Bit of hope Have a nice day!

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    Getting to know you a tiny, little bit, I thought so :) Interesting, are you willing to share more?
     
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    I have spent an embarrassing amount of time reading over EVERY single word written about these two (TWICE), since I *ETA-a spelling correction* saw this photo, and at this point there’s not much that will convince me I’m wrong! (says every wrong person in the world.... ever.) I created an account on ancestry.com less than 2 weeks ago and I’ve completed enough of a ‘tree’ to know, with a very reasonable amount of certainty, that the missing person(s) is/are “Jock”/Jane Doe!

    If I am wrong, I will choke on these words and probably not be seen on WSs for quite awhile!!

    But, yes, I will share a tiny bit more....

    •MMcG•
     

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    I think I've had this conversation before but I can't remember if it was here or somewhere else. The snoopy design is most likely not snoopy but Camel Joe. They're calling it a design so I'm assuming it's an outline or shadow figure. I could be wrong but why would snoopy be on a IMSA racing shirt?



    I can't tell much from this picture other than it's a Coors shirt but if you feel this strongly about what you've found then definitely follow through with it. I hope you can share more later.
     
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  11. Bit of hope

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    Something like this? Right up corner.
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. MadMcGoo

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    I was JUST typing a reply...a better explanation! But you are absolutely correct! It is not a Snoopy! It is Mr. Camel! I suppose I can see how someone would confuse the two.

    I know that every article describes the shirt as red, but even looking at the one crime scene photo, it doesn’t look red to me. Maybe a very faded red, but red appears pretty dark in black and white photos!
    Every article also states that the shirt reads (front) “COORS — America’s Light Beer”
    (back) “Camel Challenger GT - Sebring ‘75”
    but it’s actually “LITE” and “CHALLENGE”. Unless he bought a knockoff memorabilia T-Shirt...

    -continuing with my novel...
     
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    YES! Exactly that!
     
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  14. Bit of hope

    Bit of hope Have a nice day!

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    I really like your persistence. I have the tendency to wait and see if DNA project has picked up a case. And move on with unidentified cases that have not this much of exposure. Everybody has to do what he/she thinks is right, spending time on.
     
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  15. Bit of hope

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    It's obvious the black and white picture of the crime scene is discolored. She was wearing a blue denim cut-off shorts (Daisy Dukes). Looks pink in the picture...almost the same color as his shirt. Red discoloration, red-filter-like. Sorry guys...here is just the photo of the crime scene....it's everywhere, so for the record Warning!!!

    [​IMG]
     
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    To be honest, I never intended to get this far into it! I only came across these two a short while before I leaped into genealogy research. I happened to be researching a missing couple and decided I’d attempt to find answers in their case. Call it what you will, but the stars seemed to align for the missing couple and this pair of Does! I’ve always looked into the cases I was drawn to and never, before now, paid attention to whether or not they were being investigated extensively or not. As a matter of fact, a case I’m very close to (several actually) are among the pending cases in DDP’s site! Just a few days ago I spoke and corresponded about a case with the very agency who is handling Diane Jackson’s (Orange Socks) case! I couldn’t have known then that she had been identified and their department has to be bombarded with calls and requests about her case. But they were still very grateful and receptive towards the information I gave them! I think even the best of the best, operating with all the finest tools and equipment, can always benefit from the tiniest of clues or information! :)

    •MMcG•
     
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    Since someone won’t allow me to finish my reply...here is one of the things I’ve been working on...It’s not nearly complete but I’ve started a map of locations (both for the missing couple and the Does) so you can get an idea of where I’m going with everything... there are a few links and some information that I think tie the two together...
    If you are able to edit the map, go ahead. If not... sorry! I can’t even remember my color coding system right now!

    I’ve also included some other photos. A few of Ms Linda Lee Levell and Stephen Locke Packard. I threw in a few from “Expo 74” (The 1974 World Expo/Fair in Spokane Washington). There are links to a Native American/Southwestern jeweler located in Gallup, NM. (Also the location of one of the Grant’s Truck & Car Stop”s back then) They were founded in 1974 and I’ve emailed the company to find out if anyone employed there now would be able to tell me if Jane’s rings were sold by them during that time. Waiting on a response. I’ve also been in contact with a Spokane local to find out if anyone may have additional photos from the World Expo...

    ETA: forgot link as usual...
    20 Jun 1984 map
     

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    It didn’t attach a few for some reason... I had to zoom in on this one
     

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  19. Bit of hope

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    Wow MadMCGoo I never saw this pictures of Linda Lee Levell. I only knew about this one.
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    Also this is very interesting. More insight in this couples missing case. Linda Lovell and Stephen Packard
     
  20. Magnum P.E.

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    Linda Lovell has DNA available. Stephen Packard does not. I’d call it in, but I’m in doubt on this one. They don’t look alike, especially Stephen and “Jock”. Stephen is 3” taller and 30 pounds heavier. He looks like the Incredible Hulk in one pic, compared to “Jock”, who was a stringbean. Still, we don’t know until we know.
     
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    Linda Lovell has DNA available. Stephen Packard does not. I’d call it in, but I’m in doubt on this one. They don’t look alike, especially Stephen and “Jock”. Stephen is 3” taller and 30 pounds heavier. He looks like the Incredible Hulk in one pic, compared to “Jock”, who was a stringbean. Still, we don’t know until we know.
     
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